Slintensity Experiments and Reactions

[Geoforce]

Bump for beer and wine results!

:cool2:

They don't sell booze where you're from? Do your own damn experiments And videotape the results!

 

[mr.cooper69]

Is there any ingredients that actually selectively increase insulin sensitivity in muscle?

No, but few (if any) GDAs can say that.

 

[CaptainSlentz]

No, but few (if any) GDAs can say that.

Out of curiosity, can you give me some examples of the few natural substances that do?

 

[CaptainSlentz]

I mean are there really any true natural nutrient partitioners out there besides exercise?

 

[ms_mac]

Okay here goes - my first experiment with Slintensity:

I was driving so unfortunately I only had 1 Bud Light with my meal - so I popped 2 caps just before we got to the restaurant. About 15 min late the waitress brought us our drinks and a basket of rolls. I ate a roll while I scanned the menu. I should note that I did not get that hypo gotta eat NOW feeling that most people report with GDA's. I have never got that feeling with any others that I have used either...and I have tried just about all of them. Anyway, I order a 9" spinach pizza on a thin whole wheat crust and a side caesar salad. Waitress brings the salad out and I eat that. Feeling good after that, not full at all. Then the pizza comes out. I eat 1 slice and this is where I notice something. Usually after eating a roll, salad and a slice I am starting to get that " I am getting full but Imma keep eatin " feeling. Not so this time. In fact I ate the whole pizza and felt like I could eat a bit more. And I did - ordered the double chocolate hercules cake for dessert. I did eat it all.! Now at this point I was comfortably full - not OMG I am in agony because I ate too much and cannot move full - like I usually feel after a big meal like this.

Today's experiment\dosage:

I woke up this morning, drank my pre and some creatine and off to workout about 20 min later. I followed the instructions on the bottle and took 1 cap immediately after my workout, waited 20 min and had a shake consisting of 1 scoop Glycomyx, 1 scoop vanilla pp, blueberries, UVAB, cinnamon and red pepper. Tasted pretty good. I did notice that slight hypo feeling though just before I had the shake....funny because I didn't feel it last night. Maybe because this was my first meal of the day? I drank this shake and I was really full.....so total opposite of last night.

2nd dose was about 20 min before dinner consisting of a sweetpotato, turkey burger on a wheat bun with mayo, and a garden salad. Did not feel hypo, but again, after this meal I was full...

So there you have it, folks. Will report back with anything I notice

 

[MidwestBeast]

I had quite a few hefty pumpkin beers last night. Didn't feel bloated/full at any point. It was like drinking light beer except it tasted a lot better.

Very nice! I think Matt said he put down 8 Rolling Rocks last night lol. Haven't heard much more than that, yet.

They don't sell booze where you're from? Do your own damn experiments And videotape the results!

Haha! I just very rarely drink, so it's not really in my wheelhouse.

 

[Geoforce]

Good report Ms_Mac! I had similar results. Ate an absolute ton yesterday and didn't have the "carb coma" I'm used to getting after coming off three days of low carbs. Vascularity is increased as well. I'm also using the combo of GlycoMyx and Slintensity in a similar manner to you.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Out of curiosity, can you give me some examples of the few natural substances that do?

Of those in the realm of "known" DSHEA ingredients, Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid may improve liver and mus... [Diabetes. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI You will have to wait for the "unknown"

Btw, is AM screwing up anyone else's spacing? I can't hit enter without it adding directly to the previous sentence.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Btw, is AM screwing up anyone else's spacing? I can't hit enter without it adding directly to the previous sentence.

Maybe you're going to get banned?

lol

 

[MidwestBeast]

Great report, ms mac! The removal of that death feeling after a load of carbs is definitely nice.

 

[houstontexas]

Okay here goes - my first experiment with Slintensity:

Today's experiment\dosage:

I woke up this morning, drank my pre and some creatine and off to workout about 20 min later. I followed the instructions on the bottle and took 1 cap immediately after my workout, waited 20 min and had a shake consisting of 1 scoop Glycomyx, 1 scoop vanilla pp, blueberries, UVAB, cinnamon and red pepper. Tasted pretty good. I did notice that slight hypo feeling though just before I had the shake....funny because I didn't feel it last night. Maybe because this was my first meal of the day? I drank this shake and I was really full.....so total opposite of last night.

