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2nd cycle test 400 and dbol advice

jmuzz07

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So im planning on running my second cycle
Age : 24
Height : 6ft
Weight : 100 kg
Bf % : 10-12%

Cycle
Test 400 : 800mg a week
Dbol : 40mg ed for 4 weeks
Arimidex : .5mg eod

Pct : nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

What do you guys think?
Not sure if i should inject twice a week or once a week in order to utilitiez the prop for its short acting ester or just twice a week as stated
Any help would be appreciated thanks :)
 
If it's prop you better be pinning 3x a week.
If it's prop, 400mg/ml is gonna hurt like a bitch.
If it's only your second cycle I would not use 800mg/week. I'd do the math and aim for 500mg/week.
No need for both nolva and clomid. Pick clomid and taper to 25mg the last week so there is no rebound issues.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
If it's prop you better be pinning 3x a week.
If it's prop, 400mg/ml is gonna hurt like a bitch.
If it's only your second cycle I would not use 800mg/week. I'd do the math and aim for 500mg/week.
No need for both nolva and clomid. Pick clomid and taper to 25mg the last week so there is no rebound issues.
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Sorry i forgot to mention its tri test 400 a blend of 3 different test
 
I think if you pinned EOD for the first couple weeks you could have stable blood levels and then get away with 2x/week.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I think if you pinned EOD for the first couple weeks you could have stable blood levels and then get away with 2x/week.
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So you recokon for the first 3 weeks pin eod and then for the rest just twice a week
If i do that wont the blood levels be unstabilized once i go to pinning twice a week
 
Just pin mon/Thursday. Don't f around trying to "stabilize blood levels". The amount of prop is probably negligible anyways. 1ml mon 1 Thursday. 800 is fine if you've cycled before. Especially at 500 a week. Have a stronger AI on hand. Dbol aromatization is a bitch especially with that much test. Those doses will have my nips torched in 3 weeks.
 
superbeast668 said:
Just pin mon/Thursday. Don't f around trying to "stabilize blood levels". The amount of prop is probably negligible anyways. 1ml mon 1 Thursday. 800 is fine if you've cycled before. Especially at 500 a week. Have a stronger AI on hand. Dbol aromatization is a bitch especially with that much test. Those doses will have my nips torched in 3 weeks.
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x2 on the stabilizing silliness

I like this advice, A LOT
 
May be silly but in theory it sounds right. I plugged some values into roid calc to see if it would work out.
You'd obviously split the weekly dose into 3 pins instead of 2. I'm not saying front load.
 
superbeast668 said:
Just pin mon/Thursday. Don't f around trying to "stabilize blood levels". The amount of prop is probably negligible anyways. 1ml mon 1 Thursday. 800 is fine if you've cycled before. Especially at 500 a week. Have a stronger AI on hand. Dbol aromatization is a bitch especially with that much test. Those doses will have my nips torched in 3 weeks.
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Thats what i was thinking
What could be a stronger ai
Would .5 mg arimidex eod be enough
My test just arrived its nordicor 400
Test e 150mg
Test c 150mg
Test p 50mg
Test acetate 50mg
 
jmuzz07 said:
Thats what i was thinking What could be a stronger ai Would .5 mg arimidex eod be enough My test just arrived its nordicor 400 Test e 150mg Test c 150mg Test p 50mg Test acetate 50mg
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.5mg adex could be good. Depends on how you do with estro. If your nips get sore just be ready to move it to ed. If you don't have letro on hand I recommend having some in case sh!t happens. Especially with a crazy blend like that and a highly aromatizable oral.
 
superbeast668 said:
.5mg adex could be good. Depends on how you do with estro. If your nips get sore just be ready to move it to ed. If you don't have letro on hand I recommend having some in case sh!t happens. Especially with a crazy blend like that and a highly aromatizable oral.
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I cant get hold of letro i have nolva on hand would that help
Or anything else help?
 
Really?! Most places that carry adex have letro and exemestane. Nolva helps block e2 from breast tissue so yes it would help but your better off having a stronger AI in emergency situations.
 
superbeast668 said:
Really?! Most places that carry adex have letro and exemestane. Nolva helps block e2 from breast tissue so yes it would help but your better off having a stronger AI in emergency situations.
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If my nips get sore what dosage of ai and nolva should i take
And what else could i add to this cycle as it is a bulking cycle and i want to optimaze gains aay diet will be %110
 
jmuzz07 said:
If my nips get sore what dosage of ai and nolva should i take And what else could i add to this cycle as it is a bulking cycle and i want to optimaze gains aay diet will be %110
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I wouldn't go over 20mg nolva eod. Nor would I go more than .5 adex eod. You should be fine with just adex but it's really recommended to have stronger AI on hand just in case. Boy Scout motto. Be prepared.

It's your first cycle. You're gains will be optimized based off of virgin receptors. As long as your working hard in the gym and eating lots of high quality food you'll get big.
 
I've ran 400 multiple times. I get 2-3 vials of Prop to supplement the small amount in the blend. You can run your 400 twice a week at .5ml w/some additional prop and then prop @ 50mg in between. I began cycling it this way every time and have always enjoyed it. I enjoy my test "kicked in" as soon as possible so I run twice the prop I'm recommending.
Example
Monday .5ml(400) + .25ml(prop)
Wed .5ml prop
Friday .5ml(400) + .25ml(prop)

Puts you right at 500mg/week if you stick to MWF and not traditional eod
 
Matthersby said:
I've ran 400 multiple times. I get 2-3 vials of Prop to supplement the small amount in the blend. You can run your 400 twice a week at .5ml w/some additional prop and then prop @ 50mg in between. I began cycling it this way every time and have always enjoyed it. I enjoy my test "kicked in" as soon as possible so I run twice the prop I'm recommending. Example Monday .5ml(400) + .25ml(prop) Wed .5ml prop Friday .5ml(400) + .25ml(prop) Puts you right at 500mg/week if you stick to MWF and not traditional eod
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I like that idea. Probably makes it much smoother than a blend like that or sus.
 
Why thank you Mr. Beast, but a while back, I was given the idea from a helpful AM member's suggestion, so I can take credit only for creating my own version of it. It has worked really well for cycles, but for me personally, gyno comes on quick so I actually have to run Letro from day 1.
 
Also i plan on taking hcg

Would 250iu twice per week a good dosage?
Will that increase estrogen too much
 
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Thats the test i got testicorQ ive head its been underdosed or has no active ingredient in it is this true?
 
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