Time off Compound 20?
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strategicmove
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Got it!
breezy11
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I really didn't expect much when starting Compound20 but over the last month I've had great results with it. Compound20 (and Erase Pro) has helped me achieve changes in body composition that I previously could not with the same diet and training in check. I have been eating above maintenance, gaining weight, and leaning out simultaneously. It's a product that I will definitely use again.
bla55
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1)Let's just say then that I saw more results from recommended dose from 1MR and White Flood than double the dose of Jack3d.
2) I followed the instructions as said, hell, I have always disliked eating a lot of carbs but I counted and weighted my food in order to get the "desired" amounts. If anything it made me gain extra fat due to the excess carbs - which were "good carbs" as well. When I tried a simple combination of ALA/VS/Chromium and maintained carbs at 100 or so, I had a fuller and more pumped reaction, same as with P-Slin, these were just my personal experiences, and I followed every one to the T on the recommended usage.
3) I just question that one big time. It was indeed in reference to Bolic I believe, it was on a "trial" run and a few bottles went out on sale, but the product never made it to the USP lineup. Any natural compound that claims to deliver results such as an AAS are questionable to me, regardless of who will be running this research. Researches and logs can be biased one way or another unless it is indeed a published and reputable research, and if it indeed did give Anavar like results, why did it never make it to the lineup, regardless of price?
Also a mentioned on the Super Cissus, I didn't get much of a result from it on my joints. I had better response to 40% Cissus Ketones al natural.
strategicmove
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Wow! Thank you!
Whacked
Well-known member
For me, Erase was solid at losing some blubber. Almost instant gratification for me.
In addition to the Erase, you also had cortisol modulating ingredients further assisting you with your goals b/c you ran Erase PRO.
Hard to give the credit to C-20 here; although that does NOT mean C-20 did not help
Surely, the USP team HAS to appreciate my stance that in 90% of these "positive" feedback posts, the users are on other products that have already been vetted on these boards as great weapons in the battle for fat loss.
Does it discount or dismiss C-20 as being effective? Nope - but a post where the user ONLY used C20 is ideally the only way to evaluate the efficacy of C-20
Am I wrong here?
In addition to the Erase, you also had cortisol modulating ingredients further assisting you with your goals b/c you ran Erase PRO.
Hard to give the credit to C-20 here; although that does NOT mean C-20 did not help
Surely, the USP team HAS to appreciate my stance that in 90% of these "positive" feedback posts, the users are on other products that have already been vetted on these boards as great weapons in the battle for fat loss.
Does it discount or dismiss C-20 as being effective? Nope - but a post where the user ONLY used C20 is ideally the only way to evaluate the efficacy of C-20
Am I wrong here?
strategicmove
Legend
1) I cannot argue on that one. If seeing results is correlated with stim content, then there are clearly some other pre-workout powders with more stimulants than Jack3d. Jack3d was not designed to be the strongest-stim pre-workout.
2) Anabolic Pump should be consumed before meals containing between 30-60gr carbohydrates. Not 100g.
3) We somehow regard research and logs as questionable when they yield results that are contrary to our expectations or challenge our widely-held assumptions. The Anavar-reference research was published. By the way, not every research published in a reputable medical journal is unqestionable. I have seen a few Big-Pharma-sponsored research published in such journals claiming the ineffectiveness of certain (otherwise powerful) compounds, based on inappropriately constructed controls. The only types of research studies that are beyond dispute to me are peer-reviewed placebo-controlled double-blind studies.
Not sure why you are stuck on this Anavar angle. If you have been following the forums here, USPlabsdirectdotcom and even BBdotcom, closely, you would have noticed that people did not stop asking for a re-run of Bolic. This is one reason we are now offering PureCAMP-95. Bolic did not make it to the standard product line due to extremely fluctuating availability of high-grade Forskolin at the time.
breezy11
Well-known member
Whacked said:
I can't say that either product has had a bigger impact on my results being that they are stacked. The best I can do is try to make educated guesses based on how their ingredients are claimed to work. I would suggest that you give Compound20 a try (especially since it was offered) and see what you can get out if it.
