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ai or serm?

conehead

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ok so I'm getting ready to run androdrol cycle for 6 weeks and I was wondering if an ai was necessary on cycle
 
I am wondering the same thing I'm doing 4 week superdrol 20/20/20/30 I have liquid clomid but was wonder if a AI is needed so someone please chime in I'm curious as well. I don't mean to hijack but I am running multi vitamins fish oil liver fix and hardcore test booster (natural booster) with liquid clomid for pct I have 2 weeks left on my cycle
 
Yes keep it on hand just in case, IMO an AI is better used when needed if you are running a 6 week cycle.... if you were going to run a longer cycle with test id go with the AI almost from the beggining (lets say at week 4-5 specially if im using test).

Stay away from SERMs on cycle, since it will hurt your gains... sure it CAN help a little on the high estrogen issues, but a SERM is just fooling your system and works in a very different way than an AI... the SERM you better save it for PCT instead :)

By the way, best AI you can get: exemestane or arimidex, in that order
 
I heard superdrol is the methylated oral form of masteron, which is a first generation ai. you shouldn't need any ai's on that in theory
 
conehead said:
I heard superdrol is the methylated oral form of masteron, which is a first generation ai. you shouldn't need any ai's on that in theory
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you are totally lost my friend!... superdrol is a derivative of masteron wich is DHT based.... DHT is androgenic so yeah it can help with high estrogen SYMPTOMS but it doesnt supress estrogen... so is no way considered an AI. i dont know where you got that info but is wrong, masteron is not an AI, just an androgenic compound. and also superdrol is toxic as hell and just because is a derivative of masteron you are advising it? D: WRONG!. also, superdrol is considered to be a weak androgen, despite being DHT derivative.
 
Yes on cycle but since your test is low and estrogen is well not being converted from the test. Your body should have very sensitive estrogen receptors during pct and wont it try hard to produce it once your test is raising backup or atlease make the estrogen receptors very sensitive. That's my theory and why I am inthis predicament
 
I didn't say it suppressed estrogen nor did I say it is to be used in place of an AI. all I said was that "in theory" estrogenic sides shouldn't be very pronounced.
 
conehead said:
I didn't say it suppressed estrogen nor did I say it is to be used in place of an AI. all I said was that "in theory" estrogenic sides shouldn't be very pronounced.
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well my conehead friend, still superdrol is very weak androgen, but understand is a theory, so we shouldnt worry!. you did said is considered an AI but now you made it clear, its all good!
 
On cycle AI is a good idea. Anadrol is a notoriously wet compound.
The potential for water retention, elevated BP..etc is very high.
Low dose AI will reduce some of the sides.

I cant imagine why you would run a cycle of anadrol only.

Testosterone is pretty anabolic as well as being responsible for mood, libido, strength....
Why would you take something known to reduce testosterone without also taking testosterone.
Its anti productive.
 
brundel said:
On cycle AI is a good idea. Anadrol is a notoriously wet compound.
The potential for water retention, elevated BP..etc is very high.
Low dose AI will reduce some of the sides.

I cant imagine why you would run a cycle of anadrol only.

Testosterone is pretty anabolic as well as being responsible for mood, libido, strength....
Why would you take something known to reduce testosterone without also taking testosterone.
Its anti productive.
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Well said!
 
Also....and Im not trying to be mean here....but if you weigh 160lbs you need to eat not take anadrol.
 
conehead said:
I'm not taking anadrol
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hes taking androdrol with 3 methlyated compounds epi sd hd and then lmg. As far a sd being a derivative of masteron YOU are wrong my friend, it is methlyated masteron which means it is altered at the 17th or 18th carbon position to with stand hepatic breakdown( comes in a pill not injection)
 
masteron is an androgenic compound huh? WIth a rating of 25 i think. and it isnt a derivative of masteron it is methlyated masteron, dont call someone else on being wrong when all your info is wrong.
KenTheEagle said:
you are totally lost my friend!... superdrol is a derivative of masteron wich is DHT based.... DHT is androgenic so yeah it can help with high estrogen SYMPTOMS but it doesnt supress estrogen... so is no way considered an AI. i dont know where you got that info but is wrong, masteron is not an AI, just an androgenic compound. and also superdrol is toxic as hell and just because is a derivative of masteron you are advising it? D: WRONG!. also, superdrol is considered to be a weak androgen, despite being DHT derivative.
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Husker89 said:
masteron is an androgenic compound huh? WIth a rating of 25 i think. and it isnt a derivative of masteron it is methlyated masteron, dont call someone else on being wrong when all your info is wrong.
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Oh sorry genious, but being a methylated version of masteron.... means to me that is a DERIVED FROM MASTERON, and thats what i said... i never said they were the same or anything :). you should write a book then :D
 
KenTheEagle said:
Oh sorry genious, but being a methylated version of masteron.... means to me that is a DERIVED FROM MASTERON, and thats what i said... i never said they were the same or anything :). you should write a book then :D
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You misspelled "genius."
 
Lol, all in good fun!
 
Def repping that when I get on my computer!
 
I like the idea of going with an AI like adex for this cycle, I've run a few ph cycles before using OTC anti-estrogens and never had any real noticeable estro sides. This time I'd like it to be solid, would .5 mg of adex a day be sufficient?
 
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