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@androbulk androhard etc....wtf

I have, and that is one of the options. I just see so many different people advising so many different things. And understand, these are message boards where most of this information comes from, and you dont really know who knows what they are talking about and who does not.

Like I said, i am toying with the idea . It would be a nice 36th birthday present.
 
boogyman said:
I have, and that is one of the options. I just see so many different people advising so many different things. And understand, these are message boards where most of this information comes from, and you dont really know who knows what they are talking about and who does not.

Like I said, i am toying with the idea . It would be a nice 36th birthday present.
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cause different people like different things. TRS is a test booster, GH booster, AI basically. so if you wanted, you can find products that fit those categories and stack them for your own version of TRS like this:

Erase Pro + TCF 1 + IGF 2 + Anabeta

even with TRS, i would add Anabeta to help keep the gains and maybe even gain more.
 
boogyman said:
I have, and that is one of the options. I just see so many different people advising so many different things. And understand, these are message boards where most of this information comes from, and you dont really know who knows what they are talking about and who does not.

Like I said, i am toying with the idea . It would be a nice 36th birthday present.
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If you decide to treat yourself, hit me or Ryan up for a discount on the stack and TRS.

southsideguy said:
Primordial Performance is legit; been a loyal customer for years. The Androseries is legit, worth every penny.
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Thank you for your support.
 
Drizzie88 said:
At 6900+ posts I think it's time... Lol but really, thanks for the good info...

So, don't stack Androhard with SD?
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Thank you for the compliments. See comment below.

R1balla said:
just cause you can post doesnt mean you know everything! but HTS knows his stuff!

and i wouldnt stack anything with SD. its harsh enough
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I actually will disagree with this. Superdrol can cause lethargy and lower libido, both of which can be mitigated by AndroHard.

I would consider lowering an SD dose if you are going to run androhard with it.

mylo said:
out of curiosity, anyone tried a high dose of DHEA with and otc AI like erase?

like 200+mg. i've heard you can consume 2000+ mg before it becomes toxic...
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Are you talking just standard DHEA?
 
HereToStudy said:
I actually will disagree with this. Superdrol can cause lethargy and lower libido, both of which can be mitigated by AndroHard.

I would consider lowering an SD dose if you are going to run androhard with it.
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Something like:

SD 10/10/10/10
AH x/x/x/x/x/x?
UDCA 250/250/250/250/250/250...preloaded

PCT

Pharmagrade Nolva
Formastanazol
Fadogia
Toco-8
 
R1balla said:
cause different people like different things. TRS is a test booster, GH booster, AI basically. so if you wanted, you can find products that fit those categories and stack them for your own version of TRS like this:

Erase Pro + TCF 1 + IGF 2 + Anabeta

even with TRS, i would add Anabeta to help keep the gains and maybe even gain more.
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I understand all that. I did and have been doing research. But I also see a whole lot of people using clomid, torem, nolva ect. Others say its not needed. Would a safe route be to use the TRS only, but have a SERM on hand just in case?
 
HereToStudy said:
Thank you for the compliments. See comment below.



I actually will disagree with this. Superdrol can cause lethargy and lower libido, both of which can be mitigated by AndroHard.

I would consider lowering an SD dose if you are going to run androhard with it.



Are you talking just standard DHEA?
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since AH is LV and bypasses the liver you could, but personally i wont ever take SD again so the thought of adding something to it just freaks me out!
 
boogyman said:
I understand all that. I did and have been doing research. But I also see a whole lot of people using clomid, torem, nolva ect. Others say its not needed. Would a safe route be to use the TRS only, but have a SERM on hand just in case?
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you wont need a SERM if your doing 8 weeks but its always good to have one on hand in case you feel really shut down. i felt pretty shut down on andromass but after TRS i felt fine
 
R1balla said:
you wont need a SERM if your doing 8 weeks but its always good to have one on hand in case you feel really shut down. i felt pretty shut down on andromass but after TRS i felt fine
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Thanks, something to mull over. Maybe the wife will hook me up for christmas. I have been making good steady gains lately so I will probably want to wait until I hit a wall anyhow. I was planning a bulk over the winter and really want to get good strength gains while I am doing it.
 
ryansm said:
Our versions are not anything like DHEA itself the comparison and MOA are not even in the same field. I understand your premise but using DHEA and Erase will not garner the same effects
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i feel like trying it out for myself now. just a few things hold me back from doing so:

1) i'm undergoing PCT, halfway through. so how suppressive is it? (whichever is best for bulking, so i take it it's androbulk?)

2) every time i took a DHEA based product i had SEVERE anxiety and aggression (much more so than even with mebolazine), will this have the same agitating effect?

if not, then i'm planning on taking it with some GHRP and CJC1295 next month when PCT is over.
 
mylo said:
i feel like trying it out for myself now. just a few things hold me back from doing so:

1) i'm undergoing PCT, halfway through. so how suppressive is it? (whichever is best for bulking, so i take it it's androbulk?)

