No, its not.Funny thing is the negativity is from the same group of individuals and their groupies......
No, its not.Funny thing is the negativity is from the same group of individuals and their groupies......
:toofunny: lol on I know eveyone love the Celorza, maybe when you join up it has all gone down the hill:toofunny:. Am only joking Celorza I love how you are always speaking from the heart and too also trying to became better all the time.Meh...I love the science going around...but even from me, who was a major idiot some months back, I know the cycle of negativism is still on going and should stop ! Would love the supportive, nice, amiable AM I met when I joined!
Stats speak for themselvesIt happens when you grow.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/content/anabolicminds-com-media-4070/
But that doesn't mean I have to let it happen
i didn't put in an app to log pf3, but if the logs look good i will buy some....and if they don't i won't.I think there's a lot to be lost for some companies if our protein makes theirs unnecessary. That might explain some of the negativity today. We're proud of our product and will defend it getting run down before a scoop has even hit a consumer's mouth.
I know right it's even hard to try a different theme or attitude because people are so fixed on the past, or their posses that they don't like anything that's not posted by the people they already know and accept...heck I remember my very first posts here in AM everyone welcomed me gladly, and true even when I messed up and all I still just wanted (and want to) stick around and keep learning and supporting as much as I can together with people sadly...yeah, I feel the pessimistic attitude Admin mentions is gonna be hard to deal with...Funny thing is the negativity is from the same group of individuals and their groupies......
Not sure if sarcasm ¬¬' but I AM an emotional child in a 22 y.o. body haha...just trying new things. Life teaches yah hard lessons when it slams you on the ground so you learn to humble up...:toofunny: lol on the big time I know eveyone gotta love the Celorza, maybe when you join up it has all gone down the hill:toofunny:. Am only joking Celorza I love how you are always speaking from the heart and also trying to became better all the time.
ehhhhh, mr wizard is betteri didn't put in an app to log pf3, but if the logs look good i will buy some....and if they don't i won't.
i am not bill nye the science guy, i need to hear people i trust tell me it works and what it does.......this means more to me than all of the scientific bullsheit.
No not at all sarcasm just some little joking on the friendly way. Am rooting for you Celorza.Not sure if sarcasm ¬¬' but I AM an emotional child in a 22 y.o. body haha...just trying new things. Life teaches yah hard lessons when it slams you on the ground so you learn to humble up...
maybe...but doesn't rhyme!!!!ehhhhh, mr wizard is better
I can confirm they haven't.I still think they hired someone from cell tech to market this lol
I agree with this. My vote is also 4 tubs deep now into Bio Gro since the first tub impressed me quite a bit. LoL. PF3 might get my votes as well if my first curiosity purchase turns out to be positive. The joy of trying out new supplements.I suppose ill play nicer in the future. Lets not forget though, that some of the post productive discussions have come out of healthy skepticism. This isn't directed towards MAN...I haven't liked the bioactive peptide advertising since Bio Gro several months ago. And that's nothing against Isatori either...it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works. Anyone can "try" something, but you truly make your vote when you make a repeat purchase. So that is indeed what I'll follow
Hoping not to get a banning here... many sites am I member on BB- anit-age- general health most people on are all from Europe taking themselves on the so seriously making fun of American doctors as they are not know which of the ends is up, on about American sites like here about only shilling but they are missing on the boat when it comes to being yourself and having some little fun. So hoping coop nor others will lose on the desire for seeking out truth even to taking a hit on the popularity charts.I suppose ill play nicer in the future. Lets not forget though, that some of the post productive discussions have come out of healthy skepticism. This isn't directed towards MAN...I haven't liked the bioactive peptide advertising since Bio Gro several months ago. And that's nothing against Isatori either...it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works. Anyone can "try" something, but you truly make your vote when you make a repeat purchase. So that is indeed what I'll follow
Having been in your position many years ago, I also found out several times they simply are wrong. Its an industry in which your PhD's and the intellectual community frowns upon.it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works.
Especially at an introductory price. If the feedback gets better, you'll regret having to pay a higher price for it!I agree with this. My vote is also 4 tubs deep now into Bio Gro since the first tub impressed me quite a bit. LoL. PF3 might get my votes as well if my first curiosity purchase turns out to be positive. The joy of trying out new supplements.
