I agree. Im a big fan of the stuff. Liked the DTP too but it always made my blood pressure jump up significantly. Either the dhea or yohimbe, not sure which. Been a while since ive used any of their products, tho.
Btw, the S1/S4 stack will be suppressive and i dont think DTH will prevent the suppression. Maybe you are better off running the DTH as kind of a light pct to the SARMs. Just a thought.
It is definitely a product that will make you feel like it's working, due to the inclusions of the primary ingredients: tribulus and maca. However, it won't do much for actual test-boosting.
So maybe just combine bulk maca, trib, and horny goat weed and save some $$?
Have you used it?
No. A basic analysis of the ingredient panel is really all I need. In fact, using it would actually confound objectivity since the main ingredients in the formula are testosterone-mimetics with respect to libido/fertility, so users would be totally convinced that their T is elevated (as is the case here). Great marketing strategy by Diesel Test, but unfortunately quite transparent.
Do you have any recommendations for test boosters. I liked the libido, aggressiveness in the gym and the mood lift that DTHC gave. Is ther a product that gives these benefits and actually increases T?
Im not cooper, but DAA and erase together is the most popular stack on the boards. It does work but the libido isnt on par with DTH for me.
Do you have any recommendations for test boosters. I liked the libido, aggressiveness in the gym and the mood lift that DTHC gave. Is ther a product that gives these benefits and actually increases T?
I ran it awhile back and it was a failure after the first couple days of feeling wired on it.
mr.cooper69 said:It is definitely a product that will make you feel like it's working, due to the inclusions of the primary ingredients: tribulus and maca. However, it won't do much for actual test-boosting.
saggy321 said:Was this the DAA and erase stack? I ask because I started Erase a few days ago and haven't been able to sleep well.
Why not get the best of both worlds?
DAA + Tribulus:
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Alternatively, PCT Assist is prob the best all-in-one product for both libido/alphaness and natural T elevation:
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No. A basic analysis of the ingredient panel is really all I need. In fact, using it would actually confound objectivity since the main ingredients in the formula are testosterone-mimetics with respect to libido/fertility, so users would be totally convinced that their T is elevated (as is the case here). Great marketing strategy by Diesel Test, but unfortunately quite transparent.
Bloodwork showing tribulus increases testosterone? I could give someone on androgel a tbooster and tell him to get bloodwork before and after applications (this has happened before). I prefer clinical trials without bias or potential to fudge results.What about all of the bloodwork done by users (non-sponsored) showing the increase in test?
I just checked my labels of DTHC and found that it contains all of the ingredients in PCT Assist minus i3c plus a whole lot more (albeit in a prop blend).
Yup, but again, I can put a million ingredients in a proprietary blend and call it magic. Look at the size of the blend and the order of ingredients. The more ingredients it has, the worse.
If I take 7 pills a day (bottle will last a month) I am getting 11 725mg of ingredients. Lots of room for good dosages of ingredients there don't you think?
mr.cooper69 said:Nope not at all. If everything was dosed right, you're looking at about 30 grams of actives. The dead giveaway is cnidium monieri being listed midway through the label, which means that at the very least, everything below it is pixie dusted (cnidium needs a very low dose or you get nausea and headaches).
/Label dissection 101
Nope not at all. If everything was dosed right, you're looking at about 30 grams of actives. The dead giveaway is cnidium monieri being listed midway through the label, which means that at the very least, everything below it is pixie dusted (cnidium needs a very low dose or you get nausea and headaches).
/Label dissection 101
Nope not at all. If everything was dosed right, you're looking at about 30 grams of actives. The dead giveaway is cnidium monieri being listed midway through the label, which means that at the very least, everything below it is pixie dusted (cnidium needs a very low dose or you get nausea and headaches).
/Label dissection 101
mr.cooper69 said:Nope not at all. If everything was dosed right, you're looking at about 30 grams of actives. The dead giveaway is cnidium monieri being listed midway through the label, which means that at the very least, everything below it is pixie dusted (cnidium needs a very low dose or you get nausea and headaches).
/Label dissection 101
zendog said:Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't aware that the ingredients were labelled in descending order of mg like that in prop blends.
Nope not at all. If everything was dosed right, you're looking at about 30 grams of actives. The dead giveaway is cnidium monieri being listed midway through the label, which means that at the very least, everything below it is pixie dusted (cnidium needs a very low dose or you get nausea and headaches).
/Label dissection 101
Beau said:What dose of cnidium monnieri do you recommend? I've heard 200 mg to 300 mg per dose, with 2 to 3 doses per day.
It tastes fairly bad, BTW.
Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't aware that the ingredients were labelled in descending order of mg like that in prop blends.
It is definitely a product that will make you feel like it's working, due to the inclusions of the primary ingredients: tribulus and maca. However, it won't do much for actual test-boosting.
Yeah I've used both products, the Diesel Test Hardcore and the DTP a few years ago. Neither of them did anything for me at all. Simple bulk DAA blows either product out of the water.
I've never bothered with any of the DT products. Like Coop pointed out, they are mostly test mimetics with a few vasodilators...which is NOT a bad thing per se, they just can't be said to actually raise T levels. I certainly use many of the ingredients when I want to boost my libido and they work great. I do think some of the mimetics like icariin can mimic test well enough to actually increase protein synthesis. I definitely put on mass while using big doses of Drive, but ultimately that could have been from the forskohlin, which does boost test.
I had taken Maca enough times prior to the release and subsequent popularity of these products to recognize that the rave reviews were all about...being extra horny and angry, grrrr! lol
How did you dose the MACA and which brand did you use?
How did you dose the MACA and which brand did you use?
bioman said:I've used Mountain Rose bulk macs as well as NOW brand capsules...both work well. Usually I take 3-5 grams, 2X per day.
I like NOW's Maca.