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Dave's Newest bulk into cut for show. AAS, SLIN and GH

hurdlemaker said:
Yes!!! To all of this. These prohormone "gurus" just make me shake my head. "Take all three of these prohormones and cycle assist and 2 over the counter "pct" products and get swole!" Fckn garbage. Find some gear, grow and put a pic of yourself in your fckn avatar instead of some bull**** off google like CSA said. "I've taken epistane and halodrol and I'm up to 170 and inclining the 80lb dbs" give me a break. I won't take a PH if I was given one, sealed, lol
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Lol after reading this immediately changed avatar to a pic of myself instead of Flex Lewis.
 
I went to a supplement store locally to buy protein. They have some great deals. BUT they obviously notice I am not little. They start pitching prohormone sh*t trying to sell me some stuff. I was polite because I like the dude that works there. But this persistent mutha fuker was telling me to take this and that with this support and his "great" pct. Then tells me its JUST what I need to be ready to walk on stage. I lost my **** and told him to shut his fukin mouth and if his little ass tells ME what to take again I would feed him his pills... all of em. He looked at me dumbfounded with his tic-tac dik suckin mouth open. I then told him if he shows me vials of GH, Tren and a jug of test we can talk business but if not ring up my fukin protein. Haha the people (a few little guys) in line looked at me with evil eyes as they bought thier Ronnie Coleman and muscle tech supps. Needless to say I don't like PHs

Oh yeah.. I ain't changing my avatar. There's plenty pics of me in this forum
 
DangerDave said:
I went to a supplement store locally to buy protein. They have some great deals. BUT they obviously notice I am not little. They start pitching prohormone sh*t trying to sell me some stuff. I was polite because I like the dude that works there. But this persistent mutha fuker was telling me to take this and that with this support and his "great" pct. Then tells me its JUST what I need to be ready to walk on stage. I lost my **** and told him to shut his fukin mouth and if his little ass tells ME what to take again I would feed him his pills... all of em. He looked at me dumbfounded with his tic-tac dik suckin mouth open. I then told him if he shows me viaks of GH?, Tren and a jug of test we can talk business but if not ring up my fukin protein. Haha the people (a few little guys) in line looked at me with evil eyes as they bought thier Ronnie Coleman and muscle tech supps. Needless to say I don't like PHs

Oh yeah.. I ain't changing my avatar. There's plenty pics of me in this forum
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Haha dude no lie I went in to buy protein once and the salesman was pushing some supplement with "GH" in the name as real growth hormone to some middle aged dude saying it was just what he needed at his age. The old dude was eating it up too. So excited he was getting legit GH...I just shook my head and walked away. Fukin crazy what they'll try to push on some guys
 
DangerDave said:
I went to a supplement store locally to buy protein. They have some great deals. BUT they obviously notice I am not little. They start pitching prohormone sh*t trying to sell me some stuff. I was polite because I like the dude that works there. But this persistent mutha fuker was telling me to take this and that with this support and his "great" pct. Then tells me its JUST what I need to be ready to walk on stage. I lost my **** and told him to shut his fukin mouth and if his little ass tells ME what to take again I would feed him his pills... all of em. He looked at me dumbfounded with his tic-tac dik suckin mouth open. I then told him if he shows me viaks of GH?, Tren and a jug of test we can talk business but if not ring up my fukin protein. Haha the people (a few little guys) in line looked at me with evil eyes as they bought thier Ronnie Coleman and muscle tech supps. Needless to say I don't like PHs Oh yeah.. I ain't changing my avatar. There's plenty pics of me in this forum
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lmfao, I can't believe the person actually tried to sell u that ****, I haven't had that happen to me before. Idk if I'd get mad or start laughing. I think I've seen enough to know you're not a scrawny b!tch haha
 
There's very little that goes from moderately entertaining to murder scene faster then the dude at the supp shop who has no idea what a weight looks like let alone what is in any of the supps they sell. I make it a point to tell the sales dcks to leave me alone when they get even close. If my forearms are bigger then your thighs, you need to stay the fck out of the way and keep your mouth shut.
 
