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smoker145 said:
Since when does trying to conver things up become more games? Melky got 50 games still for crafting a fake website to cover his tracks. No additional games were added.
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Ever heard of obstruction?

Nobody is saying Bosch is completely telling the truth. Don't straw man this to strengthen your argent. The MLBPA had already said they're done defending the case. If it goes to federal court, he's on his own.
 
Rodja said:
Ever heard of obstruction? Nobody is saying Bosch is completely telling the truth. Don't straw man this to strengthen your argent. The MLBPA had already said they're done defending the case. If it goes to federal court, he's on his own.
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Melky didn't obstruct the investigation? He certainly did. He should have gotten games if arod got games a few years later.

Bottom line is, I don't think he deserved it that severe. I think they were just trying to make an example of him.

I'm also clearly not defending him since I'm a Yankee fan. It actually benefits the yanks he's suspended.
 
smoker145 said:
Melky didn't obstruct the investigation? He certainly did. He should have gotten games if arod got games a few years later.

Bottom line is, I don't think he deserved it that severe. I think they were just trying to make an example of him.

I'm also clearly not defending him since I'm a Yankee fan. It actually benefits the yanks he's suspended.
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Bringing Melky into this is just silly; he's not nearly the name and didn't put up this ridiculous stance that he's the victim. They're clearly making an example of A-Rod and it's not just because he's a big name. It's because of the manner in which he has not only cheated the system (again) in addition to all of the backroom stuff that also went on as a result.
 
The name thing shouldn't matter. He did try and fool mlb. But I understand where your coming from.
 
Just feeling pretty pleased with 215x5. I think 250 is a certain possibility. This was technically my 3 week for bench. Not sure if ill max next week, cause I want someone with me. Well see
 
Never realized how Big Ben Johnson was . Dude was a tank lol

No wonder Carl Lewis was pissed
 
smoker145 said:
Never realized how Big Ben Johnson was . Dude was a tank lol

No wonder Carl Lewis was pissed
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Carl Lewis is a hatin-ass püssy. And he tested positive in the U.S. Olympic trials himself.
 
herderdude said:
Carl Lewis is a hatin-ass püssy. And he tested positive in the U.S. Olympic trials himself.
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It was over turned. I think that's bs. Almost everyone of those runners in that race test positive later in the careers and get banned
 
"It's a level playing field, it's just not the playing field the public thinks it is." -Victor Conte
 
285x4
295x5
315x2
315x1 just to do one with better form

Not pleased. Not leading with chest, back founded a little. Just one of them grind days where you just want to go home before you even step in the gym.
Bb shrugs 145x12
195x11... Wtf
X8 mutha f...
X9
Lat pull down 130x5 wide grip handle thing.. Didn't feel good. Moving on

Bw chin-up 3x5
Leg raise 3x10

All over the place today. Meh workout. I was due for one so it's whatever. Ohp Friday
 
Honestly, just want them big traps. Traps are getting bigger, so I think it's working
 
Chin-ups will be 3x a week now. Embarrassed that's all I could muster was 5 reps. Should build my back up too.
 
In my opinion if you are set on them there is time, but shouldn't take place over compound barbell movements. For example, superset with another movement on the back end, or on a weak point day. Just my two cents.

You owe me two cents.
 
rob112 said:
In my opinion if you are set on them there is time, but shouldn't take place over compound barbell movements. For example, superset with another movement on the back end, or on a weak point day. Just my two cents. You owe me two cents.
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Well I could have done snatch grip but just wasn't feelin it. Plus I pulled wayyyy more than I should have with convo. Max should have been 281.. So 285 x5
 
Can't superset anything fellas. No matter how many times you guys suggest it. I simply cannot breathe.


I currently do rows 2x a week. Will up to 3. What kind of rows? Or it don't matter. Usually do tbar and cable 2x, or db row and cable
 
smoker145 said:
Can't superset anything fellas. No matter how many times you guys suggest it. I simply cannot breathe. I currently do rows 2x a week. Will up to 3. What kind of rows? Or it don't matter. Usually do tbar and cable 2x, or db row and cable
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Any kind of row. Seriously, remember what I said about eatin dessert before dinner?????

Not being able to breathe is all the more reason to do supersets. Build yourself up that work capacity.

Oh, and I'm sure smoking ain't helpin out either.
 
Sean1332 said:
Any kind of row. Seriously, remember what I said about eatin dessert before dinner????? Not being able to breathe is all the more reason to do supersets. Build yourself up that work capacity. Oh, and I'm sure smoking ain't helpin out either.
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Yea now I remember. Don't beat me to death guys, but here it goes..

Why is conditioning so important? On stage you do one rep. That's it...


And I've had problems breathing since a child. I'm sure smoking doesn't help, which is another reason why my parents were so mad when I started it... But it is what it is
 
smoker145 said:
Yea now I remember. Don't beat me to death guys, but here it goes.. Why is conditioning so important? On stage you do one rep. That's it... And I've had problems breathing since a child. I'm sure smoking doesn't help, which is another reason why my parents were so mad when I started it... But it is what it is
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You'll be able to increase volume in your workouts. You'll be able to do more. Your recovery rate will improve. You'll have a better body composition. You'll breathe easier with 700lbs on your back. I don't think conditioning is necessary but I think if your workouts suffer because of a lack of conditioning (i.e. not even being able to superset, which is pretty damn common in the gym culture, bodybuilding/powerlifting/Olympic lifting) then you should do some.

I honestly think you waste your time with shrugs but I'll leave that alone.
 