Whacked
Well-known member
I agree with you.
I did not see where it was offered - must have missed it.
I interested in freebies as that has the tendency to skew reported results.
Read my signature LOL
Congrats on your COMBINED successfrom Erase Pro AND C20!
Good for you man
I did not see where it was offered - must have missed it.
I interested in freebies as that has the tendency to skew reported results.
Read my signature LOL
Congrats on your COMBINED successfrom Erase Pro AND C20!
Good for you man
kevinhy
Well-known member
I concur, I dont think its bad at all.
kokobeware2
Active member
Maybe a rep can help me. I'm not really drying out as much as I was on like the third week an now I got one more day of a second bottle. Any ideas? My diet is pretty on par medium carbs high pro low fat.
kokobeware2
Active member
kokobeware2 said:
I just bought some ephedrine. That might help a bit right?
kevinhy
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kokobeware2
Active member
kevinhy said:
Yeah. No really diet is the same. I just started a log of intimidate and erase pro (thanks to you) an thats helping. It was great stuff and now it just seems. Ehh. Doing recomp
strategicmove
Legend
You have one more day of a second bottle of Compound-20? How long have you used the product already? And how did you dose it?
kokobeware2
Active member
strategicmove said:
I'm gonna finish up m second bottle took 2 caps 2x a day. 6-8 hours apart with food
rome32
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bla55 said:
*** employees are mislead by their own company with "insider info" about new things coming out. Instead of reviewing the ingredients with backed up studies they simply tell you what it does and how awesome it is. Making a huge hype and a great payout for the employee which is why they push that stuff so hard without researching. They don't want to believe their employer would use them as hype-markers...I think there are valuable employees there, but they need to be better informed like the Reps and fellow people on this forum..
Take it from me. I knew a guy who knew a guy that worked there at one point in time and it was probably me
kokobeware2
Active member
rome32 said:*** employees are mislead by their own company with "insider info" about new things coming out. Instead of reviewing the ingredients with backed up studies they simply tell you what it does and how awesome it is. Making a huge hype and a great payout for the employee which is why they push that stuff so hard without researching. They don't want to believe their employer would use them as hype-markers...I think there are valuable employees there, but they need to be better informed like the Reps and fellow people on this forum..
Take it from me. I knew a guy who knew a guy that worked there at one point in time and it was probably me
I second your opinion sir. I "know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy that works at G N C" and employees push the products and you get a nice extra 6 bones in your paycheck for selling it. However, then their are employees as my friend who actually do research on products.
rome32
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As did I. Just gives them a bad name really.
B5150
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Bro. That SLEDGE HAMMER approach of yours has been flying pretty freely these day. Here and in other threads. It's not very becoming.Awww there it is. The part where you forgot to disclose what else you were taking (DAA and Lean EFX - two products that actually work).
I am not flaming you "personally" buddy, I am just so disgusted with OVER-HYPED posts related to EARTH-SHATTERING new products.
USPlabs's only competitor these days is Muscle Tech, with respect to being the KING of bogus OVERHYPED OVERPIMPED OVEREXAGGERATED claims!
Make no mistake......USP Labs certainly has "decent" products like everyone else in the industry!
As a matter of fact, I have been on their CIssusRx, PowerFULL for years. Both decent stuff!
It's their MUSCLE-TECH-LIKE MARKETING claims which make me VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!
StrategicMove: Please, spare me! Let me guess, you lost 5 % body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle on Comound 20 right.....along with every other USPLabs REP?
Before you ask me what post count has to do with it - THINK first.
I keep it REAL as I have no skin in the game. NONE
DO YOU? nuff said
While I can appreciate the fact thast it is your JOB as a PAID employee to pimp USP products Let's just stop the nonsense and spare yourself some dignity here.
