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Also i trained shoulders/arms HARD 2 days ago so you would think i wouldn't be able to lift a ton but with technique i was able to isolate my chest with minimal to no help from other muscle groups it takes practice but damn does it work good, I can't wait to see where i'm at in another month since i can hit incline bench correctly with no shoulder pain now!
 
I took some time away. We moved and had a lot of work to do on the house but here I am lol. Should be starting up a joint Finaflex LOG here soon with Doc and Dream Weaver promises to be a good run.
 
TurningGreen said:
I took some time away. We moved and had a lot of work to do on the house but here I am lol. Should be starting up a joint Finaflex LOG here soon with Doc and Dream Weaver promises to be a good run.
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Well that's good man priorities first! Dude i will be in for that shiieeet that's gonna be awesome. Damn i am hungry gotta go get some food!
 
for sure, lower weights concentrationg on negatives and contractions is the way to grow! we are bodybuildiers not powerlifters, so much harder of a way to lift, need the mental strength for sure!...................green, cant wait to see that log
 
mkretz said:
for sure, lower weights concentrationg on negatives and contractions is the way to grow! we are bodybuildiers not powerlifters, so much harder of a way to lift, need the mental strength for sure!...................green, cant wait to see that log
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Thanks bro I'm pumped as hell to get back to work.
 
mkretz said:
for sure, lower weights concentrationg on negatives and contractions is the way to grow! we are bodybuildiers not powerlifters, so much harder of a way to lift, need the mental strength for sure!...................green, cant wait to see that log
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Yeah buddy! It takes a lot more focus and concentration, the weight is important but the control is even more important because muscles do not know weight they know just tension so by keeping the tension you keep all the focus of growth on that muscle/muscles.

TurningGreen said:
Thanks bro I'm pumped as hell to get back to work.
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We are all going to have a badass year!


Did legs today with Intentions, for the first time i literally almost passed out on the gym floor. Did an extended set with squats with heels elevated, pretty much ATG with my quads contracted the ENTIRE time 1 second up 4 seconds down. The drop/extended set almost put me in a sleep i was struggling to catch my breath for a good minute or two. I found a brave soul to do them with me the guy is very smart for just starting off and since he's listening to me he is going to be a beast even with limited resources for food. He got about 3/4 through it then he had to leave he was smoked. I finished my session and was able to stagger out of the gym. My entire body is tired but i feel absolutely huge right now my chest feels full arms/delts the whole deal. I haven't even moved up to the heavy weights yet, so far i've focused on just learning all the technique since i plan to cut some fat for a week or two and see where i'm at. The cool thing is even if i lighten the weights i can increase tension just by using an outward/inward force, so even for drops i can keep maximum tension on the muscle on the negative portion. Once i get into heavy again my main focus on lifts will be push the weight up for a 1 second count and lower with full intentions on the negative. My goal every set is at least 8 reps with 1 up/4 down cadence no pause at top or bottom. Gives me a clear cut goal each set!
 
And also today i trained calves the CORRECT way for the very first time, there are small details overlooked by most people like for seated raises you want to focus on coming up onto your big toe, the first time i did it just in my chair and my calve almost cramped up. Calves usually require more tension time so i did 4 sets all with drops with 1 second up 4/down, they were screaming!! Also for standing you have to keep your quad contracted and your leg locked which i wasn't doing, 4 sets of those i only used 60Lbs so i have tons of room to grow.

Also for lying leg curls i tried it the correct way with my hips driving into the seat and my knees actually lift off the pad and i actually couldn't physically contract my hamstring because every single time even with just 30lbs they would cramp up. That shows you that i am so focused on the contraction that my muscles literally cannot handle the tension yet which is an extremely good sign. Stiff legged deadlifts are my main focus right now with toes elevated on a plate and initiating the movement with my glutes/hams not hyper extending my back to keep the tension there as well. I can tell you i have never had such a thorough leg session like this EVER. I will have some super-freaky legs by the end of the year without a doubt no PH's nothing, i really feel i'm not going to need anything except food/training/focus to get what i want. I also am switching to just day on/day off hitting each bodypart every 6 days now which is what i feel will be optimal for growth since i recover about 4-5 days after a session with the current training style. I may even go to higher frequency depending on how i feel down the road but for now it's 1 step at a time!
 
