What is your favorite cheat meal?

Gw44 said:
The lady totally freaked out, I took out 132. 18 year old metabolism.
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After 40-50 wings its a law of diminshing returns.
Now your probably going to fast a whole day and your 18. over 50 alone is a binge bro. Use some common sense and portion control

Eat and move on brother.. your young and growing just eat eat eat...
 
threeFs said:
OMFG
I need to know about this. Crock pot? Smoker? What kind of BBQ sauce?
And -1 for no slaw but that's OK I guess
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Crock Pot, take a huge pork shoulder and throw in there for 6-8 hours with seasonings and marinade (BBQ Sauce) it will just pull apart on its own.

toss in a bowl and rip the rest with your hands.

Slaw sucks.. had it once and i hated it, had to eat a pound of it for an eating contest, never again.
 
The Solution said:
Crock Pot, take a huge pork shoulder and throw in there for 6-8 hours with seasonings and marinade (BBQ Sauce) it will just pull apart on its own.

toss in a bowl and rip the rest with your hands.

Slaw sucks.. had it once and i hated it, had to eat a pound of it for an eating contest, never again.
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My favorite thread ever.
 
That was like Afew times that the one time a day thing happened. Like I had to eat all my food cause I wouldn't have a chance to eat later in the day. And no, it's not gonna be pretty at all later on.
 
Low carb chicken and eggplant meatloaf. Tastes way better then it looks.

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Thx Demgluetz. Been over 10 yrs now. A few fav's would have to be: Stiff-Leg Deads, Feet 2gether presses, Every aspect of Lunges and of course Squats. Start a new thread if u wanna chat buds!

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Shells are a certain Fav!!!
 
The Solution said:
Sour gummy worms in Dirt..
Best dessert ever.
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Reminds me of a special at a local ice cream shop here, all made in house and delicious. The dirt cup, chocolate ice cream with fudge and peanut butter layers topped with Oreo bits to look like dirt, and they stick a few gummy worms in the top for effect. I will snag a pic next time I go. Was addicted as a kid
 
That used to be my reward for running the mile I'm high school. Itwas one of the first events and I had nothing afterward. Coma was nice
 
I absolutely hate mustard with a passion.
Ketchup or BBQ Sauce Anyday

Cheat meal incoming tomorrow

PB World Ben n Jerry's, Chicken Ranch Pizza

yes please

Down 12 pounds in 8 weeks!
 
The Solution said:
I absolutely hate mustard with a passion.
Ketchup or BBQ Sauce Anyday
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Agreed. The only mustard I can handle and sometimes enjoy is the spicy kind. Regular mustard is the worst thing ever made.
 
Wait what do you consider regular mustard? Dijon is true mustard, then you have the delicious whole grain mustard. Then you have the American mustard (french's) which has turmeric in it which makes it so yellow.

Dijon is the king of condiments most all sauces contain it, same with vinaigrettes. Plus it's amazing on a hot dog or pretzel.
 
Bigcountry08 said:
Wait what do you consider regular mustard? Dijon is true mustard, then you have the delicious whole grain mustard. Then you have the American mustard (french's) which has turmeric in it which makes it so yellow.

Dijon is the king of condiments most all sauces contain it, same with vinaigrettes. Plus it's amazing on a hot dog or pretzel.
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Love Dijon goes into all my marinades for meat
 
If i taste any mustard (even a small touch of it) on anything i have ever had i had to throw whatever it was away. Honesetly its just too strong IMO, everyone is different i just cannot handle it

Cracking into this tomorrow:

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Milk Chocolate Ice Cream
Peanut Butter Swirls
Cookie Swirls

Oh yes!
 
The Solution said:
If i taste any mustard (even a small touch of it) on anything i have ever had i had to throw whatever it was away. Honesetly its just too strong IMO, everyone is different i just cannot handle it

Cracking into this tomorrow:

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Milk Chocolate Ice Cream
Peanut Butter Swirls
Cookie Swirls

Oh yes!
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Question

How many times do you "cheat" a week? Ive got my bulk coming.. im thinking of cheating twice a week on my high carb days.
 
once a week.
If you have high carb days (Assuming carb cycle)
why even cheat? With higher carbs you can nearly make anything you want.. lasagna, any forms of pasta.. ravaoli.. etc etc..
If you want pizza, use fresh dough, sauce, cheese etc... Simple and easy.

