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DAA and Free T?

coolbreeze

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Pat-

Just wondering if DAA would give better results if I combined it with something to lower SHBG/ increase Free T? I'm assuming there are agents out there, like Nettle Root, that can do that?

Thanks
 
I'm not Pat, but my guess would be yes. That is, if you can find a high quality Nettle extract that actually has an efficacious amount of Divanil in it.
 
coolbreeze said:
Pat-

Just wondering if DAA would give better results if I combined it with something to lower SHBG/ increase Free T? I'm assuming there are agents out there, like Nettle Root, that can do that?

Thanks
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There is no in-vivo evidence that nettle or divanil can lower shbg and/or raise free test

divanil has an estrogenic like structure, which i suspect is why it binds to shbg. however, this estrogenic structure may also cause it to stimulate shbg production in the liver.

also, the well known product which was supposed to have divanil in it was found to contain almost no divanil.

so divanil is nothing but an unproven theory
 
Patrick Arnold said:
There is no in-vivo evidence that nettle or divanil can lower shbg and/or raise free test

divanil has an estrogenic like structure, which i suspect is why it binds to shbg. however, this estrogenic structure may also cause it to stimulate shbg production in the liver.

also, the well known product which was supposed to have divanil in it was found to contain almost no divanil.

so divanil is nothing but an unproven theory
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Ok, nix the nettle - what is left Pat?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
There is no in-vivo evidence that nettle or divanil can lower shbg and/or raise free test

divanil has an estrogenic like structure, which i suspect is why it binds to shbg. however, this estrogenic structure may also cause it to stimulate shbg production in the liver.

also, the well known product which was supposed to have divanil in it was found to contain almost no divanil.

so divanil is nothing but an unproven theory
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Planta Med. 1997 Dec;63(6):529-32.
Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG)
 
Uziel said:
Planta Med. 1997 Dec;63(6):529-32.
Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG)
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lignans are estrogenic, and estrogens bind quite well to shbg, so this does not come as much surprise


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Do u think ingesting phytoestrogens is a smart way to increase testosterone?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
There is no in-vivo evidence that nettle or divanil can lower shbg and/or raise free test

divanil has an estrogenic like structure, which i suspect is why it binds to shbg. however, this estrogenic structure may also cause it to stimulate shbg production in the liver.

also, the well known product which was supposed to have divanil in it was found to contain almost no divanil.

so divanil is nothing but an unproven theory
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Whaaa? Wait did this product start with an A and originally have lightning bolts on the label?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
lignans are estrogenic, and estrogens bind quite well to shbg, so this does not come as much surprise


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Do u think ingesting phytoestrogens is a smart way to increase testosterone?
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i only use Nettle (3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran + 6,7-divanillyltetrahydrofuran) for block the binding of dht at the prostate no more Sir.
 
Force of Green said:
Activate is probably the most well-known Divanil product... Even though there are many others now.
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I thought we weren't playing the name game for the sake of safety when it came to the earlier statement. Oh well. Yea I would be upset if that was what he was talking about the well known product that actually had no divanil
 
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