FINALLY, i have noticed a drastic difference in my forearms from everything because your grip really is the link to applying most of the intention principles. WIN/WIN!
 
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Even though my arms are STILL not really in the proportion i want i'm happy with how this shot is looking so far, i obviously need to lean up and improve my traps (working on it)

I know i'm no-where comparable but i'm beginning to get a Dennis Wolf style impression in back shots maybe? Not size wise but shape wise?
 
thetinyguy said:
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Even though my arms are STILL not really in the proportion i want i'm happy with how this shot is looking so far, i obviously need to lean up and improve my traps (working on it)

I know i'm no-where comparable but i'm beginning to get a Dennis Wolf style impression in back shots maybe? Not size wise but shape wise?
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the only way to see that kind of shape is lean down become lean (like 10-12 % or less and even then you cant see much) so realy the only way it to get in the single diggits and preferally "ripped" then you will know

I wouldnt worry about that now though at your stage. Id lean down and I would take it too extreme , Id wait to build more size. Youll be surprised how small you really are when that bodyfat comes off.

Your still in the beginning stages of bodybuilding and you are far ahead of most at this stage. Keep up the good work, it takes time and is a long boring process(yet fun if you enjoy it=) )
 
John Smeton said:
the only way to see that kind of shape is lean down become lean (like 10-12 % or less and even then you cant see much) so realy the only way it to get in the single diggits and preferally "ripped" then you will know

I wouldnt worry about that now though at your stage. Id lean down and I would take it too extreme , Id wait to build more size. Youll be surprised how small you really are when that bodyfat comes off.

Your still in the beginning stages of bodybuilding and you are far ahead of most at this stage. Keep up the good work, it takes time and is a long boring process(yet fun if you enjoy it=) )
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Good advice John. Hey tiny 550XD log starting up Monday I'll hit ya with a link
 
Love to have ya Tiny!!
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Just sub'd! Looking forward to see how 550xd works for ya man i might consider it if it works well :)
 
AWWWW SHIEEEEET YOUR BOY CAN NOW DO BARBELL CURLS WITH NO WRIST PAIN! Also found an overhead tricep movement with a rope and a chair that i can go really heavy with no elbow pain!

Today did boulder shoulders and arms, every single lift i improved on! Close grip bench i did this INSANE drop set starting at 175 x 8 then dropped to 155, 135 and finally 115 but i had two people strip the plates and i NEVER racked it. Also keep in mind ALL my lifts i do 1 second up/ 4 seconds down so this set was like 1minute plus long!!

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Barbell curls are BOSS AS F*CK i had so much damn tension on my bi's with just the bar and a dime on each side! My tri's have been blowing up i showed a few guys at the gym then and this was an off day he was like holy **** your tris are getting huge :)

I'm testing out Humapro right now by ALR as well, my first impression was usually after a whey post workout shake im bloated and don't want to eat but this stuff sailed right through me and gave me actually some energy and i ate about 20 minutes later haha
 
thetinyguy said:
AWWWW SHIEEEEET YOUR BOY CAN NOW DO BARBELL CURLS WITH NO WRIST PAIN! Also found an overhead tricep movement with a rope and a chair that i can go really heavy with no elbow pain!

Today did boulder shoulders and arms, every single lift i improved on! Close grip bench i did this INSANE drop set starting at 175 x 8 then dropped to 155, 135 and finally 115 but i had two people strip the plates and i NEVER racked it. Also keep in mind ALL my lifts i do 1 second up/ 4 seconds down so this set was like 1minute plus long!!

