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30lb cycle?

superswole23

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Wanna gain 30 lbs whats the best bet. I want to keep atleast 20 pounds post cycle. Personal experiences are more appreciated. Thanks
 
Hm a friend of mine did Deca and Volde with test and had something like that...it was a while ago, I could ask the specifics of it...or maybe I'll get smacked by anabolic experts here and tell my friend why he got such a horrible PCT experience haha.
 
Here's a thought, "superswole," learn to eat and learn to lift. You are small enough that you can gain AT LEAST 20 lbs with no anabolics whatsoever. There are a LOT of downsides to using anabolics and it should be avoided at all costs until you have hit your natural limits.
 
A buddy of mine ran Test E and Deca for 10 weeks and gained about 35 pounds. He looked a little bloated, but not too badly. I was surprised, but he kept most of it. As far as I know, he didn't run any orals. I'm pretty sure it was his first cycle.
 
stxnas said:
A buddy of mine ran Test E and Deca for 10 weeks and gained about 35 pounds. He looked a little bloated, but not too badly. I was surprised, but he kept most of it. As far as I know, he didn't run any orals. I'm pretty sure it was his first cycle.
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I think everyone's first cycle is always the sh1t. I gained 11 lbs on my first cycle, and that was only 4 wks on hdrol.
 
stxnas said:
A buddy of mine ran Test E and Deca for 10 weeks and gained about 35 pounds. He looked a little bloated, but not too badly. I was surprised, but he kept most of it. As far as I know, he didn't run any orals. I'm pretty sure it was his first cycle.
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This is what I'm looking for! Thank so much! Could u fin out the dosages of each that he took?
 
superswole23 said:
How many weeks/dosage. What about dbol in stead of superdrol
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12 weeks, 500mg per week split in two shots
Dbol is similar to superdrol and is also pretty popular as a kickstart but ive never run it personally. Superdrol was cheap as dirt (i think it was recently banned?) and seriously powerful stuff. I respond rly well even just to 5-10mg/day on it
 
tnubs said:
12 weeks, 500mg per week split in two shots
Dbol is similar to superdrol and is also pretty popular as a kickstart but ive never run it personally. Superdrol was cheap as dirt (i think it was recently banned?) and seriously powerful stuff. I respond rly well even just to 5-10mg/day on it
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Sounds good. What was ur pct? And u said u kept most of it?
 
I haven't talked to him in a few years. He trained and ate like a beast, though. I don't know that everybody will have the same results. Now that I think of it, he may have cycle for 12 weeks. Either way...
 
tnubs said:
12 weeks, 500mg per week split in two shots
Dbol is similar to superdrol and is also pretty popular as a kickstart but ive never run it personally. Superdrol was cheap as dirt (i think it was recently banned?) and seriously powerful stuff. I respond rly well even just to 5-10mg/day on it
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Sd isn't banned. its always been one of the cheaper ph/ds.
its def one of the "top bulkers"
 
superswole23 said:
Sounds good. What was ur pct? And u said u kept most of it?
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Typical 12 week test e cycle will yield 25lbs. I believe thats about average. Add in a kickstart and you are looking at a bit more. You should be able to keep most of it with a good pct. Some combination of torem, clomid, and hcg depending on what you respond best to.
 
tnubs said:
Typical 12 week test e cycle will yield 25lbs. I believe thats about average. Add in a kickstart and you are looking at a bit more. You should be able to keep most of it with a good pct. Some combination of torem, clomid, and hcg depending on what you respond best to.
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U think I'll need an ai?
 
superswole23 said:
U think I'll need an ai?
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I think you'll need to read the following posts:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
If you get pass that one HONESTLY (Hard to , with your weight , and I'm guessing not old enough too...) then read:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html

And if TEST is considered or even some methylated compounds and stuff:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/141577-unreals-guide-injectables.html

Please don't do anything until you understand completely all of this and have successfully exhausted all natural venues , for your height I wouldn't advice PH/DS at all, you can still get pass the 200lbs naturally if you put your mind to it , just get training and nutrition in check. This stuff is meant for people who have reached their natural potential, not a "fast lane" to god-like status , because trust me , not even injectables or PH or DS or w.e. can do miracles...You gotta get diet and training in check, and most of all, know your body!
 
