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IFORCE -Lights Out & Joint-Help in PCT Log

johnny75

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I would like to thank iForce & Vaughn for this Log opportunity.

I am finishing a cycle of HDROL (6week) / Stano (8 week) cycle & will be supplementing iForce: Lights Out & Joint Help into my PCT Arsenal.
My PCT also consists of SERM, DPOL, (Puruslabs), Creatine Monohydrate, Preworkout-Maximize Intense (iForce) & Erase.

The current workout regiment is 4 days a week each day (Chest/Tri's, Back/Bi's, Legs & Shoulders.)
Cardio is 20 minute warmup on treadmill (9% incline @ 3.6 mph) & finish workout with 1 mile jog @ under 8 minutes (except on leg days).

The dosing of Joint-Help will be in the morning & evening @ dinner. Lights-Out is 2 pills before bedtime.

My starting stats:
weight: 287 lbs. (started cycle @ 282: RECOMP)
ht: 6'5"
Training: 5 days a week
Calories: 3,000 (non-training) & 3,400 (training days) macros- 40P/40C/20F

I took my first dose of JOINT-HELP this morning to help my left shoulder which has really limited my workouts. I am unable to push press barbell/dumbells overhead due to this injury. Shoulder workouts have been dumbell front & lateral raises. NOTHING OVERHEAD.
I will be seeing a doctor in the next week or two for this. left elbow joint is aching; bothered by the heavy weights on curls & skull crushers.

Lights Out starts tonight!

I am really looking forward to see how my body responds to Joint-Help & Lights Out.
Thank you IForce!
 
The 1st night I took Lights Out, I was pretty tired & fell asleep rather quickly. Waking up in the morning was not easy, I felt pretty groggy.
The leg workout from that night took its toll on me. Legs are pretty sore. I ate breakfast, took my multi-V, Fish oils, etc... & JOINT-HELP.
It was Saturday, the day I do an afternoon workout. I hit the shoulders, traps & biceps. In the evening I had my 2nd dose of JOINT-HELP
& a dose of Lights Out before bed.

Day 2: Off Day
I had my morning & evening dose of JOINT-HELP. I also had my Light Out before bed.
Joint-Help: No physical effects yet, I have read it takes a week or two to feel its effects.
Lights Out: I felt effects first night, I slept like a baby. No libido or recovery effects as of yet.
 
I'm in man.
 
in :D




and fwiw, you can play with the dosing of joint help a little bit for a more "acute pain relief"...i know one of the loggers has tried this already, taking 4 caps first thing in the morning, and was able to feel a bit more of the anti-inflamitory effects from paractin. then after a few weeks with the cissus you can get the total effect :D
 
Day 3:
Shoulder & Biceps Workout.
Took my morning & EVENING dose of JOINT-HELP. No effects yet.
Also dosed Lights-Out before bed. Slept like a log. No effect on libido.

Day 4: Off Day
morning & evening dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT before bed.
Joint-Help: No effects yet.
Lights Out: No libido effects.

Day 5: Chest & Triceps - workout out was pretty solid. Shoulder & elbow pain still persist.
I increased my dossage as balwanus suggested, take 4 caps in morning.
JOINT-HELP: No effects yet.
LIGHTS OUT: Still sleep good. Libido- no effects.
 
baldwanus said:
in :D




and fwiw, you can play with the dosing of joint help a little bit for a more "acute pain relief"...i know one of the loggers has tried this already, taking 4 caps first thing in the morning, and was able to feel a bit more of the anti-inflamitory effects from paractin. then after a few weeks with the cissus you can get the total effect :D
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I just started taking 4 doses in the morning & 2 in evening.
Would 3 in the morning & 3 in evening be good also?
 
Day 6: Off
I had my morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.
Joint-Help: Elbow soreness is fading. Pain still persists in my shoulder.
Lights Out: No libido effects. Go into a deep sleep.

Starting taking Erase (2 pills) for my AI, hope it doesnt dry out my elbow or shoulder joints.
 
Damn I wish I knew you could log both LIghts out and Joint help.. I'm logging Joint help right now and would have loved to try LIGHTS OUT.

NICE LOG SO FAR
 
WPD111 said:
Damn I wish I knew you could log both LIghts out and Joint help.. I'm logging Joint help right now and would have loved to try LIGHTS OUT.

NICE LOG SO FAR
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i know,im logging lights out and could use the joint help just as much.But im grateful for what i got :)
 
Day 7: Leg Workout
I had my morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.
Joint-Help: Pain still in my shoulder.
Lights Out: Sleep has been great. Legs r gonna be hella sore from squats.
 
johnny75 said:
Day 7: Leg Workout
I had my morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.
Joint-Help: Pain still in my shoulder.
Lights Out: Sleep has been great. Legs r gonna be hella sore from squats.
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glad its helping with tha sleep!
 
Day 8: Off Day
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.
Joint-Help: Elbow still has a slight pain. Left Shoulder still hurting; but my legs still have me walking funny...DAMN SQUATS!

Day 9: Shoulder & Biceps
I had my morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Elbow pain is almost gone now, but the shoulder injury isnt letting me get a good workout in.

Day 10: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Shoulder muscles arent sore (light workout from day before).

Day 11: Chest & Triceps
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Today at the gym, I was on my 2nd set of dumbell press & my left shoulder had a sharp pain.
I dropped the weights & was in pain for bout 10 minutes. After shaking off the pain I wanted to get something in, so I hit tricep pull downs & real light weight on the PEC FLY MACHINE.
Have an appointment with the doctor today to have it looked at....shoulder feeling sore/tender.
 
