Previous cycle no pct

Visi0n

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i started my fist cycle about a year ago which was test 150 and anadrol 30mg which only lasted 2 month's, I got arrested for some bs and had to quit cold turkey, i was also smoking during my cycle.
like the title said i never had a chance to take a pct nor was a smart enough to buy my pct with my juice and hav it ready.. its been roughly 1 year and i can say ive felt the effects on my body of stoping cold turkey..


my question is could i take a pct like novadex now? to get the nads back to normal size etcs, (makin their own test) cause i think they're in a state of hibernation. (given its been a god damn year)

Im working out steady now, all natural and i just wanna repair my body as best as possible and get it back to normal any broadvice is highly appreciated.
 
your best bet would be to take letro now; jumping into a cycle without having any idea of what your doing is rlly bad man =[
 
Clomid, would be my goto to jump start them testes.
 
Did around 4 pcts with clomid and with all sorts of dosages. I have experienced pretty much every side imaginable on my first cycle.
Ran it at 150/100/50/50 I felt like a blinding menopausal woman. Never making that mistake again.

Visi0n said:
Clomid sounds awsome have you done a cycle yourself? and if so any side effects?
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Gerbil said:
Did around 4 pcts with clomid and with all sorts of dosages. I have experienced pretty much every side imaginable on my first cycle.
Ran it at 150/100/50/50 I felt like a blinding menopausal woman. Never making that mistake again.
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lets say i did 25mg of clomid daily just to jump start the testes, after my cycle is there a high chance estrogen levels will rebound viciously? screwing **** up more
 
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Visi0n said:
lets say i did 25mg of clomid daily just to jump start the testes, after my cycle is there a high chance estrogen levels will rebound viciously? screwing **** up more
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Gerbil said:
Did around 4 pcts with clomid and with all sorts of dosages. I have experienced pretty much every side imaginable on my first cycle.
Ran it at 150/100/50/50 I felt like a blinding menopausal woman. Never making that mistake again.
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its because of the dosage :)

Visi0n said:
lets say i did 25mg of clomid daily just to jump start the testes, after my cycle is there a high chance estrogen levels will rebound viciously? screwing **** up more
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you can't tell without blood tests before, and then right at the tail end.
 
Well I would be guessing that the clinical application of clomid like in most fertility studies would be the best in a testicular atrophy situation.
So the 25mg a day for an extended period. The problem is that they do not do that many studies on clomid for the simple fact that once the patent ended it became a lot less profitable.

murk01 said:
How would some one in this situation dose? Does he go into a 4 week pct? Or do the 25mg clomid for a few weeks?
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I am aware that, that dosage scheme was paint huffingly moronic.

EasyEJL said:
its because of the dosage :)



you can't tell without blood tests before, and then right at the tail end.
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He could run an OTC AI at the tail end of the clomid which should be adequate to stop estro rebound.
 
Gerbil said:
He could run an OTC AI at the tail end of the clomid which should be adequate to stop estro rebound.
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yeah, its better not to if he doesn't need it though. Overall critical thing would be to go now, get blood work. the privatemdlabs female hormone panel would work. then there is a baseline to see where he really is at.
 
I concur.

EasyEJL said:
yeah, its better not to if he doesn't need it though. Overall critical thing would be to go now, get blood work. the privatemdlabs female hormone panel would work. then there is a baseline to see where he really is at.
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EasyEJL said:
yeah, its better not to if he doesn't need it though. Overall critical thing would be to go now, get blood work. the privatemdlabs female hormone panel would work. then there is a baseline to see where he really is at.
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Cheers
 
You need to do bloodtests. You're assuming you're shutdown but you need bloodtests to verify that.

FYI - in the 70's guys did all kinds of AAS cycles and they did NO PCT. They just struggled like hell to keep their gains and went through misery until their nuts restarted on their own.

PCT is important - don't get me wrong - but don't just assume the worst because you didn't do one. Get checked or you could make matters worse.
 
HondaV65 said:
You need to do bloodtests. You're assuming you're shutdown but you need bloodtests to verify that.

FYI - in the 70's guys did all kinds of AAS cycles and they did NO PCT. They just struggled like hell to keep their gains and went through misery until their nuts restarted on their own.

PCT is important - don't get me wrong - but don't just assume the worst because you didn't do one. Get checked or you could make matters worse.
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I have this really old doc that doesnt kno **** about roids and its effects, I have had blood work done and Tested EVERYTHING. my doc said everything looked normal and wouldnt give me any exact stats other than my test was "in the lower range for men but didnt find it an issue in my case". My face is really thin and my jawline looks weak as hell, my neck has turned twig like. i dont think i have gyno but i might be wrong. its taking a tole mentally as well. i booked another appointment might just be switching doctors

thx for feedback
 
Visi0n said:
I have this really old doc that doesnt kno **** about roids and its effects, I have had blood work done and Tested EVERYTHING. my doc said everything looked normal and wouldnt give me any exact stats other than my test was "in the lower range for men but didnt find it an issue in my case". My face is really thin and my jawline looks weak as hell, my neck has turned twig like. i dont think i have gyno but i might be wrong. its taking a tole mentally as well. i booked another appointment might just be switching doctors

thx for feedback
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He HAS to by law give you a copy of the test results if you ask
 
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