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1ifeblood Breaks On Through to the Other Side!

I finished my workout from yesterday and it went a little something like this...HIT IT!

Seated Cable Rows
140x8
140x8
140x8
140x8
160x8
180x8
180x8
200x8
*The first 4 sets were very controlled with a 2 second squeeze. The last couple sets had significant upper body movement to keep the reps going but the eccentric was a 3 second return.

Lateral DB Raise
40x8
40x8
30x8
30x8
30x8
30x8
20x8
20x8
*did these opposite from the rows. First couple took some cheating to get the weight up but it was controlled down. Had the traps working the weight mostly. As the weight decreased I focused more on remaining upright and really hitting the delts.

Preacher EZ Curls
70x8
70x8
70x8
70x8
70x8
70x8
70x12
70x9
*Okay only the first 3 sets were preacher Curls. Instead of lowering the weight I stood for the remainder of the sets. I had a buddy come into the gym after my 6th set and talked to him for a couple mins so I repped out 12 on the next set to get the pump back into my biceps and only waited 30s before hitting the last set.

The focus of this workout was chest which is why I had the 5x5 sets on Bench and the isolated pump sets on Chest Raise. Tomorrow I will be hitting legs again and I'll have more time before work so we'll see how much of this workout I can get in.
 
I weighed in today at 195.8. My weight keeps dropping. I'm still eating well over maintenance so is the loss due to me being of the dbol? That's what I've been blaming it on but is been over a week since I stopped and I'm just wondering if it's typical.
 
1ifeblood said:
I weighed in today at 195.8. My weight keeps dropping. I'm still eating well over maintenance so is the loss due to me being of the dbol? That's what I've been blaming it on but is been over a week since I stopped and I'm just wondering if it's typical.
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Maybe you've lost some water weight from being off the dbol.
 
It could be some water weight and it could be a little bit of fat loss from the lowered e levels as a result of no dbol. Either way dont sweat it-use the mirror not the scale.

and nice aerosmith reference to the work out! lol
 
MANotaur said:
It could be some water weight and it could be a little bit of fat loss from the lowered e levels as a result of no dbol. Either way dont sweat it-use the mirror not the scale.

and nice aerosmith reference to the work out! lol
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Lol... wondered if anyone would catch that.
 
1ifeblood said:
Got to the gym at 530 am today which is about 30 mins before I usually get there. Unfortunately I still didn't have enough time to get through my full workout so I'm going to try and get back some time today and finish up. But here's what I got so far...

WORKOUT

Bench Press 5x5
185x5
205x5
225x3 (1 rep short of PR)
205X5
205X5

Incline DB Press 8x8 (60s rest)
60x8
65x8
65x8
65x5
60x6
60x8
*had a strange increase in endurance and strength so jumped back up to 65.
65x8
65x5

Lower Cable Chest Raise 4-2-4
40x12
40x12
40x12

Wide Grip Lat PD (60s rest)
130x10
140x10
150x10
160x8
160x8
160x8
160x8
160x10 > 130x5 > 100x10
*I put more lean into the last set to get as many reps as I could
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Another way to do the GVT / 10x10 is to alternate your exercises if you can. It makes it go faster. So you would do like Bench rest 60, Pull Downs rest 60, Bench rest 60... and so on. That way your body doesn't get much rest but the muscle group gets a full 2 minutes since it rests while working the other body part. On top of that working antagonistic muscle groups creates better pumps and there are some mechanical benefits to it too. I think it may have to do with how the CNS responds but I don't remember the details.
Lukef2000 said:
As long as your getting stronger who cares what the scale says :)
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Bodybuilders or anyone that is trying to gain mass. ;) However yes I know what you mean, and for the strength oriented that statement holds quite true.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Another way to do the GVT / 10x10 is to alternate your exercises if you can. It makes it go faster. So you would do like Bench rest 60, Pull Downs rest 60, Bench rest 60... and so on. That way your body doesn't get much rest but the muscle group gets a full 2 minutes since it rests while working the other body part. On top of that working antagonistic muscle groups creates better pumps and there are some mechanical benefits to it too. I think it may have to do with how the CNS responds but I don't remember the details.
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This is exactly how I have been doing it...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Another way to do the GVT / 10x10 is to alternate your exercises if you can. It makes it go faster. So you would do like Bench rest 60, Pull Downs rest 60, Bench rest 60... and so on. That way your body doesn't get much rest but the muscle group gets a full 2 minutes since it rests while working the other body part. On top of that working antagonistic muscle groups creates better pumps and there are some mechanical benefits to it too. I think it may have to do with how the CNS responds but I don't remember the details.