Pretty much like this only with less weight haha Invalid Link Removed

Barbell curls are BOSS AS F*CK i had so much damn tension on my bi's with just the bar and a dime on each side! My tri's have been blowing up i showed a few guys at the gym then and this was an off day he was like holy **** your tris are getting huge :)

I'm testing out Humapro right now by ALR as well, my first impression was usually after a whey post workout shake im bloated and don't want to eat but this stuff sailed right through me and gave me actually some energy and i ate about 20 minutes later haha
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Nice!
Damn. Lovin the poliquin style slow burn eh? Damn that's rough. I tend to naturally do a 3-0-x type lifting but damn 4seconds feels like an eternity lol.
 
mattrag said:
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Damn. Lovin the poliquin style slow burn eh? Damn that's rough. I tend to naturally do a 3-0-x type lifting but damn 4seconds feels like an eternity lol.
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Agreed thats tempo is pretty epic for strip sets without racking the weight...well played Tiny.
 
mattrag said:
Nice!
Damn. Lovin the poliquin style slow burn eh? Damn that's rough. I tend to naturally do a 3-0-x type lifting but damn 4seconds feels like an eternity lol.
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It's honestly one of the best things i've ever done with my training because NOW i am almost back up and past my old weights just blasting through them but with complete control! It does suck though at first but once you re-learn all the movements like that it becomes second nature and that's where the gains start rolling in.

TurningGreen said:
Agreed thats tempo is pretty epic for strip sets without racking the weight...well played Tiny.
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Thanks man it's rough but all i was thinking about was MASSIVE HORSESHOE TRI'S the entire set haha
 
I read the last couple updates!
Sounds like you're making progress.... Thought u were dropping weight? For some reason I thought u were in the 240s....

You're right when I focus tension on calfs they cramp bad.... I like using the leg press machine to beat the calfs up now.

John is right.... Even with me being 200, once I lose body fat I know I would look small, muscle would show but it wouldnt be big at all. I'm working at growing just like u and it's a long slow process, but I def want to drop some body fat to see where I'm at....


Keep up the good work!
 
keep it up man.....this is the way to train for sure! btw how much longer you get this hghpro for?
 
AaronJP1 said:
I read the last couple updates!
Sounds like you're making progress.... Thought u were dropping weight? For some reason I thought u were in the 240s....

You're right when I focus tension on calfs they cramp bad.... I like using the leg press machine to beat the calfs up now.

John is right.... Even with me being 200, once I lose body fat I know I would look small, muscle would show but it wouldnt be big at all. I'm working at growing just like u and it's a long slow process, but I def want to drop some body fat to see where I'm at....


Keep up the good work!
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Thanks man, it's been working so far i noticed today at work my calves are starting to respond! I'm leaning out right now, my weight jumped up because my appetite was ridiculous haha

mkretz said:
keep it up man.....this is the way to train for sure! btw how much longer you get this hghpro for?
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I'm about 1/3 the way through my last bottle so by the end of this month!
 
Just cut out mass gainer shakes from my diet, food intake is still the same. Insane how fast my body responded i'm down to 244Lbs and without a doubt leaner, added in 15-30 min of cardio 3x a week. One day might be HIIT style and the other steady state. Calories are right around 4k! I'm keeping calories up there and just adding in more activity. I like it a ton better so far i have more energy and feel great :)
 
thetinyguy said:
AWWWW SHIEEEEET YOUR BOY CAN NOW DO BARBELL CURLS WITH NO WRIST PAIN! Also found an overhead tricep movement with a rope and a chair that i can go really heavy with no elbow pain!

Today did boulder shoulders and arms, every single lift i improved on! Close grip bench i did this INSANE drop set starting at 175 x 8 then dropped to 155, 135 and finally 115 but i had two people strip the plates and i NEVER racked it. Also keep in mind ALL my lifts i do 1 second up/ 4 seconds down so this set was like 1minute plus long!!