Hahahahahaha, super pro wasn't directed at u. Anyone that can hang in this thread can put up what ever pic they want. It's the dude who's been here for a few months with no pictures telling me hiw to run tren. I know better than to go to other sections cause all I do is get pissed, but there are tons of dudes who are cool and just need a little legit advise. My first cycle was helladrol and trenazone. 100-150 of hdrol over 6 weeks and 2-3ml of trenazone over 8 weeks. A dude on here who injected helped me set it up and taught me the first things I knew about hormone supplementation. I'm all about helping a dude with his first or second epi/tren cycle. But u try to help and these limp dick mouth breathing **** tards have to chime in with there sour cum stained breath and taint my ****ing researched information with some ****ed up **** they learned on the back of a holiday inn flyer.

And Dave I really think a 4 week cycle of protodick stacked with methylbuttgaper will get u ready for the stage.
 
csa2179 said:
And Dave I really think a 4 week cycle of protodick stacked with methylbuttgaper will get u ready for the stage.
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This would be my suggestion as well. You don't even need a pct with it either. Its what the pros use
 
I heard glutamine will really enhance my gains, but that it's kinda risky to stack with creatine....what do you guys think?? I don't wanna do anything dumb...
 
Hyde said:
I heard glutamine will really enhance my gains, but that it's kinda risky to stack with creatine....what do you guys think?? I don't wanna do anything dumb...
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Hey there's our other powerlifter! What are ur lifts at?
 
csa2179 said:
Hey there's our other powerlifter! What are ur lifts at?
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Sh!tty. Benched 300, Squat 465, Pulled 565 on that M1T, but it fell down a ways when I came off, especially squat for some reason. I'm bigger than ever tho, & down some bf. Squat 425 tonight in training, bench is prob 285-290 atm, & pulling 5-something any day of the wk. First meet ever on March 15th. 220 class - I'm not even gonna try to make 198, I'm a wk into Epi/Halo atm. Dimethazine & LMG w/ a TRT dose of 4dhea will come in 2-3 wks before the meet. Or that Halotestin, but I've got room to grow so prob gonna use DMZ.
 
Hyde said:
I heard glutamine will really enhance my gains, but that it's kinda risky to stack with creatine....what do you guys think?? I don't wanna do anything dumb...
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As long as it's cell tech creatine and BSN glutamine you should be fine, just make sure you run some arginine with it so you don't get shut down.
 
csa2179 said:
I love when the guys from the bull**** part of the site stumble it to this part. They post about serms, and cycle assist with there prohormones like they know everything. Worthless... I'm not against ph use but some of the dumb know it all ****s in the anabolic section should be shot in the ****ing head. You see I forget and sometimes try and help new guys out but everytime one of this dick bags has to chime in and act like I don't know anything and they know everything. Even though they have some picture they got off Google as ther icon. If ur going t give advice u should at least have some pictures of u and results in a log or ur avatar. Bitch ass loser giving out loser wrong advice. "U better take some cycle assist and use two serms for ur pct".. I run all kinds of **** and not once has cycle assist show to help on any of my bloods. And why the **** would some run running a non methyl pro hormon need to ****ing run nolva and clomid. I ****jng hate everything outside of the oldschool section. I wish there was a way to keep them out of here. We should all bash these dumb ****s anytime u see one of them in a log where actual work and gains are put in. ****ING LOSES
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it's this site bro. way too many pin shy, pro-hormone popping cross-fitting phags 'round here. (with the exception of this log and most of the stuff in the old school section)

that's why i normally frequent other forums that are more gear oriented.
 
Hyde said:
Sh!tty. Benched 300, Squat 465, Pulled 565 on that M1T, but it fell down a ways when I came off, especially squat for some reason. I'm bigger than ever tho, & down some bf. Squat 425 tonight in training, bench is prob 285-290 atm, & pulling 5-something any day of the wk. First meet ever on March 15th. 220 class - I'm not even gonna try to make 198, I'm a wk into Epi/Halo atm. Dimethazine & LMG w/ a TRT dose of 4dhea will come in 2-3 wks before the meet. Or that Halotestin, but I've got room to grow so prob gonna use DMZ.
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dude please don't run all that , u know I'm all about running crazy **** but dude that's going to fuxk up ur body. Just start pinning test. It will do more for u than all this crap and it's way healthier. U could use TNE pre workout and run a nice easy test cycle of 500mg per week. I'm serious, when ur stacking that many prohormones ur asking for bad ****.
 