I keep my calories nearly the same everyday (drop 25g of carbs on non training days) and just replace one meal a week with whatever. usually some entree and ice cream.
 
The Solution said:
once a week.
If you have high carb days (Assuming carb cycle)
why even cheat? With higher carbs you can nearly make anything you want.. lasagna, any forms of pasta.. ravaoli.. etc etc..
If you want pizza, use fresh dough, sauce, cheese etc... Simple and easy.

I keep my calories nearly the same everyday (drop 25g of carbs on non training days) and just replace one meal a week with whatever. usually some entree and ice cream.
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Gotcha. Yea i carb cycle. I cheat because i eat rather clean... who doesnt like ice cream?
 
San Diego county fair is here and they have chic covered bacon!! ill prolly eat that with deep fried Oreos and top it off with funnel cake!!! once a year only go big or go home
 
The Solution said:
If i taste any mustard (even a small touch of it) on anything i have ever had i had to throw whatever it was away. Honesetly its just too strong IMO, everyone is different i just cannot handle it

Cracking into this tomorrow:

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Milk Chocolate Ice Cream
Peanut Butter Swirls
Cookie Swirls

Oh yes!
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THE BEST BEN AND JERRY'S FLAVOR EVER!!

Love peanut butter world and coffee Heath bar crunch!
 
tyga tyga said:
Gotcha. Yea i carb cycle. I cheat because i eat rather clean... who doesnt like ice cream?
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What the hell does clean mean?

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"All-or-Nothing Dieting & Eating Disorder Risk

In 1997, a general physician named Steven Bratman coined the term orthorexia nervosa [21], which he defines as, “an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food.” It reminds me of the counterproductive dietary perfectionism I’ve seen among many athletes, trainers, and coaches. One of the fundamental pitfalls of dichotomizing foods as good or bad, or clean or dirty, is that it can form a destructive relationship with food. This isn’t just an empty claim; it’s been seen in research. Smith and colleagues found that flexible dieting was associated with the absence of overeating, lower bodyweight, and the absence of depression and anxiety [22]. They also found that a strict all-or-nothing approach to dieting was associated with overeating and increased bodyweight. Similarly, Stewart and colleagues found that rigid dieting was associated with symptoms of an eating disorder, mood disturbances, and anxiety [23]. Flexible dieting was not highly correlated with these qualities. Although these are observational study designs with self-reported data, anyone who spends enough time among fitness buffs knows that these findings are not off the mark.

Applying Moderation: The 10-20% Guideline

For those hoping that I’ll tell you to have fun eating whatever you want, you’re in luck. But, like everything in life, you’ll have to moderate your indulgence, and the 10-20% guideline is the best way I’ve found to do this. There currently is no compelling evidence suggesting that a diet whose calories are 80-90% from whole & minimally processed foods is not prudent enough for maximizing health, longevity, body composition, or training performance. As a matter of fact, research I just discussed points to the possibility that it’s more psychologically sound to allow a certain amount of flexibility for indulgences rather than none at all. And just to reiterate, processed does not always mean devoid of nutritional value. Whey and whey/casein blends are prime examples of nutritional powerhouses that happen to be removed from their original food matrix.


Use the 10-20% discretionary intake rule and enjoy life a bit.
The 10-20% guideline isn’t only something I’ve used successfully with clients; it’s also within the bounds of research. Aside from field observations, there are three lines of evidence that happen to concur with this guideline. I’ll start with the most liberal one and work my way down. The current Dietary Reference Intakes report by Food & Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine lists the upper limit of added sugars as 25% of total calories [24]. Similarly, an exhaustive literature review by Gibson and colleagues found that 20% of total calories from added sugars is roughly the maximum amount that won’t adversely dilute the diet’s concentration of essential micronutrition [25]. Keep in mind that both of these figures are in reference to refined, extrinsic sugars, not naturally occurring sugars within whole foods like fruit or milk. Finally, the USDA has attempted to teach moderation with their concept of the discretionary calorie allotment, defined as follows [26]:

“…the difference between total energy requirements and the energy consumed to meet recommended nutrient intakes.”

