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The ACE RIPS UP with PES and SS!

Back, power.

Rack pulls, inch below knees
405x3
450x3
475x2x2

Pendlay rows
225x6
245x6
265x6

Dumbbell dead stop rows
150x10
170x6x2

Reverse hyper
140x10x2
210x8

45° hyper
Bw x2x failure

I tweaked my ab during those DB rows pretty bad. Kinda pissed off I wasn't wearing a belt

Stupid mistake, icing it now..
Hopefully it won't be bad for long
 
FUBARMD said:
What's the Stim difference between the two?
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A PES rep will be able to explain it better than I can.

you can check the ingredient profiles out at pescience.com

Enhanced is more geared towards training, alphamine more just about burning fat, but could be taken as a pre

Also, I was planning on doing my sled sprints before work today, but with my ab tweaked, or torn/ herniated, or popped my rib out, whatever it may be,
I cannot do anything high intensity... I was thinking maybe liss, but it's just damn cold out and I should probably give it a rest while this heals.

I made a chiropractic appt Monday, hopefully he'll be able to fix this
 
FUBARMD said:
What's the Stim difference between the two?
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While Enhanced has extras for workout performance and pumps the difference in the stims comes along with the addition of added focus. The Citicoline, nPYE, Swertia and Aegeline all add extra stim and focus on top of the Caffeine and Higenamine that are in both Alphamine and Enhanced.
 
Pants are loser around the waist. been eating fairly big all week, Friday thru Sunday are my low carb days.. We'll see where my weight is at come Monday morning
 
aceroni said:
Pants are loser around the waist. been eating fairly big all week, Friday thru Sunday are my low carb days.. We'll see where my weight is at come Monday morning
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Weigh in coming? Nice!

Glad you are continuing to see results!
 
Read this in another thread "in the first two months of low-calorie dieting, about half the weight lost comes from lean tissue.....over time, this percentage drops from 25%-15%"

Not sure what to think if it. Honestly it makes me never want to cut again
 
FUBARMD said:
I have seen people screen shot it and upload it as a pic. No idea how to screen shoot it though
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I don't have an iPhone so Idk how else to screen shoot it


Also just a note on training, i'm loving prrs so far, my legs and back were tanked for a good day or two after. Chest not so much because due to prior injuries, I couldn't actually go heavy
 
aceroni said:
I don't have an iPhone so Idk how else to screen shoot it

Also just a note on training, i'm loving prrs so far, my legs and back were tanked for a good day or two after. Chest not so much because due to prior injuries, I couldn't actually go heavy
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There is also a way to do I from a computer/tablet. Might have to search around as to how to do it though
 
kbayne said:
Nothing better then waking up to that :D
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Well i shouldn't say lean just yet but i'm definitely leaner than i was and fir sure tighter and drier.

These three low carb days work miracles


I'd say for two Weeks on alphamine i'm happy with how i'm progressing
 
aceroni said:
Well i shouldn't say lean just yet but i'm definitely leaner than i was and fir sure tighter and drier.

These three low carb days work miracles

I'd say for two Weeks on alphamine i'm happy with how i'm progressing
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If the Ace is happy than dang it I'm happy! Killing it in here man. Low carb days work wonders for me as well.
 
aceroni said:
Well i shouldn't say lean just yet but i'm definitely leaner than i was and fir sure tighter and drier.

These three low carb days work miracles


I'd say for two Weeks on alphamine i'm happy with how i'm progressing
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Either way, great to start noticing a lean, tight, drying effect. I really enjoy carb cycling also. I am very carb sensistive so the low days work great for me.

2 weeks on Alphamine and happy with the results and only more and better things are to come :D
 
LiveToLift said:
If the Ace is happy than dang it I'm happy! Killing it in here man. Low carb days work wonders for me as well.
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Thanks man. Things are going well.

kbayne said:
Either way, great to start noticing a lean, tight, drying effect. I really enjoy carb cycling also. I am very carb sensistive so the low days work great for me.

