steppinRazor
Well-known member
criticalbench said:
Wow are you ****in kidding me bro?? He talks down about a product and you want to publicly put out his private info, cc number, ssn?? pics of his house? Rofl wow if anyones the troll it would be you
Intimidate Question/concern
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Wow are you ****in kidding me bro?? He talks down about a product and you want to publicly put out his private info, cc number, ssn?? pics of his house? Rofl wow if anyones the troll it would be you
joshv155
New member
Mike -
Lots of very good points here. I will be honest, the troll that kept bashing the product got my mind to wondering if I had just waisted my money. I am sticking with the product for a full 60 days and will see how it goes. I don't doubt that many have had success with Intimidate.....hopefully I will see the same type of results when I look back after taking it for 60 days.
B5150
Legend
No Such Thing As Bad Publicity
"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." — Oscar Wilde
As the saying goes, there's "no such thing as bad publicity".
Even if people are trying to raise a big stink about some product they're just giving it attention, increasing how well-known it is, arousing people's natural curiosity to try it.
It's sad to see someone waste so much valuable time of their own to drag down someone or something else. Any merit that they may have in any statement of theirs is seriously mired by their clearly vindictive behavior and gets lost on most or at least those who can read them like an open book.
"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." — Oscar Wilde
As the saying goes, there's "no such thing as bad publicity".
Even if people are trying to raise a big stink about some product they're just giving it attention, increasing how well-known it is, arousing people's natural curiosity to try it.
It's sad to see someone waste so much valuable time of their own to drag down someone or something else. Any merit that they may have in any statement of theirs is seriously mired by their clearly vindictive behavior and gets lost on most or at least those who can read them like an open book.
B5150
Legend
Really? We are not here to censor posts positive or negative. Censorship brings a board down. Your company's sponsorship does not include that service. You guys can advertize, promote, endorse and support your products 24/7.
When useless and mindless trolls present themselves, as they always do on every board, you should have business relations skills to know how to conduct yourselves accordingly without compromising your own integrity. You can also ignore them, which is advisable because for the most part everyone else does.
Additionally, we are not like those boards because we do not conduct illegal business resorting to illegal tactics.
B5150
Legend
Be sure to distribute yourself fairly and equally across the entire industry (there's 35 sponsors on this board alone) because otherwise, like right now, you look just like and behave just like...a troll!
T-Bone
Banned
Personally I hate the excuse of "it must be your diet and training that is off". That just puts up a smoke screen so to speak. If you are already following a proper diet and training routine, you should be making progress or getting results. If you are not getting the results you want then you may have to change your lifestyle or concentrate more on diet or training. Maybe you stay up late, maybe you drink on occasion. It could be that you are not getting enough sleep. It could be you are not eating enough calories to gain muscle, maybe your are eating too much to lose the fat you want. So at this point the answer would not be a supplement, it would be to fix or change your "plan". However, if you are making progress and everything is going well and you want some kind of edge to speed things along adding a supplement may or may not help. Still if you weren't making great progress and didn't change your plan and instead added a supplement it would still have the same effect on your body. The effect may not be as pronounced but it would still be doing something, if it was/is effective for you. One+One+One always equals three no matter what.
If you are injecting testosterone into you body and not working out, you are still going to get the effects of increased testosterone.
You can't always blame it on diet and training if a supplement doesn't work for someone. If it doesn't work for them, then oh well its just not for them. You can't just get upset every time one person steps up and says it doesn't work for them, giving the excuse that it must be their diet and training that isn't working. If it was there diet and training that was the problem, well then the supplement probably wasn't doing anything in the first place. Say their diet and training needed a lot of work. So said person works on that and has everything down pat, now they are making some really nice progress....Ummm I think you get my point.
If you are injecting testosterone into you body and not working out, you are still going to get the effects of increased testosterone.
You can't always blame it on diet and training if a supplement doesn't work for someone. If it doesn't work for them, then oh well its just not for them. You can't just get upset every time one person steps up and says it doesn't work for them, giving the excuse that it must be their diet and training that isn't working. If it was there diet and training that was the problem, well then the supplement probably wasn't doing anything in the first place. Say their diet and training needed a lot of work. So said person works on that and has everything down pat, now they are making some really nice progress....Ummm I think you get my point.
criticalbench
Legend
If you read my post, I said clearly several times that I was not saying his diet and training are bad, it may just be time for a switch. I ever said, it is very possible that the product just does not work for him. That has happened several times to me in the past.
I would never want someones personal info posted, just stating that it happens. I said I hate to see it, the wrong people get hurt from time to time. The issue is when someone persistently posts in every one of our threads bashing products. He does not clearly come in and say, "I used intimidate, didn't do a thing for me." He does not leave it at that, that would be believable but he goes far above, and beyond.