The EXTREME intelligence you inarguably possess along with your ability to argue the science better than others doesn't magically translate to making these products STEROID-like in behavior.
There are people left on this board who havent sold their soul who will continue to call a spade a spade and I just happen to be one of them.
FWIW the man you are attacking is quite the respected gentlemen around these parts. There really is no need to address him or anyone else in this manner. JMHO
Jonbero
Active member
I'm on day 18 on Compound 20 Erase Pro stack and I have lost 5 pounds so far, mostly water weight and fat I believe since I have more muscle definition. Diet and training have been spot on. I'm on a ~500 calorie deficit and I eat only ~40 grams of complex calories a day. What I have noticed from C20 + EP stack; strength and endurance are up, especially endurance. I also sweat alot more than usual.
Clemenza
Well-known member
Awww there it is. The part where you forgot to disclose what else you were taking (DAA and Lean EFX - two products that actually work).
I am not flaming you "personally" buddy, I am just so disgusted with OVER-HYPED posts related to EARTH-SHATTERING new products.
USPlabs's only competitor these days is Muscle Tech, with respect to being the KING of bogus OVERHYPED OVERPIMPED OVEREXAGGERATED claims!
Make no mistake......USP Labs certainly has "decent" products like everyone else in the industry!
As a matter of fact, I have been on their CIssusRx, PowerFULL for years. Both decent stuff!
It's their MUSCLE-TECH-LIKE MARKETING claims which make me VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!
StrategicMove: Please, spare me! Let me guess, you lost 5 % body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle on Comound 20 right.....along with every other USPLabs REP?
Before you ask me what post count has to do with it - THINK first.
I keep it REAL as I have no skin in the game. NONE
DO YOU? nuff said
While I can appreciate the fact thast it is your JOB as a PAID employee to pimp USP products Let's just stop the nonsense and spare yourself some dignity here.
The EXTREME intelligence you inarguably possess along with your ability to argue the science better than others doesn't magically translate to making these products STEROID-like in behavior.
There are people left on this board who havent sold their soul who will continue to call a spade a spade and I just happen to be one of them.
Come on bro, you can't compare USPlabs to Muscle Tech, nor their marketing techniques. MTech puts out 4 page adds for creatine mixed with sugar and air brushes up some before and after pics of fitness models. Complete BS and anybody that falls for it is indeed a sucker.
I actually know one of the guys who's picture and review was used in the Compound-20 ad. It's the real deal. Strategic even sent me a bottle to try. Why send out free bottles to forum members who you know will give true feedback if you don't trust your product?
No one is making steroid like claims in any USPlabs ad. And even as you mentioned, their products are solid. I'm a HUGE Anabolic Pump fan! Jack3d, not my cup of tea, but it's not the number one pre workout in the country by accident.
Look there's nothing wrong with a little exageration in marketing. This is America, this is capitalism. And it's a great freakin' system!
I don't know of ANY product in any market that doesn't hype the product's claims at least somewhat. But BS ad's can only get a product so far.
And the great thing about it all is this... if you try it once and don't like it, no one's forcing you to buy it again.
MuscleGauge1
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Is this a joke? I want to know also.
strategicmove
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Your dosing approach is correct. If you have used Compound-20 for eight weeks, then you should cycle it off for about four weeks before re-starting, if desired.
demonico
New member
Hi,
just few words to report my experience with Compound20. I'm using it (I'm in the middle of 3 week) with DS lean xtreme. very very happy with results, my stomach has never been so flat even if I had some cheat meals during those weeks. My strenght & endurance are increasing, an my muscles are harder. I've already used lean xtreme alone but results weren't so good and fast, so I think compoun20 is playing a good role.