2) every time i took a DHEA based product i had SEVERE anxiety and aggression (much more so than even with mebolazine), will this have the same agitating effect?

if not, then i'm planning on taking it with some GHRP and CJC1295 next month when PCT is over.
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I would shoot for AndroMass over AB (personal preference) but AB will certainly add weight. Like HTS said suppression is mild but you will need to do 8 weeks so I would wait until after PCT and bloods have stabilized. For the DHEA side effects I recommend you start out at a low dose and raise it as you see fit. Again, the hormones in our products are very much different than straight DHEA so I cannot say you will or will not have issues. If you do decide hit either one of us up for a coupon
 
boogyman said:
Thanks, something to mull over. Maybe the wife will hook me up for christmas. I have been making good steady gains lately so I will probably want to wait until I hit a wall anyhow. I was planning a bulk over the winter and really want to get good strength gains while I am doing it.
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The TRS is recommended by us bud
 
ryansm said:
I would shoot for AndroMass over AB (personal preference) but AB will certainly add weight. Like HTS said suppression is mild but you will need to do 8 weeks so I would wait until after PCT and bloods have stabilized. For the DHEA side effects I recommend you start out at a low dose and raise it as you see fit. Again, the hormones in our products are very much different than straight DHEA so I cannot say you will or will not have issues. If you do decide hit either one of us up for a coupon
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any pct needed? i suppose i'll have to wait a while, i'm still only 15 days into pct... so you didn't get any anxiety (more like intermittent explosive disorder for me..) on this? personally whenever i tried a dhea product from LG i would feel calmer than usual for about 4 days and then a HELLISH anxiety and pissed off mood for the rest of the cycle...
 
mylo said:
any pct needed? i suppose i'll have to wait a while, i'm still only 15 days into pct... so you didn't get any anxiety (more like intermittent explosive disorder for me..) on this? personally whenever i tried a dhea product from LG i would feel calmer than usual for about 4 days and then a HELLISH anxiety and pissed off mood for the rest of the cycle...
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Look into their TRS stack...recommended for PCT., I'd keep a SERM on standby also.
 
Drizzie88 said:
Look into their TRS stack...recommended for PCT., I'd keep a SERM on standby also.
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can't beat clomid, protects against gyno, gets your balls back. period. always have some laying around, and nolva just in case it gets hectic.

any idea on whether it'll give me the explosive anger/anxiety DHEA gave me?
 
boogyman said:
Which combo would you recomend for someone looking mostly for strength gains, and secondary looking for a modest lean weight gain, say 5-10 lbs.
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Hard and Mass definitely.

mylo said:
any pct needed? i suppose i'll have to wait a while, i'm still only 15 days into pct... so you didn't get any anxiety (more like intermittent explosive disorder for me..) on this? personally whenever i tried a dhea product from LG i would feel calmer than usual for about 4 days and then a HELLISH anxiety and pissed off mood for the rest of the cycle...
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We can't say it wont happen to you if you have prior experience of it occuring, but we have had no other reports
 
boogyman said:
Dosing would be 6 Andromass and 3 Androhard caps daily?

And the difference between Bulk and Mass, from what I can see, is Mass is a little more powerful, but with the potential for slightly harsher side effects.
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that sounds right. Also difference is bulk has a 19-nor dhea compound in it. This will allow for "wet" gains similar to a progestin ph. Mass is just 4-dhea which converts pretty good to test, and it has androhard in it half dosed.
 
I have yet to try any of the Andro Series products, but I like the idea of no sides and that, for me, may justify the steep price. I'm so intolerant to methyls these days that I run them for perhaps 7-10 days, once a year at most. I get serious fatigue and sleep disturbances from most popular orals.
 
The Force Factor ad above this box wants to make me shatter my screen.

On another note, I ran Drive and Hard together and enjoyed it. Need to run both again.
 
HereToStudy said:
Hard and Mass definitely.


We can't say it wont happen to you if you have prior experience of it occuring, but we have had no other reports
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i suppose i'll give it a shot when pct and off time is over, then.
 
bioman said:
I have yet to try any of the Andro Series products, but I like the idea of no sides and that, for me, may justify the steep price. I'm so intolerant to methyls these days that I run them for perhaps 7-10 days, once a year at most. I get serious fatigue and sleep disturbances from most popular orals.
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you shouldnt have any issues with these. i ran andromass and i did feel shut down but only my libido was shot. everything else was normal like energy, sleep, mood...etc
 