superbeast668 said:
i think i've seen a post or two that suggest redmeatadrol, chickenabol and carbohydrates along with diet and training work the best until your naturally plateaued. I'm pretty sure 6' 170 is a long ways off. you could probably gain 30 lbs on your own in a year, then consider running gear.
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Oh dude , I just bumped my dose of Carbohydrateadol today! ITS INSANE! The pumps and vascularity are WAY off the hook! I dont even need my cycle assist for this i think! I have gotten no sides yet! And increased endurance AND strength! and with the Dosing Protocol called DIET I got , I put on LEAN BODY MASS!! Its freaking amazing! This stuff should be illegal not DMAA! Better get them IN before the FDA bans them too!!
 
tnubs said:
Test e with a kickstart like superdrol
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This is exactly what I came in to say.

Superdrol at a high enough dose for 4 weeks(you may experience some bad sides at 4 weeks).
Maybe run it at 20/20/20/30 or 20/20/30/30 depending on whether you have ran it before.

D-Bol can be ran also to kickstart the cycle.

I would say run test-e between 500mg-750mg for 12 weeks or so.


If your staying away from injectibles maybe go for a superdrol to a halodrol or epistane bridge

e.g

SD 10/20/20

EPI 0/ 0 /30/40/40/40

That could yield a good 20-25 lbs that you could more than likely keep if your PCT was in check.It will never be all muscle.A lot of the weight you gain or keep will be water and gylcogen as well as LBM
 
Schwell2.0 said:
The body can only produce something like 2 lbs of muscle a week- and yes this is on anabolics no one gains 2lba of muscle in a week naturally.

Your a focking idiot OP
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i read something like this but for each pound of muscle there is even more water and glycogen to go along with it further increasing overalll body weight assuming ur not in a depleted or dehydrated state.

idk what ur cycle experience is but the typical big bulker the ppl i train with tend to do is about like this but imo they are some crazy mofos lol

dbol weeks 1-5 @ 30-50mg per day (depends on the quality of the gear)
test e weeks 1-20 @ 700mg per week
decca weeks 1-18 @ 500mg per week
start pct at week 22

a friend ran something similar to this at a little more advanced dose with winny weeks 18-22 prob at 50mg ed and was expecting to gain about 30lbs but at around week 19 he was so lethargic he was hospitalized for a few weeks and lost most of it but he had a 60k contract with muscle pharm i think. hes about 5'4 and 200 so hes a little monster lol
 
I went from 185-220 on steakdrol and tunavar.
In all seriousness, If I were you I would stay natural until you reach 200lbs. I understand you want a cycle to get massive with, but you also need to figure that the more extreme a cycle is the harder it is to recover. Even a four week course on an oral like Anadrol or superdrol will shut you down in days. Size and strength are god like, but coming off is a crash, and your nuts will probably be sore for weeks. I advise you to eat everything your eyes see, work hard, and don't skimp on sleep and you will gain.
However, you probably will juice anyway. 12 weeks of test and tren would be my prime choice. Not 30lbs, but you will be solid and vascular. Some here will disagree due to the potential harshness of tren, but I am not one to advise use of deca. Tren is my 19nor of choice. Some get puffy on deca, but tren keeps you ripped as all hell. Just make sure you have a strong PCT in place. PCT should always be as enthusiastically planned as a cycle itself.
 
Chefbolic said:
I went from 185-220 on steakdrol and tunavar.
In all seriousness, If I were you I would stay natural until you reach 200lbs. I understand you want a cycle to get massive with, but you also need to figure that the more extreme a cycle is the harder it is to recover. Even a four week course on an oral like Anadrol or superdrol will shut you down in days. Size and strength are god like, but coming off is a crash, and your nuts will probably be sore for weeks. I advise you to eat everything your eyes see, work hard, and don't skimp on sleep and you will gain.
However, you probably will juice anyway. 12 weeks of test and tren would be my prime choice. Not 30lbs, but you will be solid and vascular. Some here will disagree due to the potential harshness of tren, but I am not one to advise use of deca. Tren is my 19nor of choice. Some get puffy on deca, but tren keeps you ripped as all hell. Just make sure you have a strong PCT in place. PCT should always be as enthusiastically planned as a cycle itself.
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have u run 12 weeks or tren urself? enthenate i assume. i like the idea of being able to recomp so quickly. what was ur test to tren ratio?
 
