Guest viewing limit reached
  • You have reached the maximum number of guest views allowed
  • Please register below to remove this limitation

DMZ/LMG Log. pics

Aromasin and Erase are Suicide AIs. Using both at the same time would likely dry you out too much and also too much AI can decrease gains.
I have read Aromasin raises blood levels of Insulin-like Growth Factor (IGF) and also frees up more test, therefore Aromasin is my preference.
From reading and experience, 6.25 to 12.5 ED is the common dose, unless using high levels of test in the cycle.
12.5 ED appears to be a safe starting point, although suggest pay attention to your joints and nips and then adjust accordingly.
Typically I eventually dry out at 12.5 ED and decrease to 6.25 ED.
Good luck, look forward to some AWESOME GAINS! :woohoo:
 
wrathchild281 said:
^Im trying to get on what hes on cuz whatever it is sounds like it adds in a high level of aggression. I looked around for a section for just logs and didnt find one so i searched other ppl's logs and noticed most ppl put them in the Anabolics section. I hope your gonna be ok with that decision if not i guess im sorry
Click to expand...

well, you must be either blind, or not really looking cause you missed this...

Invalid Link Removed

and the log sub section at the top of this page...

Invalid Link Removed
 
jbryand101b said:
well, you must be either blind, or not really looking cause you missed this...

Invalid Link Removed

and the log sub section at the top of this page...

Invalid Link Removed
Click to expand...

Ur right I found it. Can I pm a mod to switch it over? Will it erase the log so far and lose subbers?
 
grega60438 said:
Aromasin and Erase are Suicide AIs. Using both at the same time would likely dry you out too much and also too much AI can decrease gains.
I have read Aromasin raises blood levels of Insulin-like Growth Factor (IGF) and also frees up more test, therefore Aromasin is my preference.
From reading and experience, 6.25 to 12.5 ED is the common dose, unless using high levels of test in the cycle.
12.5 ED appears to be a safe starting point, although suggest pay attention to your joints and nips and then adjust accordingly.
Typically I eventually dry out at 12.5 ED and decrease to 6.25 ED.
Good luck, look forward to some AWESOME GAINS! :woohoo:
Click to expand...

Thanks man. I will leave the erase for only in pct. so taper off the aromasin a week or two into pct about when I throw in erase? Or stop aromasin cold on last day of cycle.

Since I still have gyno to be worried of developing I'm almost tempted to stay in the 60mg range with the lmg. I'd say if ran it solo I would work up to 75ish range but since I have dmz ran with it I'm sure ill see good results none the less. Is 60mg of lmg enough to get some of the good effects like increased recovery or should I hit 75?
 
jbryand101b said:
im just bustin your balls. if the mods care they will just delete when they find it and all the others.
Click to expand...

This f'ing guy is a real ball buster!!!
 
You would probably still see somewhat decent effects from 60mg of LMG, but I think 75 would be a sweeter spot, and not increase your chances of gyno too much. Never used aromasin, so can't help ya out on that brotha.
 
Question:"taper off the aromasin a week or two into pct about when I throw in erase? Or stop aromasin cold on last day of cycle."
Answer:
IMO stop aromasin cold on last day of cycle, as a real Serm is sufficient to prevent rebound.
Note: I have read the serm Nolva weakens AI effectiveness.
If you run the AI and then stop could turkey at the end of PCT, the SERM is not present to prevent rebound, which means possible post PCT Gyno. Although some people successfully tapor the AI through PCT preventing rebound. But personally I see not much point to AI during the PCT as the goal is to get your levels back to normal ASAP (with real serm). AI is typically only used when an aromatizing compound being administered, which typically is not ocurring in PCT.
I hope that helps.:thumbsup:
 
Have you noticed any hair shedding or scalp itch so far? Genetics show I won't have mpb even past 50+ but I am prone on cycle so I am curious if you have noticed anything!
 
kingcudi said:
Have you noticed any hair shedding or scalp itch so far? Genetics show I won't have mpb even past 50+ but I am prone on cycle so I am curious if you have noticed anything!
Click to expand...

None at all but I'm starting week 2 tomorrow so I'm still early in. I'm not very prone to hair loss. If I notice any ill let u know. But I think it's different for others.
 
Subbed.

I also requested for this thread to be moved into the proper section so hopefully it should be moved soon.
 
I'm excited to see how this goes.
 
wrathchild281 said:
None at all but I'm starting week 2 tomorrow so I'm still early in. I'm not very prone to hair loss. If I notice any ill let u know. But I think it's different for others.
Click to expand...

Ok cool I might just get some spiro on hand just in case
 
kingcudi said:
Have you noticed any hair shedding or scalp itch so far? Genetics show I won't have mpb even past 50+ but I am prone on cycle so I am curious if you have noticed anything!
Click to expand...

