Low doses of steroids?

cory0475

cory0475

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I was doing some research on how much testosterone the human body produces and I found on medical website that a young male produces 6-7mg of testosterone per day. Or 42-49mg per week. So to just double you test. Levels can't you just take 84-98mg a week instead of super high doses like 500-600mg. Why do people recommended larger doses like those to start.
 
Because sides are manageable and it produces more gains. And you're suppressing your natural T anyways.

That and you aren't really accounting for ester weight.
 
1,000mg =1g

6-7g/day = 6,000mg-7,000mg/day.

I think you mis understood something.

42mg/day would equal 294mg/week

49mg/day = 343mg/week.

That sounds better, but still high, maybe your reading teens early 20's?
 
jbryand101b said:
Maybe your reading for a woman? 42mg-49mg/week is like nothing
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nope thats for a male... teens go about 9-10 and you drop to about 6-7mg a day after time. ill post up links to studies
 
jbryand101b said:
Maybe your reading for a woman? 42mg-49mg/week is like nothing
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copy that link bro then open the file to read a medical journal. .org and used at my moms college (found it in her special student library that has tonsss of studies) we produced average 8mg a day as a male
 
cory0475 said:
So then why are doses so high. For example 500mg a weekx so around 71.5mg per day
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because our bodies can handle it? haha i mean lets say with 500mg you gain 20lbs and on 150mg a day you only gain 5lbs whats better ;)
 
cory0475 said:
No I just checked woman to and that is at 0.5 mg per day. Compared to 6-7mg per day
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i hope youre no thinking of use bro youre to small just EAT! better and cheaper anabolic is meat and carbs
 
I don't remember entering 160 into my profile but what ever. In 02/13 is around 175-180ish So 30lb. For a somewhat beginner that not to fast. I'm 100% natural right now. I was just was thinking about how much the body produced and saw 49mg a week and thought that was strange because I know most people take around 500mg per day. That's all.
 
PumpHouse said:
If I could gain 50 lbs in a year, I def wouldn't be considering AAS.

I'm not attacking the OP. I was just answering his questions.
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hey i was 140 back in dec2012 and got to 200 in 2013 dec. alllllll natty! but gained some chub
 
cory0475 said:
I don't remember entering 160 into my profile but what ever. In 02/13 is around 175-180ish So 30lb. For a somewhat beginner that not to fast. I'm 100% natural right now. I was just was thinking about how much the body produced and saw 49mg a week and thought that was strange because I know most people take around 500mg per day. That's all.
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Yeah like i said. I'm not trying to attack you, although it comes off that way on forums sometimes.

For one I'm assuming 49 is an average, not the top end. That and nobody is suggesting beginners take 500 mgs of test suspension. So the ester weight comes into play. Also 500 mgs of test produces very few sides as is, YMMV so if you can make double the gains with a tiny manageable amount of added sides why not go to 500 mgs?
 
if a typical trt dosage is 200mg every 2 weeks (so theoretically 100mg/week) then they are giving guys way more than they need.

edit, forgot to take into account the ester.

100mg of test cyp prob has about 55 or so mg of actual testosterone.
 
jbryand101b said:
if a typical trt dosage is 200mg every 2 weeks (so theoretically 100mg/week) then they are giving guys way more than they need.

im producing 42-45mg per week but go on trt an get 100mg/week, well, that'd be supraphysiological. they must have it all wrong!
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think about it 8-10is the study thats well used x7 you get 56-70 right well 100mg a week is about 80 after the ester or whatever youd call it lol. so it keeps you high end. sounds crazy but i just asked a buddy who teaches health and kinesology at Oregon state.
 
jbryand101b said:
if a typical trt dosage is 200mg every 2 weeks (so theoretically 100mg/week) then they are giving guys way more than they need.

im producing 42-45mg per week but go on trt an get 100mg/week, well, that'd be supraphysiological. they must have it all wrong!
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I just want to know were either my logic went wrong or if not all of the injected test. is used.
 
cory0475 said:
PumpHouse your fine. It Perkins that being a pain in the A**
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hey bud i was helping ya. you got butt hurt over me telling you youre too small to cycle....
 
Mperkins said:
think about it 8-10is the study thats well used x7 you get 56-70 right well 100mg a week is about 80 after the ester or whatever youd call it lol. so it keeps you high end. sounds crazy but i just asked a buddy who teaches health and kinesology at Oregon state.
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Then why don't people just take 200 a week for a starting to double test levels?
 
cory0475 said:
Then why don't people just take 200 a week for a starting to double test levels?
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because why shut your **** down for mini gains??? you want build up? take some dbol or inject prop or take SD i can name a ton of things...
 
I feel amazing on 500mg split up 2 shots per week of test e! I think it would suck to use less.

I've dropped my test dosage down to 375/week now to add in mast prop @ 400mg/week
 
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to lighten the mood ;)
 
jbryand101b said:
I feel amazing on 500mg split up 2 shots per week of test e! I think it would suck to use less.

I've dropped my test dosage down to 375/week now to add in mast prop @ 400mg/week
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auahaudhfiudf youre killling me! i cant wait to pin for the first time after i compete in this comp f*ckkkkkkkkk. i heard how you feel is like a god
 
PumpHouse said:
You even bothering with an AI?
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nope. I have it, just in case, cause im also running 120mg e/d of trenadione, but I'm hoping the masteron will take care of those needs.

I'll also be running epi as the esters clear my system.

and then undergo the task of (trying to) not get soft during pct.
 
cory0475 said:
Then why don't people just take 200 a week for a starting to double test levels?
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Because of the ester half-life I believe. 200mg isn't delivering that in a week. Depending on the ester (prop/E/cyp) then you'll lose a percentage of that due to the ester weight. Prop has a shorter half-life of 4.5days, and E is about 11 days I think.

So, ignoring ester weight, if you shot 200mg of test with prop ester, after 4.5 days only 100mg would have been released into your system. After another 4.5 days, another 25mg will have been released, and so on. If you are taking E, after 11 days only 100mg would have been released into your system. Which is less than 10mg per day. The following 11 days, it's 50mg, which is less than 5mg per day. Bearing in mind your natural production will be shut down, you're now lower than when you started.

Cumulative effects of esters over a cycle stack on top of themselves, but 200mg per week of testosterone (ignoring the ester) isn't a lot when you look at it this way (albeit after your second shot of E your then releasing 100mg over 11 days from this shot, and 50mg over 11 days from your precious shot - cumulative effects...).
 
RH2012 said:
a typical trt dose would be 200mg of test E per week. subtract the ester weight and consider the HALF-life, you are getting about the same amount as produced naturally for someone at the higher end of the normal range. so to double it you'll need 400mg of test E per week. these are just ballpark figures.
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This is not a typical TRT dose. Typical would be 100-125mgs a week, higher if non-responder. 200mg a week is borderline low-dose cycle.
 
My Dr had me on 250 a week :) t level came back at 1860. He cut me down to 200 a week. Jerk :)
 
cory0475 said:
Then why don't people just take 200 a week for a starting to double test levels?
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Well a lot of people do 200-250mg for their first cycle. And a lot do see good result with such dose even after several cycles. But unfortunately nowadays people want always more, and think that anything lower than 500mg is useless. Which is really not the case. Specially for novices.
 
jbryand101b said:
I feel amazing on 500mg split up 2 shots per week of test e! I think it would suck to use less. I've dropped my test dosage down to 375/week now to add in mast prop @ 400mg/week
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how long were you running Test E before you dropped down to add mast prop?
 
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