Halovar + 1- Andro cycle (advice/suggestiones needed)

[waldong]

Hello all,

background: working out for 3 years, 5'10'', 70 Kgs, 16% BF. have done 3 PH cycles before, (CEL H-Drol standalone, Sus-500 standalone, CEL Alpha 1 standalone).

will be doing a (Finaflex 1-Andro) + (Purus Labs Halovar) 7 week cycle

1-Andro: In caps: 2/4/4/4/4
Halovar: In mg: 25/50/50/50/75/75/100

other on cycle supps will be: CEL Cycle assist, USP Labs SUper Cissus, Omega 3-6-9, Taurine, etc..

PCT will be Nolvadex, Finaflex PCT revolution, ZMA, creatine, PWO, M STak etc..

I am looking to lean out/harden during this cycle. needed some advice/suggestions as below:

- above stack cycle ok ?
- should I take a fat burner too (BP issues? had none before on standalone cycles)
- Cardio advice: currently am doing 15-20 minutes intense cardio everyday. reduce/increase?
- Training advice: Am mixing muscle groups (two a day) and doing 45-60 mts weight training every day, 6 days a week. ok-ish?
- anyone else here done this stack cycle? (pl. let me know effects (both +ves and -ves) etc. to be aware of)

thanks
waldong

 

[j.k22]

I would be inclined to up the hdrol to at least 75 throughout.

Personally 100mg for 6weeks was fantastic for me stacked with 800mg stano. (i think 1-andro is the same active compound. On phone so Cant check)

Gained 4lbs but went from 11/12%bf to 8.
Would run again next summer.

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[waldong]

hmm thanks j.k22. yea I agree about hdrol dosage, but since this is my first stack, so thought to be careful around it. will be upping my dosages though, the cycle now looks as below (starts today):

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[TD]Week 1
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[TD]2 caps
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[TD]50 mg
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[TD]Week 2
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[TD]4 caps
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[TD]75 mg
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[TD]-
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[TD]Week 3
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[TD]4 caps
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[TD]75 mg
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[TD]Week 4
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[TD]4 caps
[/TD]
[TD]75 mg
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[TD]-
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[TD]Week 5
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[TD]4 caps
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[TD]75 mg
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[TD]-
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[TD]Week 6
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[/TD]
[TD]100 mg
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[TD]-
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[TD]Week 7
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[TD]20 mg
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[TD]Week 8
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[TD]10 mg
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[TD]10 mg
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a bit advice on training / diet will be helpful.

// from original post
- should I take a fat burner too (BP issues? had none before on standalone cycles)
- Cardio advice: currently am doing 15-20 minutes intense cardio everyday. reduce/increase?
- Training advice: Am mixing muscle groups (two a day) and doing 45-60 mts weight training every day, 6 days a week. ok-ish?

 

[LiveToLift]

I would be inclined to up the hdrol to at least 75 throughout.

Personally 100mg for 6weeks was fantastic for me stacked with 800mg stano. (i think 1-andro is the same active compound. On phone so Cant check)

Gained 4lbs but went from 11/12%bf to 8.
Would run again next summer.

Sent from my GT-I5500L using Am.com

100mg right off the bat? Seems impatient as you won't even see gains til late week 2 or early week 3 anyway. I personally run 50/75/75/75/100/100. Why cash out your gains so early is how I see it. Subbed to see how purus ph's work for ya, love Hdrol and purus is a great company. Make sure to update please.

 

[j.k22]

// from original post
- should I take a fat burner too (BP issues? had none before on standalone cycles)
- Cardio advice: currently am doing 15-20 minutes intense cardio everyday. reduce/increase?
- Training advice: Am mixing muscle groups (two a day) and doing 45-60 mts weight training every day, 6 days a week. ok-ish?

- Never used a fat burning supplement besides caffeine tabs (200mg) so i cannot really advise you here, other than its probably unnecessary. I did use preworkouts 2/3 times a week and was fine, If your BP is ok and you feel you need it, why not?
I got so lean and dry on Hdrol/stano I'd say just leave it

- I'd keep the cardio, but if you get shin pumps or back pumps during, it wont be easy. I personally wish I done cardio more
standard advice is to do it after weights, or hours apart from as it can mess with recovery

- I trained 6 days a week when I was able to.
Split went along the lines of 3 day's on one day off.

Back/bi's (light/isolation back)
shoulder/tri
Legs
DAY OFF
Back /bi's (heavy back day) (DL's and Tbar rows)
Chest/tri's
Legs
DAY OFF

But I often train only five times a week, usually try to get legs in twice a week. (Calfs EOD)

 

[j.k22]

100mg right off the bat? Seems impatient as you won't even see gains til late week 2 or early week 3 anyway. I personally run 50/75/75/75/100/100. Why cash out your gains so early is how I see it. Subbed to see how purus ph's work for ya, love Hdrol and purus is a great company. Make sure to update please.

The reason I used drugs to enhance my physique/performance was due to impatence.
I've been lifting for 3/4 years natty, and got stuck in plateaus on most of my lifts for a while. Dont get me wrong, I was still gaining, But at 5lbs of LBM a year. I could get 20lbs over 4 cycles in a year. (Only done two this year, No flaming needed)

Done an epi cycle with ramping up doses from 30mg/day. felt by the end that I'd wasted time, should have just started from 40.
This time I wasnt making same mistake.
I also got my halo cheap as Fuuuuuu.

Over on PHF, the some posters advice is to go from 100mg off the bat.

It kicked in around end of week 2/ start week 3, as you stated
The whole "kick-in" thing is not something to gauge as the drug finally working. As soon as the first capsule is in your blood stream, the Hdrol is activating the AR. at a higher dose, it will take less time to reach its peak blood concentration in theory.

I also prefer to taper down into PCT over a week, rather than than the other way around. Just personal preference. (not really advised much, but I think its a good Idea)

One bottle was haloVar, worked well. As for the insulinified part I suppose after large carb meals with it, I felt fuller in the muscles. In reality, I doubt it had much effect on growth, if any at all when opposed to a standard clone. (also got stomach cramps (fairly often), when i switched to CEL Hdrol they left)

 

[LiveToLift]

Not going to bash at all. To each his own. Good input.