:cheers: the phd's should be more concerned with all of the recalls in the pharma industry, imo.Having been in your position many years ago, I also found out several times they simply are wrong. Its an industry in which your PhD's and the intellectual community frowns upon.
The reality is, there isn't a company out there that doesn't have questionable marketing. People take a leap of faith whether on the developer side or consumer side. Some more than others.
That's the nice Cybear I know and wuv <3 , now send me nudes and the cycle of pessimism will be over! You know, good karma and all that going around !I suppose ill play nicer in the future. Lets not forget though, that some of the post productive discussions have come out of healthy skepticism. This isn't directed towards MAN...I haven't liked the bioactive peptide advertising since Bio Gro several months ago. And that's nothing against Isatori either...it's just tough for me to say nothing when what I learn from bright minds, not in forums but real PhDs, goes against an advertising claim. But I'll be more open minded from now on and let the people decide what works. Anyone can "try" something, but you truly make your vote when you make a repeat purchase. So that is indeed what I'll follow
Haha nice I love when people bring irrelevant topics into conversation in attempt to prove a point. That steroidal AI you have a boner for started out in pharma. I have nothing vested in that industry either I trust them as much as our government.:cheers: the phd's should be more concerned with all of the recalls in the pharma industry, imo.
You've been around for a while bro. I think what Admin, and some of us, referred to is not directly the skepticism (in the light of negativism, which it really isn't) but the negativism that has taken a dark cloud over AM where members are shunning one another, or acting like detectives to find who posted what, when or where or even why...I guess AM used to be more welcoming before, at least it was when I joined.Haha nice I love when people bring irrelevant topics into conversation in attempt to prove a point. That steroidal AI you have a boner for started out in pharma. I have nothing vested in that industry either I trust them as much as our government.
The supplement industry is also taking some heat too for spiked products and has recalls as well so I'm not sure what point you are trying to convey.
I think the negativity is deserved honestly. Companies are spending more money on marketing than ever and are constantly trying to one up each other and this is the root of the negativity. Companies are making more absurd claims than ever before and have practically no evidence to support their claims. People spend a lot of money thinking they will reap the benefits of the next great product and are constantly let down, not always but the majority of the time. Skepticism is necessary for growth and without it I would have blown way too much money on BS. Companies are making bolder claims that the supplements they sell can just not hold up to and people are getting discouraged which in turn breeds negativity. It isn't enough to stop people to keep looking for that magic pill but the smarter people on this board realize that. We are consuming things now which will impact our health now and in the future, sorry if I want a little evidence or science backing it, sorry if I'm cautiously optimistic, sorry I'm not ignorant enough to trust every word a salesmen spews from his mouth which is then relayed by reps.
I love Celorza is too funny plus entertaining but with some philosophical thrown in on the mix lol..I know when I took Glutamine a long time ago, I could swear I recovered faster. Even if I didn't, if it was placebo, did it not help? It did ! .
Actually companies are spending less on marketing and looking more towards online than ever. Its cheaper and more effective IMO.Haha nice I love when people bring irrelevant topics into conversation in attempt to prove a point. That steroidal AI you have a boner for started out in pharma. I have nothing vested in that industry either I trust them as much as our government.
The supplement industry is also taking some heat too for spiked products and has recalls as well so I'm not sure what point you are trying to convey.
I think the negativity is deserved honestly. Companies are spending more money on marketing than ever and are constantly trying to one up each other and this is the root of the negativity. Companies are making more absurd claims than ever before and have practically no evidence to support their claims. People spend a lot of money thinking they will reap the benefits of the next great product and are constantly let down, not always but the majority of the time. Skepticism is necessary for growth and without it I would have blown way too much money on BS. Companies are making bolder claims that the supplements they sell can just not hold up to and people are getting discouraged which in turn breeds negativity. It isn't enough to stop people to keep looking for that magic pill but the smarter people on this board realize that. We are consuming things now which will impact our health now and in the future, sorry if I want a little evidence or science backing it, sorry if I'm cautiously optimistic, sorry I'm not ignorant enough to trust every word a salesmen spews from his mouth which is then relayed by reps.