2 weeks on Alphamine and happy with the results and only more and better things are to come :D
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Yeah i love carb cycling.
I'm doing four Weeks alphamine solo, then probably adding in methyl synephrine for the last four Weeks. Not really sure but i might add Abe, ep, and agmatine into the last four Weeks as well, possibly running the Abe and ep eight Weeks
 
Alphamine + Methyl Syn should be awesome for fat loss. I am going to be giving this a try very soon myself. I would highly recommend ABE +EPro. Best natty combo out there IMO. Really shines when you run it for 8 weeks also. I just finished my run with both but will be back on them both very soon for another run :D
 
kbayne said:
Alphamine + Methyl Syn should be awesome for fat loss. I am going to be giving this a try very soon myself. I would highly recommend ABE +EPro. Best natty combo out there IMO. Really shines when you run it for 8 weeks also. I just finished my run with both but will be back on them both very soon for another run :D
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Yeah i just finished Abe ep three or so Weeks ago, so after four Weeks of alphamine I'll have been off them for a good five or six Weeks. I know it says to wait four Weeks but i'm not the type of Guy to be running stuff every four Weeks.

The reason I wanted to add them in is because one, I have them, and two, I wanted to see how they would all stack together, and three, I, look sexy as fuark when running abe /ep at a lower bf%.. Which would be nice for summertime.


But

I could also save Abe and ep and use them later during the winter time for a bulk with intimidate for maximum strength gains.
Maybe even add ara?
Never used ara but I've heard good things
 
aceroni said:
Yeah i just finished Abe ep three or so Weeks ago, so after four Weeks of alphamine I'll have been off them for a good five or six Weeks. I know it says to wait four Weeks but i'm not the type of Guy to be running stuff every four Weeks.

The reason I wanted to add them in is because one, I have them, and two, I wanted to see how they would all stack together, and three, I, look sexy as fuark when running abe /ep at a lower bf%.. Which would be nice for summertime.

But

I could also save Abe and ep and use them later during the winter time for a bulk with intimidate for maximum strength gains.
Maybe even add ara?
Never used ara but I've heard good things
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What do you guys think
 
I'd give ABE + EP + Alphamine a go for the summer cut. Then for a winter bulk look into OG Anabeta + ArA with your Intimidate :D
 
kbayne said:
I'd give ABE + EP + Alphamine a go for the summer cut. Then for a winter bulk look into OG Anabeta + ArA with your Intimidate :D
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^^^this x100! :D
 
aceroni said:
Sitting at 195 this morning, looking much leaner than two Weeks ago.
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So that puts me down five pounds in two Weeks. Not too shabby.
Trained legs today, rep range week

Lying plate loaded leg curl
75 x12
100x9,8,7
Tempo of 2/1/2/1

SSB
245x12,11,12
Tempo 3/1/3/1

Leg extension
140x11
120x12
100x15
2/1/2/1

Donkey calf
180x20,12
180x15-> 120x15
2/1/1/2

Did the donkey Arnold style with chicks jumping on my back.. The weights are rough estimates

The SSB squats with the slow ascent were much harder than I expected.
I took a more narrow stance than usual to take it easy on my hips.
 
aceroni said:
So that puts me down five pounds in two Weeks. Not too shabby.
Trained legs today, rep range week

Lying plate loaded leg curl
75 x12
100x9,8,7
Tempo of 2/1/2/1

SSB
245x12,11,12
Tempo 3/1/3/1

Leg extension
140x11
120x12
100x15
2/1/2/1

Donkey calf
180x20,12
180x15-> 120x15
2/1/1/2

Did the donkey Arnold style with chicks jumping on my back.. The weights are rough estimates
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Wish I knew girls who would do the same for me haha. Lucky dog
 
Macros today so far
Fat 125
Carb 420
Protein 300

Just rough estimates, roughly 4k cals

As you can tell, I did not take alphamine.

I might eat again tonight,I might not depending on when I go to bed

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So I was thinking about Anabeta and alphamine combo..
as of lately I don't take alphamine on high carb days. Just makes it easier. To eat.
what do you guys think about running 6 caps Anabeta on my four high carb training days and then one cap on my low carb days.

then as far as alphamine, between zero and one scoop high days, depending if I'm doing morning cardio or not, then three scoops as usual on my low days.