Day 12: Leg Day
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.
I went to the doctor in the morning & had x-rays of my shoulder done. My bones looked fine, so the doctor is going to consult with Sports Medicine dept. & proceed from there.
No upper body work today (giving my shoulder a rest, soreness) gonna hit the legs.
Sled: 10 Sets x Reps 50,40,30,20,10,10,20,30,40,50
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 30 reps
Straight Leg w/ Dumbells: 75 lb dumbells

Elbow pain is not even noticeable after lifts, shoulder pain is something else.
Sleep has been great with the LIGHTS OUT! Definitely feel that I have had a great rest.


Day 13: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Even on my off day, I am going to take a 30 minute jog around the neighborhood. Gotta stretch out the soreness from my legs.
 
Sports Medicine Dept at Kaiser Perm. has scheduled me an MRI for next week on my shoulder.
I also found out that the co payment is $800 & will total $1450 just for a freaking MRI!
I might have to re-evaluate this.....with the holidays approaching, I may have to postpone my MRI.

I have been taking my JOINT-HELP & it has been helping with the pain.
The LIGHTS OUT puts me to sleep within 30 min. of taking it.
 
johnny75 said:
Sports Medicine Dept at Kaiser Perm. has scheduled me an MRI for next week on my shoulder.
I also found out that the co payment is $800 & will total $1450 just for a freaking MRI!
I might have to re-evaluate this.....with the holidays approaching, I may have to postpone my MRI.

I have been taking my JOINT-HELP & it has been helping with the pain.
The LIGHTS OUT puts me to sleep within 30 min. of taking it.
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glad these are helping you some.
 
Day 14: Back & Bicep Day
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Work out was intense, very minimal elbow pain.
I stayed away from any muscle movement that caused any pain on my shoulder.
Overall a great workout.
Sleep has been great & I am waking up in the morning feeling great.

Day 15: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Day 16: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Day 17: Shoulder & Biceps
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

This day is the hardest workout for me, I have to try to work my shoulders without aggravating my left injured shoulder.
Shoulder Workouts: Front dumbell raises, side dumbell raises, standing cable pull downs. Stayed away from ALL overhead movements.
Im trying so 5 lbs dumbell on overhead press & trying some workout movements (tension band) that a physical therapist suggested to rehab shoulder. He said if my shoulder doesnt need surgey these movements will help. Freakin hurts like hell, but life aint always easy.

Sleep has been great lately & my libido is back to normal!
Elbow pain is gone & I am not having any joint issues from the ERASE. JOINT-HELP must be stopping those (excluding my shoulder).

Day 18: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.
 
Mack411 said:
glad these are helping you some.
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Yeah, the JOINT-HELP is really helping me. My joints really get dry from ERASE during PCT, but JOINT-HELP has stopped all that.
The LIGHTS OUT does wonders for me too, usually have trouble falling asleep from taking my Preworkout late, but LIGHTS OUT has me on the bed out cold.
 
johnny75 said:
Yeah, the JOINT-HELP is really helping me. My joints really get dry from ERASE during PCT, but JOINT-HELP has stopped all that.
The LIGHTS OUT does wonders for me too, usually have trouble falling asleep from taking my Preworkout late, but LIGHTS OUT has me on the bed out cold.
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Wow man, glad you are enjoying both! thanks for the feedback!

Mike
 
Day 19: Chest & Triceps

morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Workout was good, light weight with heavy reps.
Trying to workout & keep gains, without agitating shoulder injury.

I dont suggest taking JOINT-HELP within the same hour you take a double scoop Preworkout... made it tough to fall asleep.
Even with the LIGHTS OUT. LOL. But once I woke up, I felt refreshed like I got a good nights rest.
 
Day 20: Legs

morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Did 30 minutes of SPIN class, then hit sled & squats!

No problem with knees & elbow problem is gone. Shoulder still sore from yesterday.
Did my physical therapy exercises to work it out.


Day 21: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.


Day 22: Back & Biceps
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

20 min. warmup & hit deadlifts, barbel shrugs, side bends, lat cable pull down, & seated rows. Dumbell & barbell curls till burnout.
Did physical therapy work for my shoulder, gonna get this thing better!
Elbow is paint free. Back gonna be hella sore tomorrow.
I love the LIGHTS OUT before bed. Sleep has been awesome.
 
baldwanus said:
pain reduction and better sleep...........glad this stacks working so well for you bro :D
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Thanks baldwanus. I just popped my evening dose of JOINT-HELP right now to help with the pain!
I just got back from the doctors office. Doc moved my arm & shoulder....bastard really wanted to know
the extent of my injury by seeing the pain on my face. He says its a torn labrum. An MRI will tell him for sure.
I have been reading & its going to require surgury.
 
Did you noticed that you dream less or stop dreaming totally?

Please reply to my thread if you have a similar situation: Invalid Link Removed
 
DAY 23: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Day 24: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

This is usually my shoulder day, but my shoulder is still really sore from the doctor visit.
Just jogged a few miles & stretch.

Day 25: Off
morning (3) & evening (3) dose of JOINT-HELP.
LIGHTS-OUT (2) before bed.

Day 26: Shoulder Day
Going to hit shoulders tonight. My shoulder is not to sore so Im gonna work them the best I can tonight.
 
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