Been awhile since I've posted on this forum. Your looking stacked dave! Keep it up and you'll kill it on stage!
 
csa2179 said:
dude please don't run all that , u know I'm all about running crazy **** but dude that's going to fuxk up ur body. Just start pinning test. It will do more for u than all this crap and it's way healthier. U could use TNE pre workout and run a nice easy test cycle of 500mg per week. I'm serious, when ur stacking that many prohormones ur asking for bad ****.
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Yeah I agree. Just run test and tren man. Save your liver!
 
Hyde said:
Sh!tty. Benched 300, Squat 465, Pulled 565 on that M1T, but it fell down a ways when I came off, especially squat for some reason. I'm bigger than ever tho, & down some bf. Squat 425 tonight in training, bench is prob 285-290 atm, & pulling 5-something any day of the wk. First meet ever on March 15th. 220 class - I'm not even gonna try to make 198, I'm a wk into Epi/Halo atm. Dimethazine & LMG w/ a TRT dose of 4dhea will come in 2-3 wks before the meet. Or that Halotestin, but I've got room to grow so prob gonna use DMZ.
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After all the PH bashing we've been doing I almost thought this was a joke
 
Hyde said:
Sh!tty. Benched 300, Squat 465, Pulled 565 on that M1T, but it fell down a ways when I came off, especially squat for some reason. I'm bigger than ever tho, & down some bf. Squat 425 tonight in training, bench is prob 285-290 atm, & pulling 5-something any day of the wk. First meet ever on March 15th. 220 class - I'm not even gonna try to make 198, I'm a wk into Epi/Halo atm. Dimethazine & LMG w/ a TRT dose of 4dhea will come in 2-3 wks before the meet. Or that Halotestin, but I've got room to grow so prob gonna use DMZ.
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One of these days Hyde your going to have to put your vag away and start pinning yourself. When you do you'll never go back to ph/ds. Ever.
 
Haha, just put the vag down, u can have it back when ur done.

I have nothing against ph/ds, they have there role. I just hate the ph/ds guru's
 
The only purpose for a PH is to pop your anabolic cherry, it's a good way to run something short and see how your body responds/practice PCT. My second cycle I went right to sticking needles up my butt, I mean in my butt...
 
Man its so true, 3 months on test was so much better than any PH alone. I did run a sd kicker and epi on the end but so much different than alone. It was like the best actual body composition changes I've ever seen in such a short period.
 
I admittedly took SuperDrol before test back way when it first came out, blew up in a few weeks, got off, lost most off it, got gyno after the fact, got some test, never looked back, people say they front their cycles with sd all the time and I just think "god u wish u had this oral turinabol"
 
hurdlemaker said:
I admittedly took SuperDrol before test back way when it first came out, blew up in a few weeks, got off, lost most off it, got gyno after the fact, got some test, never looked back, people say they front their cycles with sd all the time and I just think "god u wish u had this oral turinabol"
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I love SD. I have about 500 pharma grade pressed tabs and will be running them in the off season.
 
DangerDave said:
I love SD. I have about 500 pharma grade pressed tabs and will be running them in the off season.
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i loved it until it gave me nasty fckn gyno. It was cool in that I would take it and 5 days later my strength would just go through the roof like clock work. I'd be repping out another 20-30lbs on major lifts for the same reps. I can still get the original, just would rather take other stuff if I chose, like turinabol. How are u gonna run those tabs btw? After a month of SD my body would literally say to me "stop this ****" haha
 
hurdlemaker said:
i loved it until it gave me nasty fckn gyno. It was cool in that I would take it and 5 days later my strength would just go through the roof like clock work. I'd be repping out another 20-30lbs on major lifts for the same reps. I can still get the original, just would rather take other stuff if I chose, like turinabol. How are u gonna run those tabs btw? After a month of SD my body would literally say to me "stop this ****" haha
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I will pulse them in a bulk. 10Mg ed and 30mg lift days for 6 weeks. 6 Weeks on 8 off. So my blast of gear will only be 10 weeks and 6 of them are on SD 4 off plus my cruise which is 4 weeks. I will run 2 bulking blasts then a blast for lean bulking/weak points then start a cut for next show.
 
thyrod said:
Ph have there place. Such as if you where getting drug tested.
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I am military but they don't test for aas only street drugs. I take my chances. I don't know of any basic employers that test for gear. Maybe if you got some crazy dod contracting job but 90% of those guys are yoked as fuk
 
hurdlemaker said:
Yeah it's an expensive test and requires drawing blood. The old pee test is what most people get
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They can test for steroids out of urine. It takes 60ml of urine for a full panel at the facility at UCLA.
 
hurdlemaker said:
Really, so it's just the cost of the test that's the difference? I've never had to worry about being tested so haven't looked a lot into this
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It's about $200 vs $60.

