M-stane cycle & PCT advice

boofhead14

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G'day All.
Im new to the PH world although I managed to get my hands on some M-Stane (superdrol), which I've already figured out that its some pretty serious ****.
Can any one give me advice on running M-Stane as a 10/10/20 cycle?
Id also be running CEL CYCLE ASSIST 8 tabs per day (4morning & 4 night)
As I said I've never used a prohormone before or steroid.

For Pct I have some Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) on hand as well as CEL. PCT ASSIST & CEL CYCLE ASSIST. How would you recommend dosing these & would they be adequate to get the boys working post cycle & limit estrogenic effects like gyno?
My PCT would look something like this
Nolvadex 20/20/10
CEL PCT ASSIST 4 tabs (2morning 2 night)

My stats are 25yrs old (5 years lifting experience)
6ft1, 90KG 15-16%BF (measured with fat calipers)

The reason, im looking for something a little extra is that Ive been stuck at his plateau for about 12 months and no amount of diet change, or weight room techniques have let me bust the plateau.

Any advice you can give me will be appreciated greatly & be blunt, if Ive missed something important or this is a bad idea say so! Just give me a reason or quick description on why rather than just the usual "first time NOOB" insults

Cheers
 
I'd stretch out your pct to 4 weeks at 20/20/20/20, I assume all your support supps are in order. Most guys on here will rip you for jumping on SD for your first cycle, but you're covered supplement wise. 1 thing to consider though, if you start with SD then you'll be disappointed running any other PH in the future as it'll give you the most explosive gains. Being a 1st timer you're primed & ready to respond so I'd use somthing else besides SD, maybe epi, that way when those milder PH's aren't yielding huge gains for you, you still have SD to step things up...
 
Your gonna want to run both 4 weeks for a total of 8.
Watch out tho... A lot of M-stane is bunk out there...

Cycle
Sd 10/10/20/20 make sure you assess sides
Hawthorne berry for bp support
Taurine for back pumps... Just in case
LIVER SUPPORT!!!

Pct
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Get erase!!! 1/2/3/3/2/1 you need an AI for sd invade of rebound
Daa or test booster of choice... I recommend Dpol it is my favorite and with added Nitrates for insane pumps around the clock. Cheap
 
Can I ask you why the pyramid dosage of erase? Never understood it and there is not a single other AI out there that people use that dosing protocol.

Also OP Aegis is currently one of the better liver supports on the market 1 bottle should cover the 4 weeks of your cycle.

Airborne42 said:
Your gonna want to run both 4 weeks for a total of 8.
Watch out tho... A lot of M-stane is bunk out there...

Cycle
Sd 10/10/20/20 make sure you assess sides
Hawthorne berry for bp support
Taurine for back pumps... Just in case
LIVER SUPPORT!!!

Pct
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Get erase!!! 1/2/3/3/2/1 you need an AI for sd invade of rebound
Daa or test booster of choice... I recommend Dpol it is my favorite and with added Nitrates for insane pumps around the clock. Cheap
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:goodpost:
Thanks everyone. The advice is a huge help. I wasnt in a great rush to go swallowing down all the PH's without doing the ground work first. I always like to know what something is & more to the point, what it'll do to my body & how to minimise the sides before I use anything.
Keep the tips coming, as theres no such thing as not enough knowledge.
 
Krampus said:
Can I ask you why the pyramid dosage of erase? Never understood it and there is not a single other AI out there that people use that dosing protocol.

Also OP Aegis is currently one of the better liver supports on the market 1 bottle should cover the 4 weeks of your cycle.
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It's not necessary but it works! Let it slowly kick in with your serm and you have enough. You can run erase at full dose if you want. Doesn't matter. As long as you drag it 2 weeks past serm
 
boofhead14 said:
:goodpost:
Thanks everyone. The advice is a huge help. I wasnt in a great rush to go swallowing down all the PH's without doing the ground work first. I always like to know what something is & more to the point, what it'll do to my body & how to minimise the sides before I use anything.
Keep the tips coming, as theres no such thing as not enough knowledge.
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Any more help lemme know ;-) I'm.king of sd around here haha I DON'T advise it but I'm on my 5th week at 40. You can catch my log in cycle info. Biggest thread there
 
