Snags gets ginormous with lean clean off-season dream bulk

[snagencyV2.0]

So much manipulating!

got to mang!
when you're working your way up the caloric ladder and not just jumping into the fire, you have to be a bit strategic to hit everything/all totals in proper fashion along the way, the way you want to hit them...and of course, as things evolve, you figure out better & more efficient ways to do things, so change can occur just from that aspect

I enjoy this tho! keeps my analytical mind occupied (I would say "anal mind", but I am aware of whom I am talking to here).....aranoid:

 

[Montego1]

got to mang!
when you're working your way up the caloric ladder and not just jumping into the fire, you have to be a bit strategic to hit everything/all totals in proper fashion along the way, the way you want to hit them...and of course, as things evolve, you figure out better & more efficient ways to do things, so change can occur just from that aspect

I enjoy this tho! keeps my analytical mind occupied (I would say "anal mind", but I am aware of whom I am talking to here).....aranoid:

How bout you analyze my last back pic in my thread sir

 

[wasme]

The guy is a genius with this stuff. There really is a science to it all, isn't there.

 

[Montego1]

The guy is a genius with this stuff. There really is a science to it all, isn't there.

Use that "S" word again and I will throw a rock at you :hitwithrock:

 

[wasme]

How bout you analyze my backside in my thread sir

..Hmmmm

 

[wasme]

Use that "S" word again and I will throw a rock at you :hitwithrock:

LMAO... totally forgot about your love for bunsen burners and beakers... Sorry buddy.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

^^ lol, the anti-Xcience crew up there

How bout you analyze my last back pic in my thread sir

be right there

The guy is a genius with this stuff. There really is a science to it all, isn't there.

well there is, really - at least, it works for me
failure to plan, is planning to fail...I will never be accused of not having a plan

 

[1ifeblood]

got to mang!
when you're working your way up the caloric ladder and not just jumping into the fire, you have to be a bit strategic to hit everything/all totals in proper fashion along the way, the way you want to hit them...and of course, as things evolve, you figure out better & more efficient ways to do things, so change can occur just from that aspect

I enjoy this tho! keeps my analytical mind occupied (I would say "anal mind", but I am aware of whom I am talking to here).....aranoid:

Whaaa??

 

[aceroni]

Back is looking thick/dense, snags

 

[snagencyV2.0]

208 upon rising this morning gents! :yup:

calculated totals/menu planned for today, will come in ~5065cals, 640/390/114

coming into the last 2 weeks of this extended cycle, looking to finish up strong and carry it over to PCT...really enjoying this tren/hexadrone combo, seems to work extremely well together, staying pretty dry and really no waterweight at any time other than when I had my one foray into crap eating the other night; because these are both non-methylated, has allowed me to drop TUDCA to 250mg/day as well

 

[chefbo]

setting the standard Steve!

 

[edje007]

208 upon rising this morning gents! :yup:

calculated totals/menu planned for today, will come in ~5065cals, 640/390/114

coming into the last 2 weeks of this extended cycle, looking to finish up strong and carry it over to PCT...really enjoying this tren/hexadrone combo, seems to work extremely well together, staying pretty dry and really no waterweight at any time other than when I had my one foray into crap eating the other night; because these are both non-methylated, has allowed me to drop TUDCA to 250mg/day as well

Gaining weight fast.....

Said it before.....Snags aka das Freak

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Whaaa??

what? you don't know about monte Freak-O brah?
keep your eye on that one :bigeyes:

Back is looking thick/dense, snags

setting the standard Steve!

Gaining weight fast.....

Said it before.....Snags aka das Freak

thanks gents - very happy with everything right now, even the ease with which I am packing up the remainder of my house!




couple meals lately - inc dinner #2 tonight, which was this:

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128g sweet potato fries+1/2c black beans+1/4c potatoes
garlic & herb tuna+albacore tuna & salsa+2oz honey smoked turkey breast
2 slices pineapple
romaine salad+honey mustard dressing+croutons
~900cals, 115/65/24




this was lunch earlier:

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2oz white turkey slices+2oz mesquite turkey breast+2oz ham, on
2 slices wheat+1 slice pepperjack cheese+bell pepper
7oz sweet potato
for dessert - 1 serving cinnamon life cereal+1 serving regular life+1 scoop whey+1c almond milk (mmmm)
975cals, 135/65/16.5

 

[1ifeblood]

what? you don't know about monte Freak-O brah?
keep your eye on that one :bigeyes:

Oh, I thought you were taking about...... someone else.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

for montego

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[edje007]

for montego

for everyone else

Last pic (side chest), you have the Jay Cutler look on your face

Looking great !!!!