R1balla said:
you shouldnt have any issues with these. i ran andromass and i did feel shut down but only my libido was shot. everything else was normal like energy, sleep, mood...etc
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Since I see this phrase thrown around... Exactly what do you mean when you say 'I feel shutdown'. I know what being shutdown is, just curious what feelings you attach to it, since they only thing you mentioned that was off was your libido. Anything else you feel that lets you know you're shutdown? Thanks :)
 
bioman said:
I have yet to try any of the Andro Series products, but I like the idea of no sides and that, for me, may justify the steep price. I'm so intolerant to methyls these days that I run them for perhaps 7-10 days, once a year at most. I get serious fatigue and sleep disturbances from most popular orals.
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I'm with you bud and have had similar issues lately but with these there were no sides for me...shoot me a PM if you decide to give it a shot
 
SynergyIre said:
Since I see this phrase thrown around... Exactly what do you mean when you say 'I feel shutdown'. I know what being shutdown is, just curious what feelings you attach to it, since they only thing you mentioned that was off was your libido. Anything else you feel that lets you know you're shutdown? Thanks :)
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for me, only libido was down. everything else was fine.
 
R1balla said:
but i took DAA at night while on cycle so idk if that messed with any of the predicted/claim outcomes. will have to run again but only by itself to really know
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I'm a gonna do that too but with bulk....daa and trans-res every night on cycle
 
R1balla said:
but i took DAA at night while on cycle so idk if that messed with any of the predicted/claim outcomes. will have to run again but only by itself to really know
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Not much imo except with possible help with libido which it appears didn't work much for you
 
ryansm said:
Not much imo except with possible help with libido which it appears didn't work much for you
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I read a thread where a guy ran DAA in hs cycle and his estrogen levels skyrocketed.. Coincidence or was it the cause?
 
I'm looking to Run a hard and mass stack with the trs pct and was hoping for a coupon. Ran hard and lean before my honeymoon and loved the results.
Thanks
 
Dru32 said:
I'm looking to Run a hard and mass stack with the trs pct and was hoping for a coupon. Ran hard and lean before my honeymoon and loved the results.
Thanks
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Im sure if you plan to log your results someone would help you out. Bump for PPreps?
 
Personally I don't understand how someone can't buy a cheap superdrol clone or halodrol.. the stupidity astounds me. (not hating, I'm a recurrent customer of "LiverJuuuuuuice")


If your going to run a ph run the best or cheapest mildest for what ever reason


Assuming Androbulk etc are prohormones right ?
 
Stroke UR Ego said:
Personally I don't understand how someone can't buy a cheap superdrol clone or halodrol.. the stupidity astounds me. (not hating, I'm a recurrent customer of "LiverJuuuuuuice")

If your going to run a ph run the best or cheapest mildest for what ever reason

Assuming Androbulk etc are prohormones right ?
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How can you come into a forum bashing a product and not even know what it is? People who prefer the Andro line like it because it's less suppressive, requires an OTC PCT, less negative sides and works...

Do some research then come back ... You can't even compare SD to AndroBulk loo
 
Dru32 said:
I'm looking to Run a hard and mass stack with the trs pct and was hoping for a coupon. Ran hard and lean before my honeymoon and loved the results.
Thanks
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Check PM. I thought I sent you one recently, but I might be wrong.

Stroke UR Ego said:
Personally I don't understand how someone can't buy a cheap superdrol clone or halodrol.. the stupidity astounds me. (not hating, I'm a recurrent customer of "LiverJuuuuuuice")


If your going to run a ph run the best or cheapest mildest for what ever reason


Assuming Androbulk etc are prohormones right ?
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No one is saying you can't go superdrol (well except the DEA next month), there is a very clear difference between the products.

Drizzie88 said:
How can you come into a forum bashing a product and not even know what it is? People who prefer the Andro line like it because it's less suppressive, requires an OTC PCT, less negative sides and works...

Do some research then come back ... You can't even compare SD to AndroBulk loo
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Thank you for your support.
 
Stroke UR Ego said:
Personally I don't understand how someone can't buy a cheap superdrol clone or halodrol.. the stupidity astounds me. (not hating, I'm a recurrent customer of "LiverJuuuuuuice")
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Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it a stupid choice. In the same way, just because someone doesn't understand why you want to put on that much muscle doesn't make you stupid for wanting it. Figure out why alot of people want these products or let people be :).
 
SynergyIre said:
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it a stupid choice. In the same way, just because someone doesn't understand why you want to put on that much muscle doesn't make you stupid for wanting it. Figure out why alot of people want these products or let people be :).
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I think some people are just very set in their own ways. In a market where so many products are fairly poor performing, I understand skepticism. But the fact is, these products work!
 
I got 2 bottles of andromass, 1 bottle of androhard, and the TRS recovery stack in the cart right now. Price comes to $511 after the discount... These products are worth that pricetag? I've never tried any type of prohormone product so I'm hesitant. Should I go with this or give a 8 week natty a try? I got sns daa and erase on my self and still haven't pulled it out. Any ideas?
 
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