Extra boost

[Jeff5886]

I am 6 weeks post op from gyno surgery. I am looking to take something to add to my current stack. Right now I'm taking a multi, creatine, and protein and ECA. I'm trying to get back into competing and want to drop down into the single digits but do not want to take anything that will risk Gyno. I plan on picking up some white flood tomorrow. Is there anything else out there that I should consider that would be good for cutting and/or building lean mass.

Edit: bloodwork b4 surgery was showing me in the 535 range. I'm 27 male.

 

[hvactech]

Dose WF away from EC.... you've competed before?

 

[Jeff5886]

Dose WF away from EC.... you've competed before?

Years ago. Gyno slowed down progress but just got it squared away

 

[Wilsy7]

Years ago. Gyno slowed down progress but just got it squared away

Why did it slow your progress?

 

[Jeff5886]

Why did it slow your progress?

Killed my motivation. It was painful to lift also

 

[R1balla]

ArA

 

[wasme]

If you are looking for a good pre-workout, instead of white flood you might want to consider something like Stimul8. It is a strong pre-workout, but also incorporates a thermogenic and most loggers reported appetite suppression. As hvactech suggested though you would need to dose it away from your ECA. Good luck in your endeavor.

 

[jimbuick]

Lean Bulk: Anabeta Elite, Endosurge Turbo, Formasurge or Erase Pro, IGF 2, Prime, X Gels or X factor.


Cut: DCP 2.0, Alphamine, Forskolin 95, Formasurge or Erase Pro, X Gels or X Factor


Pre Workout: Uncut, Stimul8 (High stim), High Volume (non stim)



Those are some pretty good supps that should help. I wouldn't use them all together, but individually or as a stack they should give you a decent boost.

 

[R1balla]

Lean Bulk: Anabeta Elite, Endosurge Turbo, Formasurge or Erase Pro, IGF 2, Prime, X Gels or X factor.

Cut: DCP 2.0, Alphamine, Forskolin 95, Formasurge or Erase Pro, X Gels or X Factor

Pre Workout: Uncut, Stimul8 (High stim), High Volume (non stim)

Those are some pretty good supps that should help. I wouldn't use them all together, but individually or as a stack they should give you a decent boost.

Dude, yessssss. I love igf 2. Favorite supplement

 

[Wilsy7]

Killed my motivation. It was painful to lift also

Glad your back on the right track buddy

 

[Jeff5886]

Lean Bulk: Anabeta Elite, Endosurge Turbo, Formasurge or Erase Pro, IGF 2, Prime, X Gels or X factor.

Cut: DCP 2.0, Alphamine, Forskolin 95, Formasurge or Erase Pro, X Gels or X Factor


Pre Workout: Uncut, Stimul8 (High stim), High Volume (non stim)



Those are some pretty good supps that should help. I wouldn't use them all together, but individually or as a stack they should give you a decent boost.

Thanks for the replays everyone. Inwas under the impression that's supps like erase pro, prime and forskolin can potentially cause gyno. Thoughts?

 

[Jeff5886]

Lean Bulk: Anabeta Elite, Endosurge Turbo, Formasurge or Erase Pro, IGF 2, Prime, X Gels or X factor.

Cut: DCP 2.0, Alphamine, Forskolin 95, Formasurge or Erase Pro, X Gels or X Factor


Pre Workout: Uncut, Stimul8 (High stim), High Volume (non stim)



Those are some pretty good supps that should help. I wouldn't use them all together, but individually or as a stack they should give you a decent boost.

Thanks for the replays everyone. Inwas under the impression that's supps like erase pro, prime and forskolin can potentially cause gyno. Thoughts?

 

[slowprogress]

Am I wrong in thinking it shouldn't matter now if the glands have been removed surgically?

 

[Jeff5886]

Am I wrong in thinking it shouldn't matter now if the glands have been removed surgically?

My understanding is that they leave a small portion of it in. Also, if I'm prone to gyno, I don't want to risk it coming back.

 

[slowprogress]

Ah ok. Well I've never had gyno from forskolin or erase but i have had mild gyno (small tender lumps) before from ph's and a serm cleared it up. So crazy as it sounds to suggest keeping a serm available for the above supps, it won't be a bad idea to have what you need at all times, without sounding too patronising. Forsk has never really done much for me but erase is a decent ai which will help minimise gyno, maybe taper off it to avoid poss of rebound

 

[R1balla]

ive never had gyno or gyno symptoms from any of those proucts.

 

[Young Gotti]

if your fresh off the surgery i'd probably stay away from any AI or test booster for the time being

The more and more I search around I'm a big believer in intra workout products...a simple BCAA product or something like Compete if you want something more complete

Dexaprine XR for fat burning (probably wouldn't take it with eca though), maybe tt-33 to add to eca for a non stim fat burning effect

 

[jimbuick]

Thanks for the replays everyone. Inwas under the impression that's supps like erase pro, prime and forskolin can potentially cause gyno. Thoughts?

It shouldn't.


Erase and Erase Pro are suicidal AIs, they lower estrogen with no rebound afterwards.

I highly doubt Prime has any effect on hormones at all, I primarily use it because I notice strength increases from it.


Forskolin I have never heard of anyone having issues with, so I would doubt it.


Plus, I was under the impression that the surgery you received was to remove the gland. I don't think you can get gyno now.

 

[R1balla]

It shouldn't.


Erase and Erase Pro are suicidal AIs, they lower estrogen with no rebound afterwards.

I highly doubt Prime has any effect on hormones at all, I primarily use it because I notice strength increases from it.


Forskolin I have never heard of anyone having issues with, so I would doubt it.


Plus, I was under the impression that the surgery you received was to remove the gland. I don't think you can get gyno now.

exactly. My favorite stack to date is Anabeta + Prime + IGF 2. Wonder what Formasurge and X gels added to this stack would produce....