We were piss tested for AAS in college but it was random athletes like 3 times a year, at $200 a pop that's a lot of an athletic budget to test everyone.
 
csa2179 said:
dude please don't run all that , u know I'm all about running crazy **** but dude that's going to fuxk up ur body. Just start pinning test. It will do more for u than all this crap and it's way healthier. U could use TNE pre workout and run a nice easy test cycle of 500mg per week. I'm serious, when ur stacking that many prohormones ur asking for bad ****.
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C'mon now, Chris - you know as well as I it's in the dosing (& the bloods) - I'm on 45mg epi/75mg halo atm, peeing crystal clear. Halo drops out mid wk 3-4, epi goes to 60mg wks 5&6, DMZ is a mild 30mg (more for recomp) & the LMG is 60mg - it's literally just enough to lube my joints since I'll be balls deep in epistane. You're looking at 60 Epistane/30 Dimeth as far as liver load, which for me is totally fine on 750mg TUDCA (so sayeth my bloodwork). The LMG & 4dhea are low doses, and there will be plenty of enzymes for decent conversion as epi & dmz are active already. The 4dhea is literally just for ~150mg/wk trt, as I'll be totally shutdown about the 3-4wk mark when I introduce it.

If I use the Fluoxymesterone, it will be in lieu of the DMZ & LMG, & it's only 20mg for brutal workouts - 40mg is your typical pre-contest for a bodybuilder for Pete's sake, & this is typically alongside winny or such.

DangerDave said:
Yeah I agree. Just run test and tren man. Save your liver!
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It's not that I don't think they'll work great - there's a reason all Pros inject. But I'm not ready to make the blast/cruise commitment, & I think if I go dark there's a decent chance that's where I'd put myself. My cycles never exceed 8wks atm; the longer I stay on the faster I'll be at a point where my HPTA isn't worth a f#ck on it's own & trt will be mandatory to keep gains. I know where my usage will go, but I'm not trying to accelerate that until I make that decision for myself.

hurdlemaker said:
After all the PH bashing we've been doing I almost thought this was a joke
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You seem like a nice guy, but I don't think you understand a lot of the ph/ds compounds. Take superdrol for example - you're touting how lame it is compared to turina, yet almost everyone else will verify sd is the superior compound (& much harsher). Your gyno was rebound - SD on no test is gonna have your estro very low once it suppresses you, & boy is it gonna fly back when your body is trying to reach homeostasis. Not everybody is in a family/job situation to do this the illegal way - you mentioned your hotass gf even is against you pinning. Injectables, assuming you can get a non-contaminated non-bunk source, will always be superior to orals. But people have their reasons, & they're not always because they're uneducated.

Lukef2000 said:
One of these days Hyde your going to have to put your vag away and start pinning yourself. When you do you'll never go back to ph/ds. Ever.
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That's what I'm afraid of lol
 
thyrod said:
Ph have there place. Such as if you where getting drug tested.
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FWIW, most tests read any exogenous androgen as test for purposes of detecting elevated levels for a doping test. So even something like methylstenbolone is gonna cause you to pop positive.
 
Hyde said:
FWIW, most tests read any exogenous androgen as test for purposes of detecting elevated levels for a doping test. So even something like methylstenbolone is gonna cause you to pop positive.
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This is true. Most of the PH are converted into compounds that can be tested for. Either way I don't worry about tests. As long as you don't act a fool ain't nobody gunna care if you are on gear.


Oh my god!... that military guy is stronger, faster, aggressive and better than everone else, we don't like that he's on steroids. Said no officer ever.
 
An aggressive arrogant marine that spends a lot of time in the gym? Nah never heard of that. LMAO.
 
It should be legal for military to be on gear. Who doesn't want stronger, faster, more aggressive , basically fearless soldiers? Wars aren't won by scrawny dudes with no balls, they're won by bold ass mofos with big diks and very small balls ha
 
booneman77 said:
It should be legal for military to be on gear. Who doesn't want stronger, faster, more aggressive , basically fearless soldiers? Wars aren't won by scrawny dudes with no balls, they're won by bold ass mofos with big diks and very small balls ha
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Yes and no. I have never met so many idiots until I joined. I don't want these morons on gear. Yes they fight wars exceptionally... but being good people? Yeah they struggle haha. But it goes the other way too. I have met some of the most amazing and brave people I will ever meet in the military.
 