Vanilla PP? That must be a strong vanilla to mask the flavor...

 

[dlucks]

Slintensity had a superior effect on the glucometer for me, but SSv2 is my preferred choice simply because the inclusion of Na-R-ALA complements my supplement stack perfectly. You really can't go wrong with either though; an 80% 4-OH extract is unheard of.

I have a bunch of San narala in my stash so I'll start adding a cap

 

[Jorsn]

Will SlinTensity give you back pumps? I just took a cap 30 minutes ago, ate and now my back is so pumped... Like painful. I haven't experienced this the other three times i've used it but I was taking it with an MRP and not whole food. I took in 20g's fast carbs and 60g's of slow carbs so I know I ate enough. The funny thing is usually I feel full afterwards but I feel like I could go eat more.

 

[Geoforce]

Will SlinTensity give you back pumps? I just took a cap 30 minutes ago, ate and now my back is so pumped... Like painful. I haven't experienced this the other three times i've used it but I was taking it with an MRP and not whole food. I took in 20g's fast carbs and 60g's of slow carbs so I know I ate enough. The funny thing is usually I feel full afterwards but I feel like I could go eat more.

What exercises were you doing? I haven't noticed this yet from Slin, but I get nasty back pumps easy anyways especially lower back.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Will SlinTensity give you back pumps? I just took a cap 30 minutes ago, ate and now my back is so pumped... Like painful. I haven't experienced this the other three times i've used it but I was taking it with an MRP and not whole food. I took in 20g's fast carbs and 60g's of slow carbs so I know I ate enough. The funny thing is usually I feel full afterwards but I feel like I could go eat more.

I haven't noticed that in any of the dosings I've had with ST. I'm with Josh and would lean more toward what exercises you'd been doing or if you'd done anything that could initiate that. I know whenever I do the dishes, my lower back starts to get that because the countertop and sink are just low enough to cause it.

 

[jerrysiii]

Of those in the realm of "known" DSHEA ingredients, Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid may improve liver and mus... [Diabetes. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI You will have to wait for the "unknown"

Btw, is AM screwing up anyone else's spacing? I can't hit enter without it adding directly to the previous sentence.

This is very interesting. Thanks for posting the study. What are your thoughts on 250mg TUDCA + 1 cap Slin-Sane V2 as a nutrient partitioning stack for lean mass gains? Also, Patrick Arnold has posted a lot of data on his Ursolic Acid product in regards to nutrient partitioning. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that as well.

I just purchased a bottle of both Slintensity and Slin-Sane V2. I'll save the Slintensity for my next cut.

 

[mr.cooper69]

This is very interesting. Thanks for posting the study. What are your thoughts on 250mg TUDCA + 1 cap Slin-Sane V2 as a nutrient partitioning stack for lean mass gains? Also, Patrick Arnold has posted a lot of data on his Ursolic Acid product in regards to nutrient partitioning. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that as well.

I just purchased a bottle of both Slintensity and Slin-Sane V2. I'll save the Slintensity for my next cut.

The dose of TUDCA used was 1750mg, and even then, the effect wasn't particularly profound. I wouldn't expect 250mg TUDCA to exert any significant physiological effect. SSv2 is great for health benefits.

The term "nutrient partitioning" needs to be clarified. Did he refer to it as a GDA, or a true nutrient partitioner (preferentially sends glucose to muscle over fat cells)?

 

[jerrysiii]

The dose of TUDCA used was 1750mg, and even then, the effect wasn't particularly profound. I wouldn't expect 250mg TUDCA to exert any significant physiological effect. SSv2 is great for health benefits.

The term "nutrient partitioning" needs to be clarified. Did he refer to it as a GDA, or a true nutrient partitioner (preferentially sends glucose to muscle over fat cells)?

I don't recall him specifically referring to it as a nutrient partitioner, but he may have. It seems to have anabolic and anti-catabolic characteristics. Jake from Anteaus Labs did an excellent blog on Ursobolic Acid. I can't post links but is at anteauslabs.blogspot.com

I was going to say that it is not a GDA, but Jake's article shows that it may have some influence on insulin. Truly amazing stuff it it does what some of these studies suggest. The downfall is poor bioavailability.

