Ok, let me rephrase. I believe, based on my observation that repulsion is normal and you are born with it; but outside of that, I cannot prove it. You believe that people are born homosexual based on your observation but you cant prove that. So we differ and thats where tolerance comes in. As the other guy said, this post has become more and more about bashing Christians than anything else (you excluded). I haven't seen any love of tolerance from your side who claim to be for love and tolerance.
Society does change but it doesn't always change for the better. We have more out of birth children being born now, is that better? We run trillion dollar deficits, is that better? Society evolves or it dies. When it begins to accept things that are detrimental to it, it collapses.
The same people who are so pro homosexual also happen to be pro trillion dollar deficits, pro bigger government, pro open boarders pro Sharia Law even!! If your side wins, the secularists will not take over. The Islamists or Satist will and when they do homosexuals and hetrosexuals will not be in a better society they will be in a worse one. Be careful what you wish for.
No offense, but someone is telling you something that isn't true. First off almost everyone in this thread isn't pro homosexual. They are pro equality. I have no idea if a single gay person exists in this thread.
I am NOT pro homosexual. I am NOT pro heterosexual. I am equal rights. I happen to BE heterosexual and say homosexuals should have the same rights as me. I do not have a tattoo. I do not want a tattoo. I would be really mad if people said those with tattoo's can't vote. Tattooed people can't marry. And yet tattoos have changed on how many we have and how society views them. Is this REALLY bad? If you have a tatoo is it hurting me in any way? I don't want one and guess what I don't have to have one. Same with homosexuality. The biggest myth in this thread is that people want you to be gay. I KNOW gay people. That isn't what they want. I know people with tattoos, they don't tell me "Geoforce, you better get a tatoo!" All gay people want (and the straight people who love them) is equality.
Is Society better now or in 1776? I say now. In 1776 the internet and this discussion did not exist. If you are black you can't vote. If you are female you can't vote. We didn't have toilets. We didn't have microwaves. The thing about the good old days? THEY WEREN'T THAT GOOD. Was society better in the great depression or right now? Go back and read stories of the Depression. I will argue with you for days how much more people have now than then. For the most part all the people who say they wish they could go back really don't wish they could go back. If you want to go back in time start by getting rid of this internet, your car, electricity, women's rights, blacks and whites in school together, etc. I bet you'd rather live in 2014 than 1914.
If my side wins? You just said my side supports a bunch of stuff I don't support. You have NO IDEA what I support (libertarian by the way) and yet you just said I must be for trillion dollar deficits, bigger government, and a whole host of other crap I don't believe in. Someone is telling you to be scared of people like me. Someone is filling your head with a bunch of lies and you happen to believe them. What does Islam or Sharia Law have to do with anything I've said? Nothing. And yet you're in full fear because of the books you've read or the news you've watched.
Joe FEAR sells. It always will. FEAR is why Glenn Beck has money. The right has fear mongers and so does the left. Optimism doesn't sell. Me telling you things are good doesn't sell. No one wants to hear things are good. No one wants to watch a positive movie. We want scary. We always have. I'm a student of history and I'm telling you that you probably don't understand the past that well.
As for big government is government telling people what they cannot do big government? I think so. Isn't government telling a privately ran church that they cannot marry a gay person big government? Why do you support big government actions and then fear big government actions?
Out of wedlock children is another REALLY weird thing to bring up in a thread about gays. Why don't we blame a heterosexual like me for that since heterosexuals are the ones who can produce babies. I have no idea what sense that even made to bring up. The divorce rate is much higher now than 40 years ago. That's because of STRAIGHT people. It seems like we are trying to blame gays for everything. It was super cold on Wednesday and Thursday here. If no one was gay would it have been warm?
