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Recomp with Epistane / Win50 / Trenazone

drewsicle3210 said:
No, not really. You should be good. Just keep an eye on it and keep checking.
You getting headaches from the high BP?
What is your pulse rate when you take your BP and it is high?
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Mild headaches at times.. the odd 'light' nosebleed...(lasts a couple of minutes at the most).

Pulse ranges 59-71
 
wasme said:
Mild headaches at times.. the odd 'light' nosebleed...(lasts a couple of minutes at the most).

Pulse ranges 59-71
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Hmmmm.. Yeah, just watch it. You are at the high end of comfortable. If sitting for 10 minutes starts to not bring it down to <150 diastolic, it would be time to stop the cycle. In my opinion.
 
Yeah high BP with some nose bleeds is a bit freaky, I'd def lower the doses at the least. Are you still taking a high amount of caffeine and ephedrine?
 
wasme said:
Mild headaches at times.. the odd 'light' nosebleed...(lasts a couple of minutes at the most).

Pulse ranges 59-71
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Try not to freak yourself out before you test man. People have a tendency to do that. I wasn't surprised by high BP with what you're taking. Honestly you aren't supposed to check your bp until a half hour or so after last meal and should be sitting for about 10 minutes. Try and make yourself laugh before testing. LAUGHTER is great for lowering bp
 
JD261985 said:
Try not to freak yourself out before you test man. People have a tendency to do that. I wasn't surprised by high BP with what you're taking. Honestly you aren't supposed to check your bp until a half hour or so after last meal and should be sitting for about 10 minutes. Try and make yourself laugh before testing. LAUGHTER is great for lowering bp
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Thanks.

This mornings readings.. 134/78 Pulse 54
 
Nice!!! But yes I made that mistake as well. Training and eating screw up the numbers for hours

Again grape seed works fast on lowering BP as well well HB has to spike it first and takes longer to lower it. I'd also maybe up your vitamin C and more fish oil as they to help the heart.

However, still not happy with the nose bleeds so keep an eye on it like we ALL have said.
 
Day 38: CHEST


Bench Press:
140 x 15 - under constant tension
140 x 15 - under constant tension
210 x 5
260 x 5
270 x 5
285 x 4
285 x 4

Decline Bench (25lb plates under legs for slight decline):
210 x 8
230 x 8
240 x 7

Incline Dumbbell Press:
65 x 8
65 x 8
65 x 8
65 x 8

Incline Flys:
50 x 10
50 x 10
50 x 8

**Cable Crossovers (slow negative):
60 x 7 x 12

Ladder Pushups: Burnout
Level 1 x 21 (lowest)
Level 2 x 12
Level 3 x 12
Level 4 x 6 (highest)
*10 seconds rest between sets - just enough time to raise the bar.

LISS: 30 minutes on treadmill (3.8/incline 5)

Excellent muscle hardness and pump. Mentally not there though. Had a dosmestic before heading into the garage. Which translates to the mind not on the true task at hand.

Rest day tomorrow.. think I need it.

Go Bruins!
 
Mass Monkey said:
Nice!!! But yes I made that mistake as well. Training and eating screw up the numbers for hours

Again grape seed works fast on lowering BP as well well HB has to spike it first and takes longer to lower it. I'd also maybe up your vitamin C and more fish oil as they to help the heart.

However, still not happy with the nose bleeds so keep an eye on it like we ALL have said.
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Thankfully.. no nosebleed in a week.

I will grab some Grape Seed thanks man.

Lower doses again, I no change tomorrow.
 
Yup domestics are the worst. It's the only form of stress I don't work through unless a competition is around the corner then I have no choice. Better to not run the risk of injury in my opinion
 
drewsicle3210 said:
That is excellent. Are you going to keep your doses low for the duration?
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Hey Drew.

Win50 was 350 now 300
Epistane was 60 now 50
Trenavar stays 1ml

BP all day was 129-144 / 79-83 ... if it stays like that.. those doses will stay the same. If it spikes again, Epistane will go to 40.
 
wasme said:
Hey Drew.

Win50 was 350 now 300
Epistane was 60 now 50
Trenavar stays 1ml

BP all day was 129-144 / 79-83 ... if it stays like that.. those doses will stay the same. If it spikes again, Epistane will go to 40.
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Solid plan. A lot of guys would say fuk it, give me muscle instead of health. You are playing it smart.
 
wasme said:
BP update: 135/76 Pulse:62 and 138/69 Pulse: 63

Things are hopefully looking better...
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Good news! Do you take it right after working out? If you could take it within 30 minutes of working out then that would be good. Exercise generally elevates your blood pressure, just hopefully not too high in your case.
 
I am back. Caught up again. Lifting like a MF'er wasme. Saw your pic in Facebook. Looking good buddy. Probably a beast hidden by clothes.

I am glad blood pressure is stabilizing.

Very consistent an informative log. One of the best. Seriously.
 
I totally agree, wasme is one of the better loggers here on AM, you too Fumoney. Yours was the first log that I subbed when I joined AM, and your detailed intro and subsequent updates are what Used to format my log. That recompadrol and aav2 log.
 
Day 40: Back / Traps


Dumbbell Deadstops:
95x8
95x8
95x8
95x8


Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns: from kneeling position on floor
210x12
220x12
220x12
230x10


MD Pullovers: going for that big lat stretch after some heavy pulldowns.
60x10
60x10
60x10
60x10



Seated Wide Cable Row:
150x8
150x8
150x8
150x8


Reeves Deadlifts: EZ curl bar. Not sure how to add weight to this as the posts are short.
200x5
210x5
220x5
220x5


**Stretchers: stop at the top for a really good stretch
140x12x7


Upright Rows:
100x8
100x8
100x8


**Shrugs (3 sec pause):
60x12x7

LISS: 5km fast paced walk.

GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 
fumoney said:
I am back. Caught up again. Lifting like a MF'er wasme. Saw your pic in Facebook. Looking good buddy. Probably a beast hidden by clothes.I am glad blood pressure is stabilizing.Very consistent an informative log. One of the best. Seriously.
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FU! Glad you are a back in action brother and thanks for the compliments. Just trying to keep up to you!

Would like to see my bp lower but I guess can't ask for miracles when on cycle.

Thanks again.
 
drewsicle3210 said:
I totally agree, wasme is one of the better loggers here on AM, you too Fumoney. Yours was the first log that I subbed when I joined AM, and your detailed intro and subsequent updates are what Used to format my log. That recompadrol and aav2 log.
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THanks Drew.. too be honest, guys like FU and Breezy are in a league of their own when it comes to logging. But there are lots of great loggers, and I am happy to be included in the bunch.
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Good news! Do you take it right after working out? If you could take it within 30 minutes of working out then that would be good. Exercise generally elevates your blood pressure, just hopefully not too high in your case.
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I have been taking it around 10am.. 3.5 hours after my ph dosing and while still fasted.
 
wasme said:
Day 40: Back / Traps

Dumbbell Deadstops:
95x8
95x8
95x8
95x8

Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns: from kneeling position on floor
210x12
220x12
220x12
230x10

MD Pullovers: going for that big lat stretch after some heavy pulldowns.
60x10
60x10
60x10
60x10

Seated Wide Cable Row:
150x8
150x8
150x8
150x8

Reeves Deadlifts: EZ curl bar. Not sure how to add weight to this as the posts are short.
200x5
210x5
220x5
220x5

**Stretchers: stop at the top for a really good stretch
140x12x7

Upright Rows:
100x8
100x8
100x8

**Shrugs (3 sec pause):
60x12x7

LISS: 5km fast paced walk.

GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Strong numbers all around. 140 for FST on stretchers is beast. I had to lower weight on mine when I added sets.
 
fumoney said:
Strong numbers all around. 140 for FST on stretchers is beast. I had to lower weight on mine when I added sets.
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Thanks man. My lats were smoked, felt very pumped. So much so that the stretch just felt so good, yet almost painful if that makes any sense.
 
wasme said:
Thanks man. My lats were smoked, felt very pumped. So much so that the stretch just felt so good, yet almost painful if that makes any sense.
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It does. Over and back superset with 6 ways does that for me. It gets my shoulders so pumped that it literally hurts and I feel like I have to stretch it out.
 
fumoney said:
It does. Over and back superset with 6 ways does that for me. It gets my shoulders so pumped that it literally hurts and I feel like I have to stretch it out.
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Hmmm tomorrow is Shoulders and light chest.. I should try this superset out.
 
fumoney said:
It does. Over and back superset with 6 ways does that for me. It gets my shoulders so pumped that it literally hurts and I feel like I have to stretch it out.
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wasme said:
Hmmm tomorrow is Shoulders and light chest.. I should try this superset out.
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More of a man than I lol
 
Day 41 - Shoulders / Chest pump



Warmup: 5.1km run - Well I have come to the conclusion that running after work, where I have already consumed approx 1.5 gallons of water plus food and with all the PH in my system again it affects my cardio. Got home this morning and ran fasted, and it was a breeze.

Cage Press:
180x8
180x8
180x8
190x6

Arnold Press:
60x8
60x8
60x8
60x8

6 ways:
10x10
10x10
10x10
10x8 - couldn't take that pain any longer lol

** Face Pulls: 2-3 second pause on contraction
120x7x12

Dumbbell Twist n Press:
60x10
60x10
65x10
65x10

Incline Barbell Press: to 3/4 lockout for constant tension
180x8
200x7
200x8
210x8

** Machine Flys:
100x7x12

Standing Barbell Calves:
190x5x15

SS with Ladder Pushups:
Level 4 x 24 (highest)
Level 3 x 15
Level 2 x 15
Level 1 x 10 (lowest)

Was a fine workout today!

I was going to superset my 6 ways with over and back presses but decided to start that in PCT. Yep FU I wussed out buddy...lol
 
Really man you had to do shoulders on day I did them now I'm feeling 1ft tall lol. Killer workout Wasme you continue to Impress the hell out of me.
 
Man, I finally got Thursday's shoulder workout in. Smoked. Nothing as intense as yours, but muscle failure was evident so I'm good with that.
 
wasme said:
Day 41 - Shoulders / Chest pump


Warmup: 5.1km run - Well I have come to the conclusion that running after work, where I have already consumed approx 1.5 gallons of water plus food and with all the PH in my system again it affects my cardio. Got home this morning and ran fasted, and it was a breeze.

Cage Press:
180x8
180x8
180x8
190x6

Arnold Press:
60x8
60x8
60x8
60x8

6 ways:
10x10
10x10
10x10
10x8 - couldn't take that pain any longer lol

** Face Pulls: 2-3 second pause on contraction
120x7x12

Dumbbell Twist n Press:
60x10
60x10
65x10
65x10

Incline Barbell Press: to 3/4 lockout for constant tension
180x8
200x7
200x8
210x8

** Machine Flys:
100x7x12

Standing Barbell Calves:
190x5x15

SS with Ladder Pushups:
Level 4 x 24 (highest)
Level 3 x 15
Level 2 x 15
Level 1 x 10 (lowest)

Was a fine workout today!

I was going to superset my 6 ways with over and back presses but decided to start that in PCT. Yep FU I wussed out buddy...lol
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Killer shoulder work wasme. Ain't no thing but a chicken wing. You got that FST in there. More than enough work for any mortal.
 
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