Or perhaps will they be reliving their days of glory when some great battles were they havingThe reps will look back 5-10 years form now and realize how much time they spent fighting over.....supplements....and realize just how much energy they wasted.
No, they won't..especially the ones that get sued for what they post on a forum.Or perhaps will they be reliving their days of glory when some great battles were they having
my wife is a lawyer so having it up to there with her relating to me the stories on her day I will not want to be hearing more on that one for now I hope.No, they won't..especially the ones that get sued for what they post on a forum.
Never mind, it's the same spiel as Bio-gro...active IGF-1 and other growth factors and peptides. But these peptides all get hydrolyzed in the gut and are too large for jejunel transporters, so most of it will be absorbed and broken down into...2.6g of amino acids. The exceptions are neonates, people with Crohn's disease, and marathon runners, all of which have either leaky guts or severe immunological deficits
Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and lovingHaving been in your position many years ago, I also found out several times they simply are wrong. Its an industry in which your PhD's and the intellectual community frowns upon.
The reality is, there isn't a company out there that doesn't have questionable marketing. People take a leap of faith whether on the developer side or consumer side. Some more than others.
In Crohn's disease, tight junctions are faulty or absent, resulting in flux of large molecules that normally aren't absorbed by enterocytes. This is not a good thingCould you explain further for people with Crohn's disease please?
coop saves Americas some ten millions a year on rooting out some issues before heading on for the doctors.In Crohn's disease, tight junctions are faulty or absent, resulting in flux of large molecules that normally aren't absorbed by enterocytes. This is not a good thing
No medical advice was given this daycoop saves Americas some ten millions a year on rooting out some issues before heading on for the doctors.
My anus...i mean account tickets still remember when he was last on cycle !Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving
I laughed.Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving
Amen admin. I can tell when you're off cycle because you're logical and loving
You recently had kids?Kids are humbling
In Crohn's disease, tight junctions are faulty or absent, resulting in flux of large molecules that normally aren't absorbed by enterocytes. This is not a good thing
Yes. Two in last 4 years.You recently had kids?
For some reason, I always assumed you have had children for a good while....
coop saves Americas some ten millions a year on rooting out some issues before heading on for the doctors.
Thanks, I try to humble peopleKids are humbling
Maybe it's the way I mentioned it! It is my intention to go into it early next year. I have not kept logs, perhaps mistakenly, because I had surgery a while ago and couldn't train properly and lost a good deal of strength. Perhaps it's my shame for losing physique and strength goals, but bdcc has mentioned that I do have to keep accountability and has been amazing in supporting me with motivation. I should start an accountability log hehe.Celorza, you compete USAPL? (I wonder mostly because you specifically mentioned USAPL)
I remember, back in the day, you had just started PLing but you don't seem to keep logs anymore so I don't know if you still do.
110%. I seriously (seriously) hope no one ever construes anything as medical advice over the internet. Without a patient history and physical exam (which can uncover 95% of diagnoses in primary care), we're just talking about pathophysiology in general terms (as I was with Crohn's).Regardless of what coop says I still think people should find a reliable doc that they can go too. No offense coop but my gastroenterologist can stick his finger up my arse and you can't. Hahaha.
Thanks, I try to humble people
I think he is kinda in it for the thrill of it brother...I had not known a gastro that liked sticking fingers up asses hahaha. A urologist however, yeah.Regardless of what coop says I still think people should find a reliable doc that they can go too. No offense coop but my gastroenterologist can stick his finger up my arse and you can't. Hahaha.
:toofunny:coop will not have a responding on that one to bet 10 on 1 forRegardless of what coop says I still think people should find a reliable doc that they can go too. No offense coop but my gastroenterologist can stick his finger up my arse and you can't. Hahaha.
Looked into any other feds?Maybe it's the way I mentioned it! It is my intention to go into it early next year. I have not kept logs, perhaps mistakenly, because I had surgery a while ago and couldn't train properly and lost a good deal of strength. Perhaps it's my shame for losing physique and strength goals, but bdcc has mentioned that I do have to keep accountability and has been amazing in supporting me with motivation. I should start an accountability log hehe.
But to directly answer it, no James, not yet I will however do everything I can to do so. Someone very dear to me passed away and I will dedicate any place I get (even if it's not a winning place) to him and his faith he had in me.
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