Thanks Airbourne42.
Do have one question. I've read that the gains stop on SD after about week 3. Is there any advantage to running the 4th week & Im guessing this will also increase the chances of sides? Or does it all come down to the individual?
 
boofhead14 said:
Thanks Airbourne42.
Do have one question. I've read that the gains stop on SD after about week 3. Is there any advantage to running the 4th week & Im guessing this will also increase the chances of sides? Or does it all come down to the individual?
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For me the 3rd and 4th week are the best with most gains. This is a first I've ran a 5th and I'm stacking some weight. I'm up 21 pounds a few days ago 445 max bench to 465X2. I'm wrecking it. Sides come down to the individual... Just make sure you listen to your body closely. I have had 0 sides on all cycles but people have worse. Remember... Look for signs of liver damage
 
Ok. I have everything ready to go, although I managed to get my hands on some EX-tren (19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione – 50 mg).
Does anyone have any experience with this compound? From what I've read, its better to run a weaker PH like EX-tren than SD for a first cycle.
If I did run EX-Tren instead of SD would I need to change up anything in terms of cycle support/PCT?
It almost seem like a no-brainer to start with a "weaker" ph as DeLarone pointed out, although unless I can find out a bit more about EX-tren first, I'll stick to what I know & run the SD, as Im pretty confident that I've researched enough to run it safely.
If I did run a EX-tren cycle I'd go for something like this;
week 1 - 50mg per day (25mg morning/night) mainly to assess how I react to tren
week 2 - 100mg per day (50mg morning/night)
week 3 - 100mg per day (50mg morning/night)
week 4 - 100mg per day (50mg morning/night)

Unless theres something else I should know Id run virtually the same PCT as recommended above;
Cycle
Sd 10/10/20/20 make sure you assess sides
Hawthorne berry for bp support
Taurine for back pumps... Just in case
LIVER SUPPORT!!!

Pct
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Get erase!!! 1/2/3/3/2/1 you need an AI for sd invade of rebound

Any Input?
 
boofhead14 said:
Ok. I have everything ready to go, although I managed to get my hands on some EX-tren (19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione - 50 mg).
Does anyone have any experience with this compound? From what I've read, its better to run a weaker PH like EX-tren than SD for a first cycle.
If I did run EX-Tren instead of SD would I need to change up anything in terms of cycle support/PCT?
It almost seem like a no-brainer to start with a "weaker" ph as DeLarone pointed out, although unless I can find out a bit more about EX-tren first, I'll stick to what I know & run the SD, as Im pretty confident that I've researched enough to run it safely.
If I did run a EX-tren cycle I'd go for something like this;
week 1 - 50mg per day (25mg morning/night) mainly to assess how I react to tren
week 2 - 100mg per day (50mg morning/night)
week 3 - 100mg per day (50mg morning/night)
week 4 - 100mg per day (50mg morning/night)

Unless theres something else I should know Id run virtually the same PCT as recommended above;
Cycle
Sd 10/10/20/20 make sure you assess sides
Hawthorne berry for bp support
Taurine for back pumps... Just in case
LIVER SUPPORT!!!

Pct
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Get erase!!! 1/2/3/3/2/1 you need an AI for sd invade of rebound

Any Input?
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Run the sd... Looks solid.
Pct looks good but add a natty test booster... DAA is most effective. 3g a day
 
Airborne42 said:
It's not necessary but it works! Let it slowly kick in with your serm and you have enough. You can run erase at full dose if you want. Doesn't matter. As long as you drag it 2 weeks past serm
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I don't think it'd be wise to run an AI at full dose at the beginning of PCT. Destroying your estrogen with Erase and Nolva at the beginning your PCT I think wouldn't be that great of an idea. You still need some estrogen to function properly, lol
 
broda said:
I don't think it'd be wise to run an AI at full dose at the beginning of PCT. Destroying your estrogen with Erase and Nolva at the beginning your PCT I think wouldn't be that great of an idea. You still need some estrogen to function properly, lol
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You need to bring it back gradually. Erase will bring it back to healthy levels not stop it completely at pct.
 
Looks good, except run 75mg of x tren all the way through IMO.

DAA as a test booster as well.
 
I'm about to start some m- stane myself 10/20/20/20..hawethorne berry liver supports a must. Just curious why not start something less harsh for a first cycle?
Epistane. P-plex?
 
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