 

[houstontexas]

WTF is going on here!! On the PC I can't access page 4 at all. It just keeps reloading page 3. I can only look at page 4 on my phone app...

 

[Jorsn]

What exercises were you doing? I haven't noticed this yet from Slin, but I get nasty back pumps easy anyways especially lower back.

I hadn't worked out in a week. I took a week off and was well rested. I haven't experienced it again but I will pay close attention from now on.

 

[Jorsn]

I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.

 

[Geoforce]

I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.

That's a lot of carbs and GDA's! Interested to see what you find.

 

[MidwestBeast]

That's a lot of carbs and GDA's! Interested to see what you find.

No doubt. I hope he's going to the hibachi restaurant and ordering triple fried rice!

 

[BigGame84]

I stacked SlinTensity with Slin Sane V2 last night before workout. I think I am going to try it again tonight.

 

[abformulations]

I stacked SlinTensity with Slin Sane V2 last night before workout. I think I am going to try it again tonight.

When you say pre workout do you mean pre workout meal or pre workout on a empty stomach?

 

[BigGame84]

When you say pre workout do you mean pre workout meal or pre workout on a empty stomach?

40 mins preworkout on empty stomach. 20 mins later took 2 scoops of GlycoMyx with some protein.

 

[Jorsn]

When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.

 

[mr.cooper69]

When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.

No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.

 

[Jorsn]

No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.

I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.

 

[jerrysiii]

When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.

Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.

 

[houstontexas]

No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.

Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?

 

[Jorsn]

Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.

I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.

 

[Piston Honda]

I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.

I threw up in my mouth a bit as I read that.

 

[Geoforce]

My last day of Slintensity before three low carb/calorie days! Boo.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?

You'd get almost no saturated fat in your diet (I'm not talking about coconut-based MCTs, but rather long chain triglycerides). Also, no epa/dha/ala. Also, lack of balance between PUFA and MUFA. In the end, it's all about eating a balanced diet. Turn to just one or two foods for all your macronutrient needs and things can get out of wack longterm.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.

This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story

 

[mr.cooper69]

I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.

I wouldn't take slintensity prior to a pure fat meal, but if you take it with a fat+carb meal, it may even be preferable due to the reduction in insulin levels.

 

[AaronJP1]

This is a nice discussion.
I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.

 

[mr.cooper69]

This is a nice discussion.
I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.

Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.

 

[AaronJP1]

Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.

Got cha. Yeah it is a bit boggling the diversity.

Slintensity had a superior effect on the glucometer for me, but SSv2 is my preferred choice simply because the inclusion of Na-R-ALA complements my supplement stack perfectly. You really can't go wrong with either though; an 80% 4-OH extract is unheard of.

See you're a fan of both.

You did a nice clarification on explaining the difference between a GDA & partioner. Seems like some of these products out there would achieve both goals.

 

[jerrysiii]

This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story

The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.

 

[Geoforce]

Sadly my 4 day Slintensity run comes to an end as I go low calorie/very low carb the next 3 days. Saturday on the carb up I will be right back on it!

 

[mr.cooper69]

The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.

No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).

 

[jerrysiii]

No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).

Since you are more knowledgeable I will not try to debate the issue. My understanding is that fructose is always converted to liver glycogen. From there converted to glucose if needed. I was not aware that it can convert directly to glucose?

Therefore, if liver gycogen is full (given an energy surplus), any additional fructose would be stored as fat. As apposed to starches and glucose which can also be used to replenish muscle glycogen and be directly utilized for energy.

Hypocaloric is a different story as all calories will directly or indirectly be utilized with the net result being "weight" (hopefully fat) loss.

If my understanding is not correct, I apologize. Please clarify what I'm missing. Sorry OP for going a little off topic.

 

[Jorsn]

I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.

Tried this yesterday and almost died.... No i'm just kidding. haha. I didn't notice a drastic difference besides increased appetite.

 

[mr.cooper69]

^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"

 

[jerrysiii]

^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"

Thanks. I'll check it out.

 

[houstontexas]

^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"

Just read an interview with him by Marc Lobliner yesterday. It was definitely a good read.

 

[Geoforce]

What else is everyone seeing in terms of Slintensity?

 

[saggy321]

Will this be available in the UK? If so, when?