Chefbolic said:
I went from 185-220 on steakdrol and tunavar.
In all seriousness, If I were you I would stay natural until you reach 200lbs. I understand you want a cycle to get massive with, but you also need to figure that the more extreme a cycle is the harder it is to recover. Even a four week course on an oral like Anadrol or superdrol will shut you down in days. Size and strength are god like, but coming off is a crash, and your nuts will probably be sore for weeks. I advise you to eat everything your eyes see, work hard, and don't skimp on sleep and you will gain.
However, you probably will juice anyway. 12 weeks of test and tren would be my prime choice. Not 30lbs, but you will be solid and vascular. Some here will disagree due to the potential harshness of tren, but I am not one to advise use of deca. Tren is my 19nor of choice. Some get puffy on deca, but tren keeps you ripped as all hell. Just make sure you have a strong PCT in place. PCT should always be as enthusiastically planned as a cycle itself.
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dudes never run a cycle before. tren is an absolutely HORRIBLE suggestion on that basis. thats definatly not a first, or even second cycle drug, and i know alot of users on here will agree with me.

If your going to do it just run some test e and a prop kicker, you wont gain 30 lbs on a cycle. thats pretty much definite. your androgen receptors are probably clear, based off my assumption that this will be your first. it will hit you hard and you will get big. no need to get nuts on it. if you absolutely have to throw an oral in, id say go with sd due to ease of availibilty and price. its cheaper than adrol or dbol. it does a very good job doing similar with less moisture.
 
By the way I didn't gain anything on chickendrol! You think I got a bunk version? I'm running Haloturkytestin next once I get my pct ready.
 
if he's never ran a cycle then a test-e and d-bol kickstart would do nicely.Or a prohormone cycle like halodrol or epistane.
 
roblasane said:
By the way I didn't gain anything on chickendrol! You think I got a bunk version? I'm running Haloturkytestin next once I get my pct ready.
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haloturkeytesin is some hard core sh*t man. BE CAREFUL. it will shut you down. lethargy from it is absolutely intense. im not sure that theres a dose of BrownRiceandrosterone that will give you enough energy.
 
superbeast668 said:
dudes never run a cycle before. tren is an absolutely HORRIBLE suggestion on that basis. thats definatly not a first, or even second cycle drug, and i know alot of users on here will agree with me.

If your going to do it just run some test e and a prop kicker, you wont gain 30 lbs on a cycle. thats pretty much definite. your androgen receptors are probably clear, based off my assumption that this will be your first. it will hit you hard and you will get big. no need to get nuts on it. if you absolutely have to throw an oral in, id say go with sd due to ease of availibilty and price. its cheaper than adrol or dbol. it does a very good job doing similar with less moisture.
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Sorry you share that opinion, I did quite well with tren enanthate. Granted it was not a first or second cycle by any means, hell my first inject was test e alone. Aside from wicked insomnia and getting pissed quicker than I would like to admit, I love the stuff. Everyone responds different. I'm not here to start arguments, but from my personal experience and that of others, I'd recommend tren over deca as a 19nor any day. However, as a first cycle test alone is the wisest choice. I based my tren suggestion simply off the fact that someone seeking to pack on 30lbs in one cycle is probably the type to go a little haywire. Disagree if you will, but don't knock me as an idiot. Personally I don't like playing with orals anymore, after my last test/SD/prostanazol run I've decided no more pills. Then again, each body responds well to different drugs. The best cycle I ever ran was test cyp, tren e, and eq. Neg rep me if you like, but I do believe I made the suggestion to stay natural for a while longer. 170 at 6'0 has plenty of room to grow with food alone. I'm no chemist, but I do my research, would never recommend a drug I haven't touched, and never touch a drug without reading up on it.
 
Eric160 said:
have u run 12 weeks or tren urself? enthenate i assume. i like the idea of being able to recomp so quickly. what was ur test to tren ratio?
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Test e at 500mgs a week, tren e at 400mgs a week. Kept caber on hand but didn't need it. PCT was kinda rough. Lost some size and the psychopath vascularity, but all in all quite respectable gains in size strength. The hardness while on though is just...fun haha.
 
Chefbolic said:
Test e at 500mgs a week, tren e at 400mgs a week. Kept caber on hand but didn't need it. PCT was kinda rough. Lost some size and the psychopath vascularity, but all in all quite respectable gains in size strength. The hardness while on though is just...fun haha.
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not to hyjack the thread but what did u do as far as an ai or did the tren keep u hard enough? also as far as emotional sides how would u describe it cuz imo the alpha male feeling of being on is the best lol would u relate it to that or more like iritability cuz the incresed agression from a guy my size has ended up being pretty destructive in the past lol lots of broken drywalll, windows, faces.....
 