Pretty much like this only with less weight haha Invalid Link Removed

Barbell curls are BOSS AS F*CK i had so much damn tension on my bi's with just the bar and a dime on each side! My tri's have been blowing up i showed a few guys at the gym then and this was an off day he was like holy **** your tris are getting huge :)

I'm testing out Humapro right now by ALR as well, my first impression was usually after a whey post workout shake im bloated and don't want to eat but this stuff sailed right through me and gave me actually some energy and i ate about 20 minutes later haha
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have you tried wrist wraps for barbell curls? Barbell curls generally gave my wrist issues and once I used wrist wraps (inzer wrist wraps are king and have lasted me ten years now!) I can do barbell curls without real wrist challenges

keep them elbows healthy and back off when needed and go more reps . That is a big mistake I made I went too heavy, loose form, and too low reps on elbows from 21-24 and by 25 they were wrecked and took a couple good years and I still have to nurture and watch them(they are still not the same)


AaronJP1 said:
ow.

John is right.... Even with me being 200, once I lose body fat I know I would look small, muscle would show but it wouldnt be big at all. I'm working at growing just like u and it's a long slow process, but I def want to drop some body fat to see where I'm at....


Keep up the good work!
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Ive done this though trial and error over the past ten years, cut down , lost too much muscle, and tried it again, and again and again just about every year. Its a whole another ballgame

thetinyguy said:
Thanks man, it's been working so far i noticed today at work my calves are starting to respond! I'm leaning out right now, my weight jumped up because my appetite was ridiculous haha



I'm about 1/3 the way through my last bottle so by the end of this month!
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your welcome to keep it going, try another one of our products , whatever you want my friend, your choice

amazing work Nick, keep it up!
 
John Smeton said:
have you tried wrist wraps for barbell curls? Barbell curls generally gave my wrist issues and once I used wrist wraps (inzer wrist wraps are king and have lasted me ten years now!) I can do barbell curls without real wrist challenges

keep them elbows healthy and back off when needed and go more reps . That is a big mistake I made I went too heavy, loose form, and too low reps on elbows from 21-24 and by 25 they were wrecked and took a couple good years and I still have to nurture and watch them(they are still not the same)




Ive done this though trial and error over the past ten years, cut down , lost too much muscle, and tried it again, and again and again just about every year. Its a whole another ballgame



your welcome to keep it going, try another one of our products , whatever you want my friend, your choice

amazing work Nick, keep it up!
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Wow thanks man!! I'll think of something next, i think Stoked possibly? :D

mkretz said:
damn, what an offer!!! u do do some "epic" logs haha
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Ahaha thanks man i appreciate that!
 
Woke up right at 243Lbs again, i'm beginning to look a lot better! I can say without a doubt stand outs are going to be shoulders and arms just standing relaxed, but as soon as i pull my arms up and my back begins to flare out they look soooo small haha, they have better shape the leaner i get but it's just so funny how my back just comes out and is all ALPHA. Still working on my chest, yesterday my workout was epic here it is, all exercises done with a 1 concentric 4 eccentric no pause on full stretch or top (no lockout) I'm just posting my last set which i do 3-4 drop sets with less than 10 seconds rest in between this type of training is brutal and i need to back off every 4-5 weeks but i swear i've never grown as fast as i have been lately. I keep getting those corny arm comments now! xD

4/7/12 Chest/Back
Decline Bench - 215 x 8 + Drops
Flat Bench - 195 x 4 + Drops
Incline Bench - 145 x 7 + Drops
Assisted Dips - -50 x 9 + Drops
Wide Grip Assisted Pull-Ups - -50 x 8 + Drops
Bent Over BB Row - 215 x 10 + Drops
Hammer Wide-Grip Pull-Down - 120 x 8 + Drops
T-Bar Row - 150 x 7 + Drops
Behind Neck Pull-Down - 100 x 9 (No drops for safety)
Straight Arm Pull-Down - 45 x 8 + Drops

I really REALLY had to drop my ego when i started this training, 4 second negatives with intentions are so damn hard especially when you are doing DROP SETS on wide grip pull ups, my arms/shoulders/back were on FIRE but the pump and tension/time under tension were insane. I didn't do drops on wide grip pull ups till this workout so after that i was really toast. For chest i'm getting used to the intensity so to speak and have better control every week. I'll be at these weights for next workout as well and just aim for 12-15 reps which should not be a problem since my nutrition is adequate.
 