Here in Italy in some forum it' s reccomended to stop Compound20 after 2/3 weeks since, acting on beta 3 agonists, this is the lenght cycle of Clen for example. Is there some amount of truth in this suggestion?
just few words to report my experience with Compound20. I'm using it (I'm in the middle of 3 week) with DS lean xtreme. very very happy with results, my stomach has never been so flat even if I had some cheat meals during those weeks. My strenght & endurance are increasing, an my muscles are harder. I've already used lean xtreme alone but results weren't so good and fast, so I think compoun20 is playing a good role.
Here in Italy in some forum it' s reccomended to stop Compound20 after 2/3 weeks since, acting on beta 3 agonists, this is the lenght cycle of Clen for example. Is there some amount of truth in this suggestion?
strategicmove
Legend
I am glad to read that you are seeing good results with Compound-20. You can consume Compound-20 for up to 6-8 weeks. Compound-20's primary molecular pathways of action include cyclic AMP stimulation as well as selective beta-2-adrenoceptor activation. Clenbuterol, on the other hand, although also a beta-2 adrenergic receptor activator, also activates other molecular processes that, in concert, lead to a range of undesirable side effects, requiring that its use should be cycled as early as 2-3 weeks after commencement.
USPlabsRep
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I agree with you.
I did not see where it was offered - must have missed it.
I interested in freebies as that has the tendency to skew reported results.
Read my signature LOL
Congrats on your COMBINED successfrom Erase Pro AND C20!
Good for you man
Stacking....get out of here, who does that?
Whacked
Well-known member
USP
Let me give you an example in an attempt to illustrate my point.
Let's say you run a cycle of DNP, T3 , ECA and Clen and lost 20 lbs of blubber, which substance would you attribute your fat loss to?
Exactly, you could not intelligently decide. No one could.
What if you came on these boards pimping DNP as the best stuff ever as it burned off 20 lbs of blubber!
You could THINK/ASSUME it was the DNP if you wanted to but you'd have a hard time PROVING it. Agreed?
You'd also be foolish to quickly dismiss other supps (especially since they are all tried and true and time-tested supps). Agreed?
Now, in this same example, but THIS time, you find out months later that the DNP you took was fake/bunk.
Would you still have lost 20 lbs of blubber despite ONE product being BUNK? yup
I hope you can appreciate where I am coming from here?
My issue/contention remains with over-pimping products in general AND with people who are "stacking" as you stated and unjustifiably assuming it is ONE product verses the other responsible for their results.
Surely, you can appreciate my perspective. Especially, considering the fact that 90% of the posts where positive reviews/results were obtained came from members running such stacks AND with products that have already been vetted on these boards for YEARS
That's all
Have a good one and best of luck with your new product.
Let me give you an example in an attempt to illustrate my point.
Let's say you run a cycle of DNP, T3 , ECA and Clen and lost 20 lbs of blubber, which substance would you attribute your fat loss to?
Exactly, you could not intelligently decide. No one could.
What if you came on these boards pimping DNP as the best stuff ever as it burned off 20 lbs of blubber!
You could THINK/ASSUME it was the DNP if you wanted to but you'd have a hard time PROVING it. Agreed?
You'd also be foolish to quickly dismiss other supps (especially since they are all tried and true and time-tested supps). Agreed?
Now, in this same example, but THIS time, you find out months later that the DNP you took was fake/bunk.
Would you still have lost 20 lbs of blubber despite ONE product being BUNK? yup
I hope you can appreciate where I am coming from here?
My issue/contention remains with over-pimping products in general AND with people who are "stacking" as you stated and unjustifiably assuming it is ONE product verses the other responsible for their results.
Surely, you can appreciate my perspective. Especially, considering the fact that 90% of the posts where positive reviews/results were obtained came from members running such stacks AND with products that have already been vetted on these boards for YEARS
That's all
Have a good one and best of luck with your new product.
Whacked
Well-known member
Hello Demonico
Great to hear you enjoyed your run of C-20!