Bodybuilders or anyone that is trying to gain mass. ;) However yes I know what you mean, and for the strength oriented that statement holds quite true.
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I'll have to try this!
 
I'd say water weight from the dbol for sure. Do you feel less bloated? Maybe a little flatter or less full?
 
Oh screw it man... Put up some pics and we will tell you what we think.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Bodybuilders or anyone that is trying to gain mass. ;) However yes I know what you mean, and for the strength oriented that statement holds quite true.
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You know what I mean, usually size and strength come together (unless your specifically training for one), I've yet to see someone loose mass yet get stronger....
 
1ifeblood said:
Still sore as fock! But I feel like conquering the 10x10s has put my frame of mind on a different level as far as what I believe I'm capable of doing. My workouts are going to have a lot more volume.
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Here we go...

1ifeblood said:
I weighed in today at 195.8. My weight keeps dropping. I'm still eating well over maintenance so is the loss due to me being of the dbol? That's what I've been blaming it on but is been over a week since I stopped and I'm just wondering if it's typical.
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Like the others said, it's nothing to worry about. You're going to lose bloat from under the skin as well as intramuscular water.

1ifeblood said:
I'll have to try this!
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It's great for fitting more into less time which is exactly what you need. I do something similar often when working small muscle groups, say bis and tris or delts and calves.

Lukef2000 said:
You know what I mean, usually size and strength come together (unless your specifically training for one), I've yet to see someone loose mass yet get stronger....
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I have. It's very possible for someone to say improve their ability to power from the hole, control the ROM of their movements, or to create a better mental connection to contract better/harder at will, but to lose mass during the process. Any lifter who is at least semi-perceptive can experience things like that whether their training is actually focused on strength or not. Generally though yes, size does come with strength, especially with novice lifters.

1ifeblood, how are you doing with your recovery so far with the increased volume? Handling it well?
 
I fûcking DEMOLISHED my legs today... check it out!

WORKOUT

Squats
225x5
225x5
245x5
275x5
255x5

Leg Press (60s rest)
400x8x8

Leg Extensions 4-2-4
70x10
60x10
50x12

Standing Leg Curl
50x8x8

Lying Leg Curls 4-2-4
50x12x3

Seated Calf Raise 4-2-4
90x12x3
 
classic34 said:
Here we go...

Like the others said, it's nothing to worry about. You're going to lose bloat from under the skin as well as intramuscular water.

It's great for fitting more into less time which is exactly what you need. I do something similar often when working small muscle groups, say bis and tris or delts and calves.

I have. It's very possible for example for someone to improve their ability to say power from the hole, control the ROM of their movements, or to create a better mental connection to contract better/harder at will, but to be lose mass during the process. Just because you have mass doesn't mean you know how to use it or that it is of the right quality to push weight, you know? Generally though yes, size does come with strength, especially with novice lifters.

1ifeblood, how are you doing with your recovery so far with the increased volume? Handling it well?
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Good stuff as always, Classy. Thank you! My recovery is amazing. Strength felt a bit less today on squats. My PR is 275x5 and I hit that but I didn't feel very confident hiring it. Could be because of the rows I did yesterday though.

I am loving the volume! I was probably 15 mins shy of getting the full workout, just some more Calf work and abs. So I'll be hiring the gym 15 mins earlier. But I think I'm going to focus on maximizing the work I do pet each muscle group instead of trying to fit all muscles into one day. Because I would have to cut volume to do it. So its going to look like chest/back on Monday, shoulders/arms on Wednesday, and legs/abs on Friday.
 
Oh, Hey Classy... I've been splitting my dose of Modern BCAAs, one scoop pre and one post. Just wanted to make sure I was still getting full benefit from the product.
 