Hyde said:
You seem like a nice guy, but I don't think you understand a lot of the ph/ds compounds. Take superdrol for example - you're touting how lame it is compared to turina, yet almost everyone else will verify sd is the superior compound (& much harsher). Your gyno was rebound - SD on no test is gonna have your estro very low once it suppresses you, & boy is it gonna fly back when your body is trying to reach homeostasis. Not everybody is in a family/job situation to do this the illegal way - you mentioned your hotass gf even is against you pinning. Injectables, assuming you can get a non-contaminated non-bunk source, will always be superior to orals. But people have their reasons, & they're not always because they're uneducated. That's what I'm afraid of lol
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Yeah I've tried a few other ph's back in the day, epistane was one, and I do understand having to go the legal route. I wasn't trying to come off as a dick, more ball busting and it was funny that everyone was dissing the ph's and then u threw out your PH cycle, and def didn't mean to make you feel like I think you're uneducated, u def know your stuff with the PH's. More funny timing than anything. I messed with the idea of the ph's for a while but I had access to gear and didn't have any reason not to, my gf at that time is actually the one that got me to do my first cycle lol. My gf now a days views ph the same as gear. She's pretty smart with a lot of that. Glad to see you stay up to date with your blood work also, not many guys bother.
 
hurdlemaker said:
Yeah I've tried a few other ph's back in the day, epistane was one, and I do understand having to go the legal route. I wasn't trying to come off as a dick, more ball busting and it was funny that everyone was dissing the ph's and then u threw out your PH cycle, and def didn't mean to make you feel like I think you're uneducated, u def know your stuff with the PH's. More funny timing than anything. I messed with the idea of the ph's for a while but I had access to gear and didn't have any reason not to, my gf at that time is actually the one that got me to do my first cycle lol. My gf now a days views ph the same as gear. She's pretty smart with a lot of that. Glad to see you stay up to date with your blood work also, not many guys bother.
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I can see where you're coming from - staying oral/transdermal-only is def taking the high road to get to the same place, slower. Your gf is right - plenty of "prohormones" are active steroids, just like dbol, winny, abombs, etc, & even some of the true prohormones are still very potent - the head Finaflex rep cut to sub 3% bf on Trendione (& Epi) last summer and took 5th in a 175 class gunning for his Pro card (and he cut to that class last minute & came in flat as a pancake even). He's never ran an inject cycle (although he will soon), & you'd NEVER mistake him for natty lol. Dude's pretty big & lean.
 
Don't get me wrong folks, I'm all about needle over ph's. But in the future I might have to get on the ph train for my future career
 
False! My previous employer had two daughters in highschool, one was a huge Robert Patinson fan, for her 16th bday one of the girls at work (without me or my boss knowing) had a pic of me with my shirt off blown up into poster size and gave it to her for her bday. Well my boss said he went home and went into her room and she had taken the Rob P poster she had hanging above her bed down and put me up, lol, I didn't know what to say, I had to turn and walk
 
hurdlemaker said:
False! My previous employer had two daughters in highschool, one was a huge Robert Patinson fan, for her 16th bday one of the girls at work (without me or my boss knowing) had a pic of me with my shirt off blown up into poster size and gave it to her for her bday. Well my boss said he went home and went into her room and she had taken the Rob P poster she had hanging above her bed down and put me up, lol, I didn't know what to say, I had to turn and walk
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Haha that's a little bit weird. Guess you should be honored though
 
thyrod said:
Haha that's a little bit weird. Guess you should be honored though
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It was def a little awkward. I had a great relationship with my boss tho. I went up to him a little later and said "sorry, I didn't know that was happening" and he replied "it's ok, I'd rather it be you than that douche" haha
 
hurdlemaker said:
It was def a little awkward. I had a great relationship with my boss tho. I went up to him a little later and said "sorry, I didn't know that was happening" and he replied "it's ok, I'd rather it be you than that douche" haha
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That's pretty legit man
 
DangerDave said:
I love SD. I have about 500 pharma grade pressed tabs and will be running them in the off season.
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man, that's probably the only PH i'd ever take and i'd never run it without other real gearz.

i've still got a gram of raw SD in the stash.
 
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