 

[wasme]

Awesome update pics... you should've given us the Montego puppy dogs eyes though lol

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Last pic (side chest), you have the Jay Cutler look on your face

Looking great !!!!

I feel so.. large....
can still see my abs tho, which is kind of a prerequisite of this whole gig

Awesome update pics... you should've given us the Montego puppy dogs eyes though lol

teeth do not go with the puppy dog look
that may have come off a lil bit psychotic :scared:




cals will be bumped to ~5700-5800 today, increase coming from all carbs (and trace fats in those carbs)
now we're starting to get cracking :hammer:

 

[1ifeblood]

I feel so.. large....

You ARE feeling pretty large actually.

 

[1ifeblood]

You ARE feeling pretty large actually.

Darn my auto correct... that was supposed to say "looking large"... really.

 

[wasme]

Darn my auto correct... that was supposed to say "looking large"... really.

Sure it was...p:

 

[snagencyV2.0]

^^ yeah what he said there 1ifeblood




anywho..check out this meal, damn it was tasty..
so I went to pick up some rice (got basmati this time instead of jasmine, plus some brown rice as well), came across these knorr pasta sides on sale that looked kinda interesting...nice choice of flavs, low in fat (1g per serving), thought i'd give it a shot
glad I did - wonderful stuff..this one was the steak fajita flav pictured (2 servings worth); also had
1/2c black beans
1 serving brown rice triscuits
5oz 96% beef
1 red bell pepper
1/2 TBS butter

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885cals, 130/50/17.5





I swapped that meal today with my midday shake (so shake will come next)..typically, shake looks like this:
2 scoops muscle milk+1 scoop isolate
1c oats+1 slice cinnamon raisin Ezekiel toasted
~830cals, 95/70/22

I usually prefer/rely on isolates during the day, and a blended protein at night for pre-bed shake, and i'm not necessarily a fan of muscle milk (tho really I am not necessarily a fan of any protein powder - they simply help meet cal/macro goals, a means to an end..no allegiance to any brand, and tbh I would rather rely on whole foods to meet my needs), BUT that said: I picked up some MM graham cracker flav the other day at my vitamin shoppe demo, they had it on blowout (discontinued I guess) for $12.50 a tub, figured wth can't go wrong with that
OMG!!! stuff is ungawdly tasty, reminds me of the cake batter flav they used to have yrs back (don't know if they make it anymore but it's been that long since I had it)...wonderful taste, great texture - you can grab a spoon and just eat it right outta the tub
so, needless to say, I really look forward to these shakes now

 

[Hyde]

Muscle Milk is like desert...and the macro profile supports the notion

I avoid that stuff like the plague, as the price is usually stupid to boot - but at 12.50 a tasty tub, you could sign me up! Graham sounds awesome.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

stuff is crazy good hyde, seriously - and when you're eating structured like I am, and fairly clean at all times, you can pick your spots for that and it fits in just fine
when I'm eating this many cals, altho again you can see overall the caloric/micro choices are pretty solid, there is room for things that I would normally not eat when cals are lower/trying to get lean & cut....the more cals you eat, the more room you have to play/less important overall % of clean micros becomes, to a point anyway; you start eating all crap all the time, without paying any attention to macro structure/carb sourcing etc, that's when things get messy


in other news: the (original end) goal has almost been reached today -- can you say 6k cals mauled?
I knew when breakfast started off @1050cals, and then the planned preWO shake was getting 70cal bump (from addtl 1/2 scoop glycomaize), that today had a chance to hit some big totals...it just continued on from there
with pre-bed shake the only thing left to consume, totals this day will be
5925cals, 790/435/115.5

and i'm not going anywhere either - may stay here for tomorrow, slight drop on off-day Saturday (but not too much, as I have tennis planned with my son so we'll want to keep the cals up a bit), and pick up sunday again in same 6k range before I head upward on onwards 6000cals+ / 800g+ carbs ranges....we gonna keep pushing this thing until I sense I can no longer push it!

