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Can any two be Stacked together? Ultra and trenstane
 
Attention Loggers:

I know about 6 packages went out and some of you may have it already.. please post a link to your logs here once the are up for us to follow.. If you can't link it up PM me and I'll do t for you.. Enjoy fella's can't wait to see your progress..
 
Caz is a hot commodity! Glad you found a new home bud. :p
 
Gotta love this log op. So many "you're ins" going around its like freaking Christmas.
So much better than when a company says they need one logger.
 
So I'm guessing ultra drol is good but not for contest. I will get my link up today.
 
djbombsquad said:
So I'm guessing ultra drol is good but not for contest. I will get my link up today.
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It should be great for a bulk but contest prep it more then likly is not the compound you want and if you do go with it make sure you pick up some strong liver care products with TUDCA in it.
 
harbonah said:
It should be great for a bulk but contest prep it more then likly is not the compound you want and if you do go with it make sure you pick up some strong liver care products with TUDCA in it.
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From firsthand experience with Msten (NOT contest prep) I can say that your diet/routine REALLY influences results on Msten, just like Sdrol. I got so vascular it was insane on Methylsten, & dropped a good % of bodyfat without even trying. Zero bloat as it doesn't aromatize, & muscles were round-the-clock pumped with glycogen. Awesome stuff. I got leaner, fuller, more vascular & added several lbs of lbm simultaneously.

There are certainly many proven prep compounds you would have a safer bet with, but if your carbs are in check & cals are under maint you could definitely use it pre-contest to look crazy full & vascular. Not gonna get the thinner skin/hardening of say Epistane, but Msten could work IMO.

And you are SO right with the TUDCA; at 1g/day of Tudca on 24mg of Msten I was still peeing light orange (lots of Talos & tons of water too obv). It demands good liver support. 750mg e/d is the research-backed sweet spot for Tudca btw. 1g was diminishing returns.
 
Hyde said:
From firsthand experience with Msten (NOT contest prep) I can say that your diet/routine REALLY influences results on Msten, just like Sdrol. I got so vascular it was insane on Methylsten, & dropped a good % of bodyfat without even trying. Zero bloat as it doesn't aromatize, & muscles were round-the-clock pumped with glycogen. Awesome stuff. I got leaner, fuller, more vascular & added several lbs of lbm simultaneously.

There are certainly many proven prep compounds you would have a safer bet with, but if your carbs are in check & cals are under maint you could definitely use it pre-contest to look crazy full & vascular. Not gonna get the thinner skin/hardening of say Epistane, but Msten could work IMO.

And you are SO right with the TUDCA; at 1g/day of Tudca on 24mg of Msten I was still peeing light orange (lots of Talos & tons of water too obv). It demands good liver support. 750mg e/d is the research-backed sweet spot for Tudca btw. 1g was diminishing returns.
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The possibility of bloat is not from conversion to estrogen with this compound its that it inhibits "11-beta hydroxylase and builds up mineralcorticoids that should increase water and sodium". Diet as Hyde pointed out is key in a cut or bulk but with contest prep the issue of water comes up so watch your salt intake if you try to use this in contest prep.

Per Anabolic Pharmacology
Seth Roberts
 
harbonah said:
The possibility of bloat is not from conversion to estrogen with this compound its that it inhibits "11-beta hydroxylase and builds up mineralcorticoids that should increase water and sodium". Diet as Hyde pointed out is key in a cut or bulk but with contest prep the issue of water comes up so watch your salt intake if you try to use this in contest prep.

Per Anabolic Pharmacology
Seth Roberts
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This was also definitely true, for me anyway. Back pumps I could control, but if my sodium intake was higher cramps were almost inevitable, even on tons of electrolytes, 4 servings of 5g taurine daily, & lots of water. Msten cranked my bp thru the roof anyway; if I run it again I'll be watching my sodium on cycle.
 
double s said:
Be curious to see what PCT people will be running. Education is power!
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For stenzine im goin..
Torem 60/60/60/60
Clomid 25/25/25/25
PNI Paragon 0/2/2/2/2
IGF lr3 100/100/100/100

Dermacrine on cycle
 
double s said:
Be curious to see what PCT people will be running. Education is power!
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I'll be going:

Clomid
50/50/50/50
DAA (probably dpol)
3/3/3/3/3/3
Erase
3/2/2/1/1/1

And maybe throw in some random stuff I want to try at the time. I'm curious about X-Gels during PCT... Or low dose SARMS. So many options...
 
Apparently, even low-dosed SARMs may aggravate gyno to some degree....& as they are definitely mildly suppressive they might make recovery in PCT a bit tougher. They sound like they're better for on cycle or outside of PCT.
 
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