Snapped a couple pics this morning after my workout. No pump and fasted with only bcaa before and after w/o. I weighed 197.2 this morning upon waking.



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1ifeblood said:
Snapped a couple pics this morning after my workout. No pump and fasted with only bcaa before and after w/o. I weighed 197.2 this morning upon waking.



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lookin good brotha!!! keep up the good work! you look like your leaning out quite a bit!
 
yeah I see a smidge of waterweight, nothing at all to be concerned about tho..
you look thick! def movement going on in right direction here :cheers:
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yeah I see a smidge of waterweight, nothing at all to be concerned about tho..
you look thick! def movement going on in right direction here :cheers:
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MANotaur said:
lookin good brotha!!! keep up the good work! you look like your leaning out quite a bit!
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Thanks fellas! Your feedback is always motivating! I'm going to try and get some measurements in this weekend to see how the numbers look.
 
Definitely see a some good progress here brother. Doing great!
 
I finished this week with an awesome back session! It took 1.5 hours which is about how much time I'll typically have before work so I've finally been able to put together my routine. Here's what my back workout looks like.

WORKOUT

BO BB Rows
185x5
185x5
185x5
205x5
225x5
*First time doing these

Wide grip Lat PDs (60s rests)
160x8x7
160x10

Straight Arm PDs 4-2-4
100x12
100x5 > 90x6
90x12

Seated DB Shrugs (2s squeeze)
70x8x8

Skullcrushers (30s rest)
50x8x6

Machine Tricep Extensions 4-2-4
50x12
70x12
70x12

This definitely felt like my best workout yet! All around stength was good but my endurance was by far the best it's ever been. Next week is gonna be AWESOME!
 
1ifeblood said:
Oh, Hey Classy... I've been splitting my dose of Modern BCAAs, one scoop pre and one post. Just wanted to make sure I was still getting full benefit from the product.
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Why not just drink it all during training? Your sessions are long so it might not be a bad idea to do it that way. If you don't like doing the fruity drink intra-workout then all right before or split before and after is fine. I've been using the tabs and usually just take two servings (about the same as two scoops) on the way to the gym. Speaking of Modern BCAA+™ tabs, they are awesome for people who don't like the flavored drinks intra-workout so if that's the case with you they may be worth looking into.
 
classic34 said:
Modern BCAA+™ tabs, they are awesome for people who don't like the flavored drinks intra-workout.
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wtf? this makes no sense to me
I mean, one should stay well-hydrated thruout training anyway -- what better way than to be drinking a tasty flavored drink chock full of BCAAs?
:think:
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
wtf? this makes no sense to me
I mean, one should stay well-hydrated thruout training anyway -- what better way than to be drinking a tasty flavored drink chock full of BCAAs?
:think:
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Snags boasting his shining finesse with the ladies. ;-) Fact of the matter is, big boy, I DON'T like drinking flavored drinks while I workout. I just want water... clean, cold, refreshing WATER. Last I checked, water was a great way to stay hydrated. :-P
 
1ifeblood said:
Snags boasting his shining finesse with the ladies. ;-) Fact of the matter is, big boy, I DON'T like drinking flavored drinks while I workout. I just want water... clean, cold, refreshing WATER. Last I checked, water was a great way to stay hydrated. :-P
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hmmm well you go boy, to each their own
for me, clean cold refreshing water with BCAAs (and in my case SAAs as well) = better than plain water
I already drink a sh1t-ton of h2o daily anyway (min 1.5g), so for me anytime I can get flavor it is a nice refreshing change of pace
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
hmmm well you go boy, to each their own
for me, clean cold refreshing water with BCAAs (and in my case SAAs as well) = better than plain water
I already drink a sh1t-ton of h2o daily anyway (min 1.5g), so for me anytime I can get flavor it is a nice refreshing change of pace
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Ive had to drop bcaas intra and i have to be carefupl with my preworkouts too.

They all make me puke :( sad
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
really? whoaa crazy
what brands are using, if you are comfortable answering this publicly?
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Ive uaed a few- its ceazy

C4, old jack3d (this probably did it the least) MM, ignite, anabolic halo, NOxplode-a few more that i cant think of right off the top of my head.