:dance:



dinner #2 tonight
128g sweet potato+3/4c potatoes
tuna & salsa+ham/turkey meat rolls stuffed with bbq sauce mix
green beans
935cals, 115/60/24.5

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had I planned this a little better, I would have had different carb sources w/ less fats, and stuffed some pepperjack cheese in those meat rolls with the sauce, mmmmm...I was hell-bent on potatoes this night tho, these sweet potatoes are addictive - I usually have always made my own (whole yams), but these frozen dudes are a tribute to my semi-relaxed approach here, and they are awesome (easier to make too, loads easier)

 

[Montego1]

I bought some fl zero fat cheese. ... you can't taste it

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I bought some fl zero fat cheese. ... you can't taste it

yeah not surprised, zero fat cheese sux

in other news: 210 this morning! :cool2:

 

[iparatroop]

Three weeks ago, on the phone, you were roughly 177 if I remember correctly. 210 now? Holy Christ.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Three weeks ago, on the phone, you were roughly 177 if I remember correctly. 210 now? Holy Christ.

ooooo a para sighting! :bigeyes:

it's called two very opposite extremes of the scale, broham&cheese
neither is truly representative of weight I will carry "normally" -- altho, 210 is A LOT closer to what norm will soon be, surely

 

[Hyde]

Remember that time you moved 33lbs in 3 wks? :laugh2:

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Remember that time you moved 33lbs in 3 wks? :laugh2:

LOL
well when you put it like that it does sound kinda silly, doesn't it?
do I hear 44# in 4 weeks? mmmm that may be pushing things, but I think 37-39# in that timeframe is eminently doable :yup:

 

[drewsicle3210]

Putting on decent size pretty quick it seems like, looking good Snags

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Putting on decent size pretty quick it seems like, looking good Snags

thanks drew
hopefully I don't start feeling immobile as hell - that's what has always curtailed my bulks in past times, just haven't felt good when I reach 210-215 range, too bulky and inflexible
so far, so good on that aspect, tho belly feels pretty damn full all the time



quick notation of protocol change:
so I moved my glycomaize+isolate shake back to 1/2hr preWO, and moved the BCAA+SAA to intraWO
not only does this make intuitive sense, I knew that when the preWO shake started getting larger it would mess with my training -- if I eat too close to training, stomach doesn't feel right, even wms or such other carb or even larger amount of isolate -- small glycomaize+isolate was okay but any bigger I would start disliking it
anyway, this works much better in all aspects, am glad I made the switch

 

[Montego1]

thanks drew
hopefully I don't start feeling immobile as hell - that's what has always curtailed my bulks in past times, just haven't felt good when I reach 210-215 range, too bulky and inflexible
so far, so good on that aspect, tho belly feels pretty damn full all the time

quick notation of protocol change:
so I moved my glycomaize+isolate shake back to 1/2hr preWO, and moved the BCAA+SAA to intraWO
not only does this make intuitive sense, I knew that when the preWO shake started getting larger it would mess with my training -- if I eat too close to training, stomach doesn't feel right, even wms or such other carb or even larger amount of isolate -- small glycomaize+isolate was okay but any bigger I would start disliking it
anyway, this works much better in all aspects, am glad I made the switch

I like to eat about an hour pre workout. Not full when I go and by the time I'm done, get home and finish my bcaa it's time for my next scheduled meal.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I like to eat about an hour pre workout. Not full when I go and by the time I'm done, get home and finish my bcaa it's time for my next scheduled meal.

yeah my protocol changes based on my bodycomp goals, sure..
for now, looks like this:

preWO meal is completed ~120min prior to start of training
preWO glycomaize/isolate shake comes 90min later (so ~30min prior to training) along w/ MaxPump
immediately upon starting training: begin consuming BCAA+SAA, sip thruout first 20-25min of session
immediately end of training: postWO shake (rice krispy treat+2 rice cakes+2 TBS brown rice syrup+30g isolate)+CreaTrona (4g)
~35min following completion of shake: consume postWO meal

I really like this set-up, for bulking times

 

[wasme]

hopefully I don't start feeling immobile as hell - that's what has always curtailed my bulks in past times, just haven't felt good when I reach 210-215 range, too bulky and inflexible

I was curious how you will find your tennis game on the weekend after this major shift..