I like taking a day or two with zero to one scoop and when I get back to am and I think I feel it more
I feel like that would go really well with my carb cycling.

This is all just hypothetical. Not sure just yet if I plan on it yet
 
Whatss reaaaallly gooood ?! In this .. Damn I can barely handle 1 scoop of alphamine.. U on 3 on low carb days .. I would probably pass out/feel dizzy
 
I really don't think there is any need to go above 4 caps per day of Anabeta whether it be high CHO or low CHO. I tried 6 caps once before and never really noticed any difference from 4 caps.
 
kbayne said:
I really don't think there is any need to go above 4 caps per day of Anabeta whether it be high CHO or low CHO. I tried 6 caps once before and never really noticed any difference from 4 caps.
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Thanks for the opinion.

Trained rep range shoulders, little bit chest and holy ****, I've been training like a powerlifter for so long the TUT destroyed me.
Four second negatives on dumbbell military presses.. D a m n

Felt amazing though I miss training like a bb
 
aceroni said:
Thanks for the opinion.

Trained rep range shoulders, little bit chest and holy ****, I've been training like a powerlifter for so long the TUT destroyed me.
Four second negatives on dumbbell military presses.. D a m n

Felt amazing though I miss training like a bb
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I like lifting weight like a PL but..
BB training is awesome and a great change of pace .. Not going to argue there
 
atanocc said:
I like lifting weight like a PL but..
BB training is awesome and a great change of pace .. Not going to argue there
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Yes, the TUT is very different than explosive training.

I've trained like a bb most of my nine or so years training.
The pl style helped me develop dense muscle that body building training cannot do.
I'm thinking after I do a few months of prrs with the rr and s being more hypertrophy related, I'll be bigger than I realize.
 
aceroni said:
Yes, the TUT is very different than explosive training.

I've trained like a bb most of my nine or so years training.
The pl style helped me develop dense muscle that body building training cannot do.
I'm thinking after I do a few months of prrs with the rr and s being more hypertrophy related, I'll be bigger than I realize.
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Yeaa I still squat/bench/dead powerlifting style (low reps/heavy weight) even my bench n squat form is based off it as well .. But since i strted PRRS i would put more emphasis on TUT (still with the high arch on bench/ wide stance on squat). N yes forsure your going to get that rounder/ more defined muscles with the RR and S week
 
atanocc said:
Yeaa I still squat/bench/dead powerlifting style (low reps/heavy weight) even my bench n squat form is based off it as well .. But since i strted PRRS i would put more emphasis on TUT (still with the high arch on bench/ wide stance on squat). N yes forsure your going to get that rounder/ more defined muscles with the RR and S week
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Well I'll never do a slow deadlift, but the slow squats are ridiculous.
Can't bench, it just causes my shoulder too much strain.
 
aceroni said:
Well I'll never do a slow deadlift, but the slow squats are ridiculous.
Can't bench, it just causes my shoulder too much strain.
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Lol I know what u mean .. I'm not going to do TUT for DLs that's forsure.. Lower back wouldnt b able to handle it without busting a disc or something.. But squats I've seen this one where they go down, back up 1/4-half of the way, back down and then back up all the way that's considered 1 rep.. Soo u still got the time under tension for sure.. But without the slow negative lol
 
atanocc said:
Lol I know what u mean .. I'm not going to do TUT for DLs that's forsure.. Lower back wouldnt b able to handle it without busting a disc or something.. But squats I've seen this one where they go down, back up 1/4-half of the way, back down and then back up all the way that's considered 1 rep.. Soo u still got the time under tension for sure.. But without the slow negative lol
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I always squat with a slow negative. The thing I'm not used to which blasted me was the slow positive, that, and pausing in the hole for one to two seconds
 
aceroni said:
I always squat with a slow negative. The thing I'm not used to which blasted me was the slow positive, that, and pausing in the hole for one to two seconds
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Paused squats = great times! Hah got legs today .. Still thinking on how to murder them... Hmmmmmm so many good ideas
 
Chest yesterday, rep range still

Fat man rows 2/1/2/1
Bw x 10,8,8

Seated rear Delts 2/1/3/1
20x15
30x3x12

Seated military db press 3/1/3/1
45x15
50x2x11
40x15

Chest supported scap rows 2/1/2/1
140x3x12

MD high pulley stretcher
3x15,
super set with power rack fat bar pushup
Bw x 30,20,15

These were both done at about 4/2/4/1

My DB presses are incredibly weak, I know this.