Celorza said:
Oh dude , I just bumped my dose of Carbohydrateadol today! ITS INSANE! The pumps and vascularity are WAY off the hook! I dont even need my cycle assist for this i think! I have gotten no sides yet! And increased endurance AND strength! and with the Dosing Protocol called DIET I got , I put on LEAN BODY MASS!! Its freaking amazing! This stuff should be illegal not DMAA! Better get them IN before the FDA bans them too!!
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this had me rolling on the floor in laughter
 
Cell-Tech and gakic bro!!! ****s crazy, you will gain that in just 2 weeks!!!
 
Wow I just got on this site today and can't believe all the ignorance that people are saying. Giving advice on aas without even finding out anything about this guy is crazy talk. With that said I also realize some people want to help someone that is determined to run a cycle but mixing with tren on your first cycle and dbol at 50 mg for 6 weeks is crazy talk.

Why does everyone think aas is the end all to a massive body? Nutrition and correct weight training is paramount to building a great physique. And one isnt without the other, they go hand in hand.

Now for my advice lol. IMO, I think to many people talk of using to many compounds. I guess my question for everyone that suggests winny, dbol, deca, and tren is that if someone that uses all these compounds while on test e cyp or prop and run into a problem how will they know which compound caused the problems? I say if your not going to listen to anyone about nutrition and proper training then just run a 8 week cycle of prop. Yes the injections are painful but I guess it would give you an understanding of what it takes. Or test e for 8-10 weeks. Just my thoughts . Take it or leave it I guess.
 
superswole23 said:
Wanna gain 30 lbs whats the best bet. I want to keep atleast 20 pounds post cycle. Personal experiences are more appreciated. Thanks
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There is no such thing as a 30lb cycle dude.
There is such a thing as getting your diet and training in check.
I could gain 30lb off a natty stack for 12 weeks if I was dedicated.
I've seen people run test stack with this stacked with that for 12 weeks and only gain 10lb.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
There is no such thing as a 30lb cycle dude.
There is such a thing as getting your diet and training in check.
I could gain 30lb off a natty stack for 12 weeks if I was dedicated.
I've seen people run test stack with this stacked with that for 12 weeks and only gain 10lb.
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Well said......well said!
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
There is no such thing as a 30lb cycle dude.
There is such a thing as getting your diet and training in check.
I could gain 30lb off a natty stack for 12 weeks if I was dedicated.
I've seen people run test stack with this stacked with that for 12 weeks and only gain 10lb.
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is there a typo in here? 30 pounds on a natty stack in 12 weeks yet there is no such thing as a 30lb cycle? totally agree with diet and dedication, and also seeing very small gains on test.. i had a friend run 15 weeks of e, first cycle, i think he gained like 8-10 lbs off of it.
 
superbeast668 said:
is there a typo in here? 30 pounds on a natty stack in 12 weeks yet there is no such thing as a 30lb cycle? totally agree with diet and dedication, and also seeing very small gains on test.. i had a friend run 15 weeks of e, first cycle, i think he gained like 8-10 lbs off of it.
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Key word was dedication.
No typos broham.
I just get tired of hearing people what magic supplements they can take to weigh 240lbs.
 
I read the sarcasm in flexs words and dedication is key. To many guys that train for 2-3 years and don't see any results and want to jump on the aas wagon. I see it everyday In my gym and I try to help them as much as I can with advice, technique and nutrition. I think the majority of guys that can't make any gains just don't eat enough and the lack of training knowledge and then they want to start cycling and don't even realize how much better your eating habits better be while on cycle or you just pissed away hundreds of dollars.

All I can say to anyone that reads this stay focused, learn, watch, eat and GROW!
 
jbryand101b said:
Why is this?
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Don't see a lot of talk about them anymore. But I guess they are still alive and kicking. Haven't seen any real ph since methyl 1 test. Thought all this other **** was bunk.
 
BigShadow said:
Don't see a lot of talk about them anymore. But I guess they are still alive and kicking. Haven't seen any real ph since methyl 1 test. Thought all this other **** was bunk.
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Kinda confused on u guy
 
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