I find it quite amazing how you are able to manipulate things perfectly to achieve your goals to a tee... impressive my friend.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I was curious how you will find your tennis game on the weekend after this major shift..

will be interesting, i'm sure aranoid:

I find it quite amazing how you are able to manipulate things perfectly to achieve your goals to a tee... impressive my friend.

thanks my man
experimentation thruout the yrs has been fun, and edifying

 

[aceroni]

It seems I like to eat and immediately drive to the gym. Then I take my time with prehab / foam rolling/ warmup and chat a few with friends (before I start, never during).

Drink my pre somewhere in there.. Otherwise i'm too hungry at the gym to concentrate.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

isn't it interesting how we all have our preferences
I developed my main preference (90-120min eating prior to workout) over the yrs simply due to overall wish to maintain lean composition, fueled by my belief of training with more empty stomach than full therefore ability to burn more bodyfat within the training session itself ... had the added benefit of finding I felt better, when on more empty/digested stomach than with fuller belly due to eating closer to session -- I mean it's not like I feel sick with full belly or anything (like some guys do), just sluggish and less energy

I have also never been big into the "designer carb" options, always prefer whole foods, but I do have to say I am enjoying this glycomaize a lot

 

[snagencyV2.0]

a little more traditional snagalicious meal

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5oz steak
1/4c basmati rice
orange & red grilled peppers
beans
2 servings brown rice triscuits+1 serving tomato & basil popped! rice cakes
not pictured: 1 scoop isolate
910cals, 25g fat (most fat in a meal I've had for awhile)

friggin meal was tasty as hell

 

[Lukef2000]

Gotta say snags the best thing about your log ( besides the volume of information ) is your food porn.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Gotta say snags the best thing about your log ( besides the volume of information ) is your food porn.

cool luke, glad you are enjoying


so my son stayed with me last night - he hadn't seen me in 2 weeks, tho we been talking and I've updated him on my progress..
soon as I took my shirt off later in the day, he was like "whoaa dad! I could tell you were bigger when I first saw you, but now without your shirt on I can see what you mean about what that added weight would do for you! you're huge!" LOL

he snapped couple pics before we went out and played tennis early this afternoon - really pleased with the shape of the back, looking pretty solid back there...legs are coming along well too (tho it's tougher to see the progress here), beefier, still veiny, and stronger! I mean I just been pounding iron in during training, been strong everywhere but leg strength has really shined bright

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lookin forward to mauling the chesticles tomorrow, been thinking about it ever since I sucked at tennis today :rant:
can def feel the added weight (~10# above normal playing weight currently), i'm just getting too big to maneuver and have the flexibility I once had, I mean I don't feel too inflexible or anything but reaction time seems to have slowed a millisecond, and that is all it takes to mess me up...so, ima have to recalculate my moves out there, work on getting better foot/court position to make up for my dimming speed

 

[Montego1]

Time for yoga?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Time for yoga?

that may help a bit with overall flexibility, but I don't think it will improve my reaction time/movement any....it's all a matter of carrying the extra weight, and adjusting accordingly
been there before - but instead of backing off because I don't feel athletically comfortable, I will see it thru all the way this time, tennis (or anything else) be damned
eye on one prize at a time LOL

 

[snagencyV2.0]

now THIS is a wrap

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thing was so big I couldn't even roll it right, shoulda just used two tortillas and layered one on top

stuffed with 5oz steak+4oz rotisserie chicken deli slices+pepperjack cheese+bbq sauce mix+peppers
garnished with 1/2c basmati rice
salad/dressing/croutons/peppers and 3 pineapple slices (ate two of them finishing up cooking)
put this meal ~1040cals

 

[wasme]

Looking huge man.. Dinner looks tasty as hell too. I know I don't have to say this but be careful you don't pull something playing tennis. That is the problem with slowing down and still trying to make a play (stretching way out to return the ball)...