I gave up DB OH pressing ever since I hurt my pec tie in / pec minor, and haven't done it since. That was nearly a year ago.

And I'm sure you're wondering, but how are those Delts gonna Grow?

When that injury happened I started training my back twice a week, really focusing on upper back.

My whole upper body blew up from this, arms, shoulders, obviously my back top to bottom and even my chest!
 
Today arms
Started with triceps, then biceps. My chest and shoulders felt a little junky (which is why I don't ohp)
so I started with cables.

High rope pulleys 3/2/3/1
3x10
Fat bar decline skull crusher 3/1/4/1
65x7,7,10
DB OH tricep extension 4/1/3/1
60x7
45 x2x15

Felt great on my shoulders to train arms that light.
The four second negatives and positives are not a joke. I get incredible pumps from small weights. It feels good to be nice on my joints.

Biceps
DB xbody curl 3/1/3/1
40x9,7,7

Fat bar curl 3/2/3/1
65x3x8

DB incline curls with hard grip 4orce attached. 3/1/3/1
15x3x11

The grip 4orce make those curls much harder.

My rest times were about 45 seconds
Enough time to go back to back set for set with my brother
.. Was really nice, pump was ridiculous
rested about two minutes between ending triceps and starting biceps to put equipment away.
 
aceroni said:
Today arms
Started with triceps, then biceps. My chest and shoulders felt a little junky (which is why I don't ohp)
so I started with cables.

High rope pulleys 3/2/3/1
3x10
Fat bar decline skull crusher 3/1/4/1
65x7,7,10
DB OH tricep extension 4/1/3/1
60x7
45 x2x15

Felt great on my shoulders to train arms that light.
The four second negatives and positives are not a joke. I get incredible pumps from small weights. It feels good to be nice on my joints.

Biceps
DB xbody curl 3/1/3/1
40x9,7,7

Fat bar curl 3/2/3/1
65x3x8

DB incline curls with hard grip 4orce attached. 3/1/3/1
15x3x11

The grip 4orce make those curls much harder.

My rest times were about 45 seconds
Enough time to go back to back set for set with my brother
.. Was really nice, pump was ridiculous
rested about two minutes between ending triceps and starting biceps to put equipment away.
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Nice work in here ace!!
 
It's crazy how the four day break from alphamine seems to really refresh it's effectiveness.

Two scoops yesterday at work and I was feeling good


Also what do you guys think,
It says to run alphamine for only eight Weeks, but i'm thinking one tub is going to last me that long, maybe longer. Should I just use the tub till it's gone?

Still contemplating to use methylsynephrine last four Weeks.
Does MS kill appetite?


And a final note, loving prrs.
DOMS have been intense. Well update Thursdays back training later
 
aceroni said:
It's crazy how the four day break from alphamine seems to really refresh it's effectiveness.

Two scoops yesterday at work and I was feeling good

Also what do you guys think,
It says to run alphamine for only eight Weeks, but i'm thinking one tub is going to last me that long, maybe longer. Should I just use the tub till it's gone?

Still contemplating to use methylsynephrine last four Weeks.
Does MS kill appetite?

And a final note, loving prrs.
DOMS have been intense. Well update Thursdays back training later
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Imagine trying it after 5 weeks! That's how it will be for me in May!

MS mixed with alphamine completely kills my appetite. Which is odd because when I use them separately I don't get so much suppression.

I do not suggest mixing more than 1 scoop with just half a tab to gauge your tolerance.
 
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