This is the first time EVER, that I responded in a negative way. You will have a hard time finding posts by me, that put down others. It's okay not to like our product, its okay to state it didn't work for him in our threads, but what is not okay is when he comes in every thread, "bashing" to the extreme our products on a persistent, daily basis. That does not provide a solid forum.
I respected his input for a long time, when other reps had a problem with it. I kept my mouth shut for a LONG while, giving him the benefit of the doubt. I was even nice to him in a thread, when others didn't respond the same. I tried to help him, listen to him, and understand him.
What I don't understand, is why when a product does not work for for one, it is terrible, and wont work for anyone. I recently ran a course of a selective peptide that promised so much. Didn't do ANYTHING for me, at all. I'm not questioning the product, I brush it off that it didn't work for me, because my trainer partner responded like god to it.
Mike
criticalbench
Legend
That is correct; my issue is with selectively isolating all I-Force threads and promoting to the max and attacking the product, rather than just posting reviews on how the product did not work for him. He attacks it as if it is the worst thing in the world. He does not promote the fact it didn't work for him.
I do not want you either, to post publically peoples info. I was just stating that it happens and the only good that comes from it, is it keeps forums in very good shape. It maintains the forum in a good way, but downside is the wrong people get hurt. I don't want that to happen here, I just want this board to remain a learning place, not a place where everyone bashing and talks down everything.
Mike
criticalbench
Legend
Thank you, and best of luck. Never hesitate to PM me with any issues and concerns to see if we can work something out together! Looking forward to seeing your progress!!!
Mike
T-Bone
Banned
I was mostly just generalizing in my post. What Mission1 likes or dis-likes doesn't matter to me. Ok, so he doesn't care for iforce products and talks bad about them. So what. You are going to run into people like that once in a while, that is just life after all. Don't sweat the small stuff.
criticalbench
Legend
Appreciate your response bro. Appreciate you maintaining maturity while stating your opinion, which have been very solid.
Mike
B5150
Legend
It's not the first time someone has behaved this way. There have been dozens who have targeted others as well.
We maintain freedom from censorship when it comes to freedom of expression when done so respectfully.
Everyone is not bashing and talking down everything. Some do and they are reputed for doing so. They do not hold nearly the weight of influence that you give them credit for. Don't waste your time defending the indefensible from the unrelenting.
"The people who matter don't care. The people that care don't matter."
D3Baseball
Member
I can say this -
NMDA isn't abundantly researched...this is just kind of the state of the industry. I can't fault someone for not wanting to take something that doesn't have clearcut research, but I'll also say that if that is the standard you won't have a lot of supplements to choose from.
That's just fine, because we know diet is most of it and training is the rest of it. The boost from most supplements is something at the significance where it's just a little more fun to use them than to not use them.
However, a certain person ITT lost all credibility when they **** on Intimidate and went on to recommend products with no research and equally if not more dubious feedback.
FWIW, I am paid in product by another company so I have nothing to gain by speaking about Intimidate. My anecdotal experience is that I've had very good sleep (while discontinuing all other sleep supps) and enhanced recovery (this could also be affected by Testabolan v2).
NMDA isn't abundantly researched...this is just kind of the state of the industry. I can't fault someone for not wanting to take something that doesn't have clearcut research, but I'll also say that if that is the standard you won't have a lot of supplements to choose from.
That's just fine, because we know diet is most of it and training is the rest of it. The boost from most supplements is something at the significance where it's just a little more fun to use them than to not use them.
However, a certain person ITT lost all credibility when they **** on Intimidate and went on to recommend products with no research and equally if not more dubious feedback.
FWIW, I am paid in product by another company so I have nothing to gain by speaking about Intimidate. My anecdotal experience is that I've had very good sleep (while discontinuing all other sleep supps) and enhanced recovery (this could also be affected by Testabolan v2).
joshv155
New member
So I have been really sick with the flu the past 3 days and have not gotten to the gym. Should I continue taking Intimidate or can I stop for a couple of days and then start again when I fully recover. Other folks that have caught what I have took a week or two to fully recover.
I had started seeing some really good results...all my lifts are heavier and more reps than what I was doing before I was taking Intimidate. I wish I had taken my body fat % before I started to see what those results are.
I had started seeing some really good results...all my lifts are heavier and more reps than what I was doing before I was taking Intimidate. I wish I had taken my body fat % before I started to see what those results are.
VaughnTrue
Well-known member
well Im glad to hear you're enjoying the results from intimidate, it sucks that you got sick!
You can hop off of it and get back on once you get better. Id just suggest getting another bottle so you can run at LEAST 30 days with it, since most significant gains start at end of week 2
Est1969
Active member
FWIW, and update on this issue for me.
I've switched to mid-afternoon dosing on my 2nd bottle of Intimidate. My sleep is back to normal and still enjoying gains on Intimidate. I will continue this way for the balance of the cycle. Gym results posted in the logs section.
Cheers,