 

[kenpoengineer]

that may help a bit with overall flexibility, but I don't think it will improve my reaction time/movement any....it's all a matter of carrying the extra weight, and adjusting accordingly been there before - but instead of backing off because I don't feel athletically comfortable, I will see it thru all the way this time, tennis (or anything else) be damned eye on one prize at a time LOL

Yes, I remember you saying in earlier logs that your athleticism decreases after 200+ lbs BW. Been following and wondering why you're moving up to this high weight competition in sacrifice for tennis speed and agility. Curious, When you get your pro card, as "super large Snags", will you maintain or drop weight to favor athletics? Do you have a long term goal?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Looking huge man.. Dinner looks tasty as hell too. I know I don't have to say this but be careful you don't pull something playing tennis. That is the problem with slowing down and still trying to make a play (stretching way out to return the ball)...

great point my friend, very true - thanks

Yes, I remember you saying in earlier logs that your athleticism decreases after 200+ lbs BW. Been following and wondering why you're moving up to this high weight competition in sacrifice for tennis speed and agility. Curious, When you get your pro card, as "super large Snags", will you maintain or drop weight to favor athletics? Do you have a long term goal?

mmm 200 is my normal carrying weight (195-200 range); it's actually 210-215 where my athleticism suffers -- which is where I am at right now

the end goal is to add muscle and overall size, and win a pro card; all else (athletic-wise) is secondary to that..where I go from there is TBD but I think this sport may be my future -- much as I love tennis, it certainly holds no future for me

 

[kenpoengineer]

Understand. With this new resolve of yours, you are going to be huge. Fellows competitors, move out of the way because something large comes your way! Good lifting and we all know you can do this hands down Snags!

 

[snagencyV2.0]

something large comes your way!

yeah -- my meals :lol:

so today, plan is to take cals to 6000-6100 (prolly on the higher side), carbs should be 825-875ish, protein ~425, fats 120ish/125 tops
guys who follow me know I typically like to have breakfast & dinner be my two largest meals of the day, breakfast because it also doubles as my preWO meal; and dinner just because it's my last true food feeding of the day and I follow with only shake until sleep, plus it just makes intellectual sense to have a large dinner....the breakfast being large due to doubling as preWO meal is not so important when i'm consuming preWO shake of wms+isolate, but still something I like to structure in a certain way

so - I figured i'd put a nice chunk of the extra cals at breakfast...
that said: breakfast went above & beyond this morning, came in ~1220cals, 165g carbs mammoth
featured such good things as 5oz steak, 1/2c steel-cut oats, serving oatmeal squares cereal, 1c almond milk, 1c raspberries, slice of pineapple, scoop of whey -- and a pop-tart ahahaaa

 

[snagencyV2.0]

absolutely fantastic training session this day - it was pretty intense :aargh:

I guess I should touch a bit on training parameters, so let me regress.. first, let me say that - after a stim break - I brought back a preWO energy matrix this day...Stimul8 baby, and boy oh boy was I stimulated LOL..feelsgoodman

so was chesticles and abs; i'm keeping things very basic, not many tricks but intelligent maneuvers where I see fit...set tempos have been slowed, yet still explosive (but controlled!) in the concentric portion of the lift, tension on the muscle thruout entire movement....rest periods ~2min most of the time, tho I may take 2.5min or even 3min on legs some days
format today was like so:

4x weighted decline sit-ups
2x flat crunches, non-weighted, max reps

incline DB
5x12/10/8/8/8
*last 3 sets of these were done with 125 DBs, I mean I was just mauling these things like baby rattles

flat bench BB
4x8
*mid-grip, to middle of chest

decline BB
3x10/8/6
*I rarely do these, and they have to be done just perfectly to really make them worthwhile
wide-grip, to top of chest/bottom of neck

and that was that
of course there was 7.5min warm-up & same cooldown, on treadmill

then ran thru the postWO shake, and ~40min later had this big tastiness:

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2 servings mac & cheese+1/2 TBS butter+can chunk tuna
1c raisin bran+1 scoop whey+1/2c almond milk+1/2c water
1000cals, 145/70/17

so at that point, with breakfast+postWO meal, and pre/postWO shakes, carbs are sitting ~435, which would be about 1/2 my daily allotment of carbs scheduled for today -- a perfect ratio

you know I was thinking, as I adapt and get used to eating all this food, it's really gonna suck when I go back down to lower cals & carbs :sad: gonna be period of adjustment, that's for sure