Respectfully, I think it's fair to give LeanXtreme some credit here too. The results you relayed are similar to what I get from LeanXtreme SOLO. This is NOT to say that C20 was not helpful with your fat loss, but it certasinly warrants a fair and logical thought process and discussion.
Feel free to run a search on ME and MANY OTHER members on this stuff (LeanXtreme) as this is a KILLER product that has come thru for me and many others for many YEARS for fat loss goals.
Be well and congrats again on your results regardless of what caused them.
Great to hear you enjoyed your run of C-20!
Respectfully, I think it's fair to give LeanXtreme some credit here too. The results you relayed are similar to what I get from LeanXtreme SOLO. This is NOT to say that C20 was not helpful with your fat loss, but it certasinly warrants a fair and logical thought process and discussion.
Feel free to run a search on ME and MANY OTHER members on this stuff (LeanXtreme) as this is a KILLER product that has come thru for me and many others for many YEARS for fat loss goals.
Be well and congrats again on your results regardless of what caused them.
Whacked
Well-known member
Congrats on your success with C20 and ERASE (a popular product around here for years and a personal favorite of mine).
Erase Pro is supposed to be even more potent as it addresses other pathways than just estrogenic ones. I have no 1st hand experience.
Great to hear you were smart enough to also DIET and TRAIN correctly and spot on" as you relayed which is important in ANY fat loss regimen.
It is also nice to see you were wise enough to LOWER YOUR daily caloric intake by 500 k/cal per day; thereby ALSO assisting you with in your fat loss goals!
Lastly: Lowering your carbs to ONLY 40 grams a day will also yield great fat loss provided you k/cal and macro's are not illogical choices. Also, the definition you discuss can easily be attributed to the water loss from lowerring your carbs so dramatically.
Great to hear you had such good results with ALL the supps and dieted/trained so intelligently
Erase Pro is supposed to be even more potent as it addresses other pathways than just estrogenic ones. I have no 1st hand experience.
Great to hear you were smart enough to also DIET and TRAIN correctly and spot on" as you relayed which is important in ANY fat loss regimen.
It is also nice to see you were wise enough to LOWER YOUR daily caloric intake by 500 k/cal per day; thereby ALSO assisting you with in your fat loss goals!
Lastly: Lowering your carbs to ONLY 40 grams a day will also yield great fat loss provided you k/cal and macro's are not illogical choices. Also, the definition you discuss can easily be attributed to the water loss from lowerring your carbs so dramatically.
Great to hear you had such good results with ALL the supps and dieted/trained so intelligently
LiveToLift
Legend
Whacked, I do believe it's time to give it up man. The product obviously works.... Report after report coming in of good results without all types o variations. In my review I had to drop the EPRO that I was taking with c20 due to issues with sides. I ran the c20 with prime alone for those two weeks. I know how prime treats me and can easily attribute which gains/cuts were coming from what source. As stated before, let's say you take creatine and up your water intake and gain 4 lbs. was it the creatine or was it the water that did this for you? Look hard enough you will find results in reviews from c20 alone. USP offered you an chance to run the product I suggest you do and put your pride aside. Run it with little to no change in any other variables and give us feedback, it's the least you could do after making this big of an issue for these guys..... . Have a good day.
. Have a good day.
Whacked
Well-known member
I agree. Clen is garbage! Not often discussed is the potential for permanent heart damage as well.
I also recall reading somewhere that upon ceasing use, the B2 receptors downregulate, A2 upregulate and the fat rebound commences immediately. Just bro-science? Beats me. The half like of Clen scares me as well - due to potential "irresponsible use" from kids on these boards.
Speaking of which, does anyone know the HALF LIFE of C20?
Thanks
I also recall reading somewhere that upon ceasing use, the B2 receptors downregulate, A2 upregulate and the fat rebound commences immediately. Just bro-science? Beats me. The half like of Clen scares me as well - due to potential "irresponsible use" from kids on these boards.