Basically, discretionary calories comprise the margin of leftover calories that can be used flexibly once essential nutrient needs are met. Coincidentally, the USDA’s discretionary calorie allotment averages at approximately 10-20% of total calories [27]. Take note that discretionary calories are not just confined to added sugars. Any food or beverage is fair game. The USDA’s system is still far from perfect, since it includes naturally-occurring fats in certain foods as part of the discretionary calorie allotment. This is an obvious holdover from the fat-phobic era that the USDA clings to, despite substantial evidence to the contrary [28].

It’s important to keep in mind that protein and fat intake should not be compromised for the sake of fitting discretionary foods into the diet. In other words, make sure discretionary intake doesn’t consistently displace essential micro- & macronutrient needs, and this includes minimum daily protein and fat targets, which vary individually. This may be tough to accept, but alcohol is not an essential nutrient. Its risks can swiftly trump its benefits if it’s consumed in excess, so it falls into the discretionary category.

10% Versus 20%

Another legitimate question is why I’ve listed the discretionary range as 10-20% rather than just listing it as a maximum of 20%. This is because energy balance matters. In bulking scenarios, maintaining a 20% limit could potentially pose health risks that are already elevated by the process of weight gain, which in some cases involves a certain amount of fat gain. Conversely, weight loss tends to be an inherently cardioprotective process, independent of diet composition [29]. So, the 20% limit is more appropriate for those either losing or maintaining weight. Those who are gaining weight but want to play it safe should hover towards the lower & middle of the range (10-15%). Another factor that can influence the upper safe threshold is physical activity level. I’ll quote Johnson & Murray in a recent review [30]:

“Obesity and metabolic syndrome are rare among athletes, even though dietary fructose intake is often high, underscoring the robust protective role of regular exercise.”


In the above quote, you can substitute any controversial food or nutrient in place of the word fructose, and the same principle would apply. A greater range of dietary flexibility is one of the luxuries of regular training. Sedentary individuals do not have the same level of safeguarding from the potentially adverse effects of a higher proportion of indulgence foods. And just in case it wasn’t made clear enough, 10-20% indicates the maximum, not minimum discretionary allotment. If someone strives to consume 0% of calories from any food that’s been processed or refined from its original state, then that’s perfectly fine – as long as this is the person’s genuine preference, and not a painful battle of will. I’d also like to make it clear that there is still plenty of grey area in the study of dietary effects on health. As such, the nature and extent of the miscellaneous or rule-free food allotment is a delicate judgment call. In this case, it’s wise to keep scientific research at the head of the judging panel, but don’t ignore personal experience & individual feedback.

Final Note: Linear Versus Nonlinear Distribution

A legitimate question is, what’s the best way to distribute discretionary calories? Should they be confined to a daily limit, or can it be a weekly limit? The best answer is to let personal preference decide. If we use a 2000 kcal diet as an example, a flat/linear approach would mean that 200-400 kcal per day can come from whatever you want, while meeting essential needs otherwise in the diet. Weekly, this translates to 1400-2800 kcal, depending on the factors I previously discussed. One nonlinear option would be to break the weekly allotment in half, where 2 days per week you indulge in 700-1400 kcal of whatever you want, keeping the remaining 5 days relatively Spartan. Again, there is no universally superior method of distributing the discretionary allotment. The same principle applies to the choice of foods to fulfill it. Honoring personal preference is one of the most powerful yet underrated tactics for achieving optimal health and body composition. And that’s the nitty-gritty as I see it."
 
It took me a long time to learn this on my own. But reading that a few weeks ago reinforced that I'm doing pretty OK
 
where 2 days per week you indulge in 700-1400 kcal of whatever you want, keeping the remaining 5 days relatively Spartan.

Essentially what i do. Thats "what the hell it means"
 
When I go on a strict calorie restriction for a few weeks with carbs to a minimum, I always crave anything thats loaded with carbs/sugar. My favorite cheat meal is definitely a cinnamon roll from cinnabon. ****, one time I ate a whole box of six cinnabon cinnamon rolls. It was something like 10,000 calories haha. I get baaadd
 
JoePavino1 said:
When I go on a strict calorie restriction for a few weeks with carbs to a minimum, I always crave anything thats loaded with carbs/sugar. My favorite cheat meal is definitely a cinnamon roll from cinnabon. ****, one time I ate a whole box of six cinnabon cinnamon rolls. It was something like 10,000 calories haha. I get baaadd
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Dang! You ate a box of six?! One makes my stomach hurt lol but they are good
 
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