No shame in the numbers bro! I catch a lot of crap from people at my gym because I lift lighter than what I appear I should be lifting. People just don't understand the process and mind set. The dude I used to lift with is doing his own thing now because he just couldn't understand what I was trying to do. He'd always be like dood why you lifting those b!tch weights or dood why you lifting like a pu$$y. The other day he just sent me a text saying he had to take some time off because he has an umbilical hernia...not trying to be a d!ck, but who's the b!tch now...b!itch!!!!!
 
TurningGreen said:
No shame in the numbers bro! I catch a lot of crap from people at my gym because I lift lighter than what I appear I should be lifting. People just don't understand the process and mind set. The dude I used to lift with is doing his own thing now because he just couldn't understand what I was trying to do. He'd always be like dood why you lifting those b!tch weights or dood why you lifting like a pu$$y. The other day he just sent me a text saying he had to take some time off because he has an umbilical hernia...not trying to be a d!ck, but who's the b!tch now...b!itch!!!!!
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People are just so damn egotistical that's just why haha, There's a natural guy in my gym like that and a friend made a real good point he said the moment he gets an injury he'll be gone forever. Some people definitely learn the hard way!
 
thetinyguy said:
Woke up right at 243Lbs again, i'm beginning to look a lot better! I can say without a doubt stand outs are going to be shoulders and arms just standing relaxed, but as soon as i pull my arms up and my back begins to flare out they look soooo small haha, they have better shape the leaner i get but it's just so funny how my back just comes out and is all ALPHA. Still working on my chest, yesterday my workout was epic here it is, all exercises done with a 1 concentric 4 eccentric no pause on full stretch or top (no lockout) I'm just posting my last set which i do 3-4 drop sets with less than 10 seconds rest in between this type of training is brutal and i need to back off every 4-5 weeks but i swear i've never grown as fast as i have been lately. I keep getting those corny arm comments now! xD

4/7/12 Chest/Back
Decline Bench - 215 x 8 + Drops
Flat Bench - 195 x 4 + Drops
Incline Bench - 145 x 7 + Drops
Assisted Dips - -50 x 9 + Drops
Wide Grip Assisted Pull-Ups - -50 x 8 + Drops
Bent Over BB Row - 215 x 10 + Drops
Hammer Wide-Grip Pull-Down - 120 x 8 + Drops
T-Bar Row - 150 x 7 + Drops
Behind Neck Pull-Down - 100 x 9 (No drops for safety)
Straight Arm Pull-Down - 45 x 8 + Drops

I really REALLY had to drop my ego when i started this training, 4 second negatives with intentions are so damn hard especially when you are doing DROP SETS on wide grip pull ups, my arms/shoulders/back were on FIRE but the pump and tension/time under tension were insane. I didn't do drops on wide grip pull ups till this workout so after that i was really toast. For chest i'm getting used to the intensity so to speak and have better control every week. I'll be at these weights for next workout as well and just aim for 12-15 reps which should not be a problem since my nutrition is adequate.
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So what you're saying is you're growing off higher reps & lighter weight?
 
AaronJP1 said:
So what you're saying is you're growing off higher reps & lighter weight?
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Well it depends on the duration of the set, some people throw around weights for say 6 reps but they do it so quick that you barely have any time under tension. I'm staying with the weights i'm at so it's not necessarily "light" but you gotta fail in that 12-15 rep range is what i'm saying, most people think oh light weight i can just easily get 12-15 but you want those last reps in the 12-15 range to be TOUGH. Get what i'm sayin?

Stiff legs are at 265 x 8 but i stood on the deadlift platform so i was able to almost touch my toes with the bar. Same 1 second up 4 seconds down cadence and i DID NOT lockout, it's safe to say i'm getting strong at these now!!

Also my aggression was WAYYYY up today, i felt like i wanted to break plates in half!
 
Started my new split today: Chest/Tri's , Back/Bi's , Shoulders , Legs. Instead of training 9 or so hours a week with my old split this one i can train even harder on a body part and it has 8 days to recover, pretty much NO training crossover either. 5-6 hours a week MAX training now meaning lower cortisol levels.