I have no history of mpb on either side of my family, so I think I can safely say I am...safe.. from MPB. Finished my cycle up saturday. Saw 0 evidence of hair shedding, and no scalp itching, even with stano @ 800mg at any point during the 6 weeks.

Wrath, how is your cycle progressing so far? Anything noticeable yet?
 
TruthWalker said:
I have no history of mpb on either side of my family, so I think I can safely say I am...safe.. from MPB. Finished my cycle up saturday. Saw 0 evidence of hair shedding, and no scalp itching, even with stano @ 800mg at any point during the 6 weeks.

Wrath, how is your cycle progressing so far? Anything noticeable yet?
Click to expand...

good 2 hear. I start week 2 today so

day 8: weight is floating around 200-202 area. No noticed effects yet. I feel a bit more fullness in my biceps and some good workout out pumps. In terms of my workouts i havent noticed anything that can be seen weight lifting in terms of extra reps or any extra weight though by end of this week i bet that changes.

Just got aromisin in the mail today. Starting at 6.75mg ED from now on. Will adjust accordingly. Any reason to start at 12.5 ED and drop in half if i start drying out to quick or stick with where im at?
 
rambofireball said:
I'm excited to see how this goes.
Click to expand...

thanks man me too. Week 2 started today nothing noticable yet but should start to feel it come one here soon. Contemplating when to bump up dosage. Was gonna bump up from 60 to 85mg week 2 with the lmg but may stick this week out with 60 or possibly half way through. I feel a bit more at ease now that i have some Aromasin on hand.
 
MrMarc said:
Subbed.

I also requested for this thread to be moved into the proper section so hopefully it should be moved soon.
Click to expand...

cool man good 2 hear ur on board. Thanks for helping me out with the thread move. Where in florida do you live? i grew up in brevard county in melbourne but moved out to medford, oregon a few years ago.
 
Q: Any reason to start at 12.5 ED and drop in half if i start drying out to quick or stick with where im at?
A: Steady Aromasin 6.75mg ED should be sufficient for this cycle.
By the end of this week you should start feeling supreme.
 
Last edited:
grega60438 said:
Q: Any reason to start at 12.5 ED and drop in half if i start drying out to quick or stick with where im at?
A: Steady Aromasin 6.75mg ED should be sufficient for this cycle.
By the end of this week you should start feeling supreme.
Click to expand...

Perfect sounds good man and feel good from the aromasin or just from my ph's finally kicking in?
 
Day 10-

(+2lbs) in weight. Just starting to finally feel it kick in though not very pronounced. Good workouts thus far. No increase in gym related strength increases yet. End of this week I expect a full On type feel will come. Will wait till start of week 3 to finally bump up the lmg from 60 to 85 mg. excited and anxious!
 
Day 11:

Decided to bump up the lmg today by one extra 25mg cap totaling 85mg ed. I'm taking one phorce cap in the am with 2 stano-200 caps and roughly 8 hours later taking my 2nd cap of phorce with one stano cap and one lmg-25 cap.

Workout- felt pretty good felt a little stronger incline barbell press. Last set I hit 265 for 4 and felt I could do a couple more. I chose not to cuz I'm following a bench percentage chart and the following weeks will get tougher and set me up good to max out my final week on the cycle. It's for incline and flat but I only will max on flat. Got some legs/back /bi's tomorrow will check back in then.

Slow gains if any so far..maybe that means ill have more attainable gains in the long run. Guess we will see.
 
I didn't have good luck with LMG.
 
wrathchild281 said:
Ya elaborate if u don't mind. I've heard ppl not having good luck with dmz and it being hit or miss but not really with lmg.
Click to expand...

The only bad luck I had with dmz is bad back pumps but that was at 45 mg ed
 
Day 16: (+3lbs so far)

Not going as great as expected at this point although still kinda early. funny because i was worried about bloat with this cycle and now at this point i wouldnt even mind a bloated look.

Slight increase in strength. Most ive hit on flat barbell bench prior to this run was 275 for 5 reps. I got 285 the other day for 5.

Still at 30mg of dmz and 85mg now of lmg but by start of week 4 and maybe sooner i will bump up lmg again to 110mg and finish out week 5 and 6 at either 100 or 125. Will keep pushing hard and hope to have more to positive stuff to report here soon.

Ppl say that dmz can be hit and miss..also i started out lmg for 10 days at only 60mg in worries of gyno but now with aromasin on hand as well as erase im not as concerned and kinda letting a little loose with the increase of dose on the lmg. Thinking these things could be why seeing such delayed non-pronounced effects.
 