Speaking of which, does anyone know the HALF LIFE of C20?
Thanks
Whacked
Well-known member
L-t-L:
I don't have an axe to grind with USP or any members of USP!
As stated, I am on 2 of their supps and have been for years! lol
Please take the time to read ALL of my posts in this thread. I am simply discussing that any time supps of ANY type from any company are STACKED, it just makes sense to not give one supp the credit for good results OR just as fairly, the blame for less-than-satisfactory results.
I've got no dog in the fight. I have been keeping an eye on C20 for personal interest.
That said, such NEW product discussions and claims should remain grounded and not dubious far-fetched.
I would love for C20 to end up being legit. Any supps that can assist in the fight agaisnt bodyfat is more than welcomed!
PS: I have yet to see "report after report" of positive reviews without a poster concommittantly using another fatloss product.
As stated multiple times now, the above doesn't render C20 useless, it also doesnt prove its efficacy.
I don't have an axe to grind with USP or any members of USP!
As stated, I am on 2 of their supps and have been for years! lol
Please take the time to read ALL of my posts in this thread. I am simply discussing that any time supps of ANY type from any company are STACKED, it just makes sense to not give one supp the credit for good results OR just as fairly, the blame for less-than-satisfactory results.
I've got no dog in the fight. I have been keeping an eye on C20 for personal interest.
That said, such NEW product discussions and claims should remain grounded and not dubious far-fetched.
I would love for C20 to end up being legit. Any supps that can assist in the fight agaisnt bodyfat is more than welcomed!
PS: I have yet to see "report after report" of positive reviews without a poster concommittantly using another fatloss product.
As stated multiple times now, the above doesn't render C20 useless, it also doesnt prove its efficacy.
Whacked, I do believe it's time to give it up man. The product obviously works.... Report after report coming in of good results without all types o variations. In my review I had to drop the EPRO that I was taking with c20 due to issues with sides. I ran the c20 with prime alone for those two weeks. I know how prime treats me and can easily attribute which gains/cuts were coming from what source. As stated before, let's say you take creatine and up your water intake and gain 4 lbs. was it the creatine or was it the water that did this for you? Look hard enough you will find results in reviews from c20 alone. USP offered you an chance to run the product I suggest you do and put your pride aside. Run it with little to no change in any other variables and give us feedback, it's the least you could do after making this big of an issue for these guys.....
Clemenza
Well-known member
Whacked said:L-t-L:
I don't have an axe to grind with USP or any members of USP!
As stated, I am on 2 of their supps and have been for years! lol
Please take the time to read ALL of my posts in this thread. I am simply discussing that any time supps of ANY type from any company are STACKED, it just makes sense to not give one supp the credit for good results OR just as fairly, the blame for less-than-satisfactory results.
I've got no dog in the fight. I have been keeping an eye on C20 for personal interest.
That said, such NEW product discussions and claims should remain grounded and not dubious far-fetched.
I would love for C20 to end up being legit. Any supps that can assist in the fight agaisnt bodyfat is more than welcomed!
PS: I have yet to see "report after report" of positive reviews without a poster concommittantly using another fatloss product.
As stated multiple times now, the above doesn't render C20 useless, it also doesnt prove its efficacy.
I hear where you are coming from in regards to stacking and what product gave what result. right now I'm running Alpha T2 solo because I want to see what it can do for me by itself. That way I know if I should take it again down the road. Great results so far so yes I know AT 2 is a solid product and is now my fat burner of choice.
In fact, I have a bottle of compound 20 and I will log it solo just for the sake of this discussion and to see how well it actually works.
strategicmove
Legend
A simple answer to a simple question, indeed!