Sean1332 said:
You'll be able to increase volume in your workouts. You'll be able to do more. Your recovery rate will improve. You'll have a better body composition. You'll breathe easier with 700lbs on your back. I don't think conditioning is necessary but I think if your workouts suffer because of a lack of conditioning (i.e. not even being able to superset, which is pretty damn common in the gym culture, bodybuilding/powerlifting/Olympic lifting) then you should do some.

I honestly think you waste your time with shrugs but I'll leave that alone.
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I think it is necessary for all of those reasons, and I think its necessary just for the fact that a solid base of conditioning improves your ability to recover from workouts.
 
jimbuick said:
I think it is necessary for all of those reasons, and I think its necessary just for the fact that a solid base of conditioning improves your ability to recover from workouts.
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True. I guess I meant it not being necessary as in: if you don't have an issue in any area that can be fixed by conditioning, then it may not be necessary, but that's highly unlikely.

Honestly, not being able to do a superset is a pretty good sign that conditioning is needed.
 
Do a full power meet with nine maximal effort lifts and then tell me whether or not you think conditioning is important.
 
smoker145 said:
Can't superset anything fellas. No matter how many times you guys suggest it. I simply cannot breathe. I currently do rows 2x a week. Will up to 3. What kind of rows? Or it don't matter. Usually do tbar and cable 2x, or db row and cable
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You're severely out of shape if you can't superset anything.
 
Rodja said:
You're severely out of shape if you can't superset anything.
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Well I could, it would just knock me out and require a long rest which is counterproductive I would think.

I mean I guess I could try to add conditioning, but the last time I did sleds I could hardly drive home and I was like knocked out for sometime
 
smoker145 said:
Well I could, it would just knock me out and require a long rest which is counterproductive I would think.

I mean I guess I could try to add conditioning, but the last time I did sleds I could hardly drive home and I was like knocked out for sometime
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So you're ridiculously out of shape and find yourself out of breath when trying to do anything?



Yep, no reason to fix that....
 
smoker145 said:
Well I could, it would just knock me out and require a long rest which is counterproductive I would think. I mean I guess I could try to add conditioning, but the last time I did sleds I could hardly drive home and I was like knocked out for sometime
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This **** isn't supossed to be easy. Suck it up.
 
So basically what I'm hearing is you should be doing nothing but supersets for assistance and conditioning 2x/week, building up to 4.
 
I'm 38, 50 pounds overweight, have a heart condition and I'm in better shape than you?

C'mon kid.
 
Swanson52 said:
I'm 38, 50 pounds overweight, have a heart condition and I'm in better shape than you? C'mon kid.
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I don't look outta shape. I just am on the inside nawhmsayin.

And I'll pick it up boys. It's gonna blow but I'll try
 
Listen buddy, we tell the truth around here for each other's benefit. Nobody told me I looked ripped when I put up my noodz. Nobody's saying you look like a slob and should kill yourself. We're telling you it's time to put down the lung darts, grab the sled, and make it look like you work out, both in the mirror and after a 100yd walk.
 
herderdude said:
Listen buddy, we tell the truth around here for each other's benefit. Nobody told me I looked ripped when I put up my noodz. Nobody's saying you look like a slob and should kill yourself. We're telling you it's time to put down the lung darts, grab the sled, and make it look like you work out, both in the mirror and after a 100yd walk.
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Nailed it.
 
smoker145 said:
I don't look outta shape. I just am on the inside nawhmsayin.

And I'll pick it up boys. It's gonna blow but I'll try
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That's my point. I don't give 2 fücks what you look like, but I can superset exercises for an entire session. You can't.

I've seen some ripped ass dudes that get winded climbing a flight of stairs. I'll take my belly and ability to push a loaded prowler.
 
herderdude said:
Listen buddy, we tell the truth around here for each other's benefit. Nobody told me I looked ripped when I put up my noodz. Nobody's saying you look like a slob and should kill yourself. We're telling you it's time to put down the lung darts, grab the sled, and make it look like you work out, both in the mirror and after a 100yd walk.
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Alright maybe I did get a lil defensive. My b Jim.

Time to clean it up.

Bye 200 lb, well meet again some day. Only thing is I can't start a cut for like 6-7 weeks here. Just gonna have to eat better
 
smoker145 said:
Alright maybe I did get a lil defensive. My b Jim.

Time to clean it up.

Bye 200 lb, well meet again some day. Only thing is I can't start a cut for like 6-7 weeks here. Just gonna have to eat better
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Who said cut?


No one said to cut, clean the diet up but continue eating as much as possible and decrease rest times and start doing conditioning work so that you can perform at the level you want to perform at.
 
You can be fat and conditioned. Conditioning is how efficient your cardiovascular system is. Weight and body comp are just the consistency and amount of your tissues. Just because most over weight people are out of shape doesn't mean those two have to go together. Eat big and condition hard.
 
jimbuick said:
Who said cut? No one said to cut, clean the diet up but continue eating as much as possible and decrease rest times and start doing conditioning work so that you can perform at the level you want to perform at.
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Ok makes sense. Do you guys think I'm fat? I'm not trying to be a girl here, but I wanna know
 
How bout this; you can only shrug if it's supersetted with something else. You'll whip your ass into shape quick.
 
Squat assistance= sled drags/pushes SS with Lunges


DL Assistance= backwards sled drag SS with GHR


Plus back work on both days.
 
This may help a bit. I break down a training session into three phases: primary, secondary, and ancillary work. Primary training has no set rest period. Whenever I'm ready is when I'll lift. Secondary I try to keep to 2 minutes rest at the most. Ancillary work is where I generally superset everything, especially for upper body. That should give you an idea how to start.
 
Smoker, you're not fat you just need to move your ass. If you suck at something, do more of it. That's how you get better.

I also think you need to learn how to test your limits. You'd be very surprised how far you can go with the right mind set.

No nuts, no glory.
 
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