Day 19:

Feeling good. Bumped up the lmg to 110mg ed and still on only 30mg ed of the dmz. Also bumped up the stano from 800mg to 1g ed.

Gym today felt good. Great intensity and possibly a bit of strength. Hit rack pulls on my final set with 405 for 5 and felt i could of almost done another 50lbs. I hit legs back and bi's today. Had a nice pump going so i snapped two pics.

Invalid Link Removed

Invalid Link Removed
 
Nice genetics, plus hard work and you look great. No noticeable bloat, decent cut already. Would be interesting to see some before and after BF %.
 
grega60438 said:
Nice genetics, plus hard work and you look great. No noticeable bloat, decent cut already. Would be interesting to see some before and after BF %.
Click to expand...

Thanks man. And my bf before and after this cycle? Well I'm guesstimating I'm around 8-10 when I started and my goal was 10-15 lbs with the expense of an additional 1-2% bf so like 10-12 range but since I've only gained 3-4 lbs thus far in 19 days, I'm pretty darn sure my bf has raised any. My doses are decently higher now and I still have 23 days on cycle left so there's still hope!
 
Besides the Knicks jersey, looks great bro!
 
Just found,subbed!
 
3-4lbs only 19 days in? What brand of DMZ and LMG are you running? DMZ not a hit or a miss, it actual a hit, it's SD little brother lol. EPI on the other hand is definitely a hit or miss just to give an example.

Seeing that you have 23 days left is plenty of time. Need any help let me know.
 
MrMarc said:
3-4lbs only 19 days in? What brand of DMZ and LMG are you running? DMZ not a hit or a miss, it actual a hit, it's SD little brother lol. EPI on the other hand is definitely a hit or miss just to give an example.

Seeing that you have 23 days left is plenty of time. Need any help let me know.
Click to expand...

Sweet man i sincerely appreciate that!

Im using phantom labs phorce which is 60 caps of 15mg/dmz and 30mg lmg. Along with Lgi lmg-25 to bump up the max lmg. For the first couple weeks i believed the phorce bottle may have been bunk as i didnt see/feel very much. Ppl said it was my diet but my diet is pretty solid and hasnt changed much. Some ppl claim they get an increase in appetite but i didnt get that either. This last week i justy finally started to think some weights inthe gym got a little easier but it was very minimal at best. Also havent gotten any bloat whatsoever like this cycle should probably give. day 1-10 my doses were dmz 30mg and lmg 60mg and then day 11-19 dmz 30/ and lmg 85 and just within the last two days my dmz is still 30 and lmg now at 110. Could my lmg doses of been to low in the first ten days to see much affects or would the 30mg of dmz still come through regardless?

Also within the last few days have just noticed a small amount of puffy nips almost to where its debatable if its in my head or if its actually there..I have been taking Aromasin at 6.25mg ED and one cap of inhibit p. Would you be concerned if you were me? I have erase on hand as well as nolva and clomid. Ppl have told me to drop the lmg but that would be quite premature.

Thanks!
 
I looked at phantom labs phorce and it not legit from my research I just did, LGI and the other hands is legit and a excellent company so your gtg there. I'd give phorce 1 more full week "7 days" if nothing changes I'd drop it for the safety of your health & then continue the lmg/stano combo for the rest of your run.

So to answer your question of "Would you be concerned if you were me? " Yes, the rule of thumb is the research the product before you buy to find out if its legit or bunk and then continue more research. I'd be worry if am 19 days in and theres no result.

Puffy nipples I'd wouldn't really worry about unless its sensitive, leaking, or a lump behind it, so if not any of those i'd drop the Aromasin/inhibit-p. The stano will keep dry & hard.

30mg of dmz will come tru no matter what, the max does of dmz is 45mg, there been one or two case where people have ran 60mg but there are either big dudes and or are lucky one the sides.
 
wrathchild281 said:
Ya elaborate if u don't mind. I've heard ppl not having good luck with dmz and it being hit or miss but not really with lmg.
Click to expand...

Potential for gyno, usually works best stacked.
 
2 weeks into my PCT from my phorce/lmg/stano cycle. still +10lbs, and have kept all strength gains. happy with it so far...but reaaaaallllly looking forward to my sd/t-var/stano cycle in the spring.
 
wrathchild281 said:
Day 19:

Feeling good. Bumped up the lmg to 110mg ed and still on only 30mg ed of the dmz. Also bumped up the stano from 800mg to 1g ed.

Gym today felt good. Great intensity and possibly a bit of strength. Hit rack pulls on my final set with 405 for 5 and felt i could of almost done another 50lbs. I hit legs back and bi's today. Had a nice pump going so i snapped two pics.

Invalid Link Removed

Invalid Link Removed
Click to expand...

stacked bro
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top