As far as bcaas ive tried bulk generic, monster bcaa, xtend, amino1, and a few others.

Its terrible i hate it
 
MANotaur said:
Ive uaed a few- its ceazy

C4, old jack3d (this probably did it the least) MM, ignite, anabolic halo, NOxplode-a few more that i cant think of right off the top of my head.

As far as bcaas ive tried bulk generic, monster bcaa, xtend, amino1, and a few others.

Its terrible i hate it
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Wtf is wrong with you?
 
Montego1 said:
Wtf is wrong with you?
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I dunno. Its always been like that. I dunno if it has to do with the sugars or stims or what.

But it never fails- if i use a pre: i puke during my workout
If i sip on bcaas during: i puke afterward.
 
MANotaur said:
Ive uaed a few- its ceazy

C4, old jack3d (this probably did it the least) MM, ignite, anabolic halo, NOxplode-a few more that i cant think of right off the top of my head.

As far as bcaas ive tried bulk generic, monster bcaa, xtend, amino1, and a few others.

Its terrible i hate it
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I used to get extremely nauseous if I drank the bulk generic bcaas until I started mixing it with OJ, I don't know if it was the brand (or lack of) but I never take them without some kind of juice and the nausea has never happened since.

Xtend never gave me a problem though
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
hmmm well you go boy, to each their own
for me, clean cold refreshing water with BCAAs (and in my case SAAs as well) = better than plain water
I already drink a sh1t-ton of h2o daily anyway (min 1.5g), so for me anytime I can get flavor it is a nice refreshing change of pace
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I guess that's why I like the water during my workout because I'm already drinking OJ with BCAAs pre and post. I suppose it could be different if that wasn't the case.
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
wtf? this makes no sense to me
I mean, one should stay well-hydrated thruout training anyway -- what better way than to be drinking a tasty flavored drink chock full of BCAAs?
:think:
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Don't get me wrong. I love a tasty flavored drink, but during my workout lately I prefer plain water.
 
MANotaur said:
Ive had to drop bcaas intra and i have to be carefupl with my preworkouts too.

They all make me puke :( sad
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How strange. Do you always go for a particular flavor? Some people get sick from red #40.
 
MANotaur said:
not really lol-I just kind of get whatever sounds good. but i have heard that about red 40
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Yeah, I used to have a friend who would throw up or get very sick from red#40 in preworkouts.

I guess you can always go with capsuled versions or tablets without the sweeteners, dyes, etc.
 
My birthday was Monday so I took a break from workouts and diets and replaced it with a couple days of birthday festivities. But today it's time to get serious again! Weigh in this morning was 201.8... the heaviest I've ever been! The best thing about it is that I STILL fit into the same pair of jeans so my waist hasn't changed much (although the thighs and butt are extremely tight) however I'm practically busting out of my shirts! Time to hit the gym... this workout is gonna be a good one!
 
happy belated birthday bubba!

isnt that a good feeling when your shirts get snug?? and you know its the good kind of snug?
 
Other than my Bench feeling a little heavier, the workout felt great! Switched up my Incline DB Press to a hammer Press hoping to hit my upper inner chest more directly... Yeah it worked!

WORKOUT

Bench Press
185x5
205x5
225x3+2 (with spotter)
205x4
205x3

DB Hammer Incline Press (60s rest)
50x8
60x8
60x8
60x6
50x8
50x5
40x8
40x8 > 30x6 > 20x10

Low Pulley Chest Raise [4-2-4]
40x12
40x12
40x12 > 30x10

DB Lat Raise (60s rest)
30x8x8

Seated Supinated DB Press [4-2-4]
20x12
20x12
20x10 > 10x10

EZ Bar Preacher Curls (60s rest)
70x8
70x8
70x8
55x8
55x8
55x8

Cross Body Hammer Curls
20x12 [4-2-4]
20x15 [burn out]

I couldn't believe the form I was staring at in the mirror! The pump I had going was totally BEAST! I imagine my lowered strength had something to do with the festivities I partook in over the last several days but it certainly didn't mess with my endurance or intensity. I have to attribute some of that to the 1.5 scoops of Stimul8 I dosed this morning. Yippie!
 
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