JoeBrooklyn
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No. You asked if things were better. I think things are better right now than EVER before. More people have more rights. Global poverty is down. People are living longer than ever. I'll take 2014 over 1914 any day of the week. You seemed to be suggesting it is horrible right now. It's not. Everyone wants you to think it is. It's BETTER than at any other time ever. Remember we have access to more information than ever. That is good AND bad. Both the left and the right will tell you everything is horrible because of the other guy. You can choose to believe it and continue the cycle or you can realize the obvious. Some Democrats are freaking horrible people and so are some Republicans. Both sides have created a lot of bad things when in power. Neither side is faultless. Why would you think Republicans are fiscally conservative? When did that happen? Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt. George W. Bush exploded the size of the federal government in many different ways. Seems like someone has been telling you some things that aren't true again. If Democrats are fiscal alcoholics who have ten drinks while in charge Republicans at best can say "hey we only have 9!" I'm not going to get into all the flaws of a two party system, but both sides get elected by convincing you the other side is awful. Don't fall into the trap. Don't be a victim of confirmation bias. It's a huge issue we face. Democrats and Republicans confirm everything they want to confirm by only reading and listening to people who tell them what they want to hear. I don't want to turn this into a political debate, but like I said SOMEONE is telling you some stuff that may not be true. You're free to believe it if you like. I don't want to argue politics right now, but before you jump in with Obama this and Obama that please keep in mind I am neither Democrat nor Republican. Why would my brother being able to marry put the economy in the crapper? How does that have any effect on it? Why did all these economic bad times happen before if gays weren't allowed to marry? By your logic the economy should always be flying high as long as gays can't marry and once they do the economy dies immediately. That seems pretty ludicrous to propose and at best ignores all previous history ever. Your housing argument doesn't make any sense because you aren't even thinking of inflation. I can go get a job at McDonald's right now for 7.25. In two hour that is 14.50 (yeah, taxes, but let's play). My Dad in 1967 worked 12 hours a day in the summer for a farmer. His wages? 1 dollar an hour. I can make MORE right now in two hours than my Dad made that summer in 12. Comparing old prices to current prices doesn't get you anywhere.
Reagan trilled the national debt? Please explain to me how he did that. Was he king? Did he have a Republican Congress that went along with his budgets? Answer those questions first. On Bush, yes you are right and thats one if the reasons i left the Republican party.
As for your fathers one dollar an hour versus 7.35, YOU are leaving out inflation. That 7.35 is not worth the same. The dollar even when accounting for inflation doesn't have the same spending power that it had back then.
And no Im not suggesting that homosexuality is the cause for fiscal irresponsibility Im saying that moral decay seems to go hand in hand with fiscal irresponsibility.
Im no longer for the 2 party system either. I want a more libertarian government but we are called "extremists".
And again, no one is lying to me, its what I see and hear from the left that makes me come to my conclusions about them.