Chest Tri's, Somewhat of a deload week still not going for max weights just EPIC pumps!
Decline Bench 195 x 11 R/P
Flat Bench 145 x 11 R/P With feet up (made it a little harder but my chest was on fire)
Incline Bench 145 x 11 R/P
Incline DB Press 30 x 10 With feet up/slow reps
Dips -90 x 12 + Drop
Decline Close Grip Bench 165 x 10 R/P
Reverse Grip Pushdowns 60 x 12 R/P
Seated Overhead Rope Extension 55 x 20
 
John Smeton said:
thetinyguy said:
Wow thanks man!! I'll think of something next, i think Stoked possibly? :D



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I hear you on agression being up which translate to awesome workouts! Keep up the nice work Nick
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Almost done with HGHPro, loved this stuff! I definitely grew and made some great progress.

It was funny cause i was so focused last workout that a friend thought there was "something wrong" haha i told him nope just gettin in the zone and getting serious.
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TurningGreen said:
No shame in the numbers bro! I catch a lot of crap from people at my gym because I lift lighter than what I appear I should be lifting. People just don't understand the process and mind set. The dude I used to lift with is doing his own thing now because he just couldn't understand what I was trying to do. He'd always be like dood why you lifting those b!tch weights or dood why you lifting like a pu$$y. The other day he just sent me a text saying he had to take some time off because he has an umbilical hernia...not trying to be a d!ck, but who's the b!tch now...b!itch!!!!!
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That's why we do what we do for us. I try to beat me and me only, **** all the others. 90% of the peeps going heavier than me have form so ****tty that they are just asking to be hurt.
 
mkretz said:
thetinyguy said:
thats the way to lift brotha.......dont bother me when im lifting, bottom line, unless u wanna spot me lol
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Exactly!

Found a new person that motivates me, looks really complete and says he's drug free. Super intelligent as well.

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Did Back/Bi's today, went for HUGE time under tension (1-2minutes) Since i'm on somewhat of a deload i'm aiming for insane crazy pumps with rest/pause. Calves LOVE these plus drop sets, Literally did 1 set of standing calve raises which i started at 120Lbs x 15...r/p 3 more reps...r/p 2 more reps......r/p 2 more reps drop the weight repeat r/p 3x for that weight until i've dropped the weight to 30lbs (drops are 30lb increments) set was like 3-4 minutes long and as soon as i got off the standing calve raise machine went to bodyweight with r/p. They were ON FIRE OH MY GOD! Did some 30 second stretching and was done with them they were pumped into oblivion and i was shaking trying to walk around. They are responding very well to this!!

HOnestly not really sure how many reps i did for some of these, all i know is that the sets were all pretty much 2 minutes and gave me INSANE pumps.

Wide Grip Assisted Pull-ups -90 x 15 R/P + drops
Bent Over Row BB 95 x 30 R/P Also tried underhand grip and i like it!
Hammer Wide Grip Pulldown 80 x 20 R/P
T-Bar row 125 x 11 R/P
Behind neck pulldown 80 x 20 R/P
Deadlifts (FRIED AT THIS POINT) 135 x 10 , 225 x 4. Done with shoulder blades pinched together to activate traps *which were just done* FIgured back was done and went to bi's.
BB Curls 65 x 15 R/P drop to bar
Incline DB curl 20 x 7, immediately stood up and did standing alternating then immediately to pinwheel curls and finally cross body supination. TOTAL HELL.
Reverse Cable Curls 25 x 20 R/P Went with a weight i could "feel" sharp contractions and now my brachialis is cramping up! Must have done it right xD
Standing Calve Raise 120Lbs 4 Minute extended set immediately followed by bodyweight calve stretching. TRY THIS IF YOUR CALVES DO NOT GROW, Focus on coming up onto your big toe and keep your knee's locked to get full calve stimulation, go for that super tight contraction the weight is irrelevant!