I am glad to know you enjoyed your run of Compound-20. Thank you for the feedback. Compound-20 is not, and was not, designed as a "magic" product, and yields expected results within the context of a good exercise and diet setting. We recommend it should be consumed for a maximum of eight weeks and cycled off for four weeks before re-starting, if desired.
strategicmove
Legend
I am looking forward to your Compound-20 log. I was a Compound-20 beta-tester and did a log on it at USPlabsdirectDotCom. I ran it solo (I always beta-test products solo). Awesome results. To those that would suggest my log lacked objectivity (due to my affiliation with the company), I say I had absolutely no motive whatever to provide the company with false (in the sense of exaggerated positive results) feedback that would influence the company's "go-or-no-go decision" regarding the product's introduction, and ultimately jeopardize the market success of the product. So, I had every reason to provide an objective feedback, and my log reflected my true experience. Overall, I can say, several bottles of Compound-20 later, that I consider myself fortunate to be able to obtain this product at no charge.
Whacked
Well-known member
I am planning on trying either USP's Forskolin OR C20
1) Please advise on the half life of BOTH
2) Please advise on which of the 2 would be a SUPERIOR choice for fat loss
Whacked
Well-known member
Understood and congrats on your solid results.
Quick question ...I hope you find this to be a fair and respectful one:
Would you also post all over the boards that you received absolutely NOTHING and thought the product stunk IF that were the case?
Respectfully, you are a USP company REP and well-respected on these boards for your knowledge......so when you say you have "no motive" whatsoever, I hope you can appreciate my position in asking this question and I also hope you feel the question is justified.
I look forward to your no-spin reply.
Thanks
Quick question ...I hope you find this to be a fair and respectful one:
Would you also post all over the boards that you received absolutely NOTHING and thought the product stunk IF that were the case?
Respectfully, you are a USP company REP and well-respected on these boards for your knowledge......so when you say you have "no motive" whatsoever, I hope you can appreciate my position in asking this question and I also hope you feel the question is justified.
I look forward to your no-spin reply.
Thanks
kevinhy
Well-known member
In regards to the products efficacy, i have used it solo for what its worth and noted very positive results.
My position on identifying effective supplements is:
1. How is the science? Anecdotal feedback is very subjective as you've noted.
2. Does it translate to real word results? Research can be flawed by many different ways.
The science is good on the ingredients, so i decided to give it a solo run. I needed time off Erase Pro/Anabeta/DAA, so i figured grabbing a bottle of this to run during my four week off period would be a good chance to test its worth.
My position on identifying effective supplements is:
1. How is the science? Anecdotal feedback is very subjective as you've noted.
2. Does it translate to real word results? Research can be flawed by many different ways.
The science is good on the ingredients, so i decided to give it a solo run. I needed time off Erase Pro/Anabeta/DAA, so i figured grabbing a bottle of this to run during my four week off period would be a good chance to test its worth.
schizm
Well-known member
I dose mine first thing in the morning preWO...fasted except some modernbcaa/purple psyko....no issues...
Whacked
Well-known member
Agreed
Regarding the science: What is the half life of this stuff?
Anyone know?
Thanks
Regarding the science: What is the half life of this stuff?
Anyone know?
Thanks
kevinhy
Well-known member
Agreed
Regarding the science: What is the half life of this stuff?
Anyone know?
Thanks
I dont think half life has been established
Whacked
Well-known member
Let's say it's a killer product .....but only lasts 1 minute (for example only) 1 minute. That's not good. Agreed?
Perfect example? Oral Resveratrol (approx 45 minute half life so dosing has be done 6-8+/day to really observe discernable results comparable to those seen in all the studies/research.)
I look forward to USP replies backed w/some science of course as I am interested in running this product SOON
Perfect example? Oral Resveratrol (approx 45 minute half life so dosing has be done 6-8+/day to really observe discernable results comparable to those seen in all the studies/research.)
I look forward to USP replies backed w/some science of course as I am interested in running this product SOON
schizm
Well-known member
I believe there's some half life talk in this thread....
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not sure anything definitive though...