This new split is working amazingly so far, workouts average 1 hour 15 minutes. Appetite seems to be rising, chest LOVES r/p without a doubt i can see it. When bulking i will go heavier and aim for a weight to get 6-8 reps followed by rest/pause then drops. IF YOUR FORM IS NOT GOOD DO NOT TRY THIS YOU WILL TEAR YOUR SH*T UP, ALSO USE FULL RANGE OF MOTION (or the most comfortable without joint issues) CONTROL THE WEIGHT WITH CONTRACTIONS. Most of all make sure you listen to how your body "feels" I'm really getting into the feel of exercises on the muscle and not so much the weight because the thing you can't see is how hard i'm making that muscle contract. I could make 20lbs feel like 40lbs but if i use say 30-40lbs i might now feel it at all. You will know what weight is perfect because the muscle will contract way harder than with other weights. Tension and time build muscle, the weights are just there as an accessory to help.
 
John Smeton said:
your trained had evolved...goodwork

just curious where do you get these training ideas from?
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Thanks :)

Dude i spend soo much time just looking at pro's training, combining different methods. SO far my favorite basic layout is MI40 by Ben Pakulski, DoggCrapp is up there too but i'm not ready for it. I really would like to combine this "lighter" style of training with some lighter extreme stretching. Kind of like a noob-ish DC..

Also i'm starting to believe that the more you progress and the harder you train to make more progress, that you need more rest. I'm now up to 8 days rest before training a bodypart again but i'm in the gym for less time/more intensity. My set rest is like 30-45 seconds sometimes 1-2 minutes to be 100% for the next exercise. One thing is for sure though, rest/pause is GREAT, even with "lighter" weights it works awesome. My tri's have responded a little bit which is an awesome sign!
 
mkretz said:
dunno how much of a deload thatis with all those RPS and drops lol nice work though!
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Haha it's hard to explain, these weights are all almost half of what i was using if that helps too :)

I will tell you the pump is absolutely incredible too! Pretty much when i bulk, all my poundages will go up. I'm still in a calorie deficit and working on getting more bodyfat off so for now it's just about making those lighter weights feel a lot heavier than they are!
 
im dointeh same thing right now.....real low weights but focusingon slow negatives and good contractionsandthe weihts are soo lightbt the sets are soo hard lol....im jsutnot oing the drops and RP
 
mkretz said:
im dointeh same thing right now.....real low weights but focusingon slow negatives and good contractionsandthe weihts are soo lightbt the sets are soo hard lol....im jsutnot oing the drops and RP
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See that's what i mean, it's honestly HARDER because when you fail with a heavy weight you set it down and that's it. These sets however YOU have control it's just about how far you can handle the pain. The weights can be light-moderate and feel 3x as heavy AND you have more control, the RP and drops help you take the set even farther. The hormone response just from the body alone is going to be HUGE. So my theory for the most mass/strength while on a calorie surplus would be to use a weight you can get 6 reps with 1 second up/4 seconds down do the 6 reps then use RP 3x with solid form or however many you can, drop the weight 20% do as many reps, than do RP 2x, drop the weight and do as many reps as you can and if you can, drop the weight again and do as many as you can. This is a 1 SET ANNIHILATION SET, the previous sets are just used to get your muscles "firing" into the right way. For the last set say you use a new weight, do a "feeler" set where you do 2-3 reps with 1 up 4 down but do not do more than 3 reps, get the feel for it. Rest 1 minute or so and i am willing to bet the weights will feel somewhat easier not a huge margin but ENOUGH.

If this style works for lighter weights then i have no doubt this will yield insane gains, When i was doing just the drops ALONE. I experienced huge strength gains for about 4 weeks. The training is super super intense but that's why i recommend it only while bulking and once you stop progressing, back off slightly and go for the moderate weights (which will still be heavier then before) it's like your body is NATURALLY periodizing based on the intensity. If you were on drugs you would be a monster on this training and make most of these pro's training apart from a few look like sissy's! But it won't come in one workout, it'll take a lot of time to develop the will power to take these sets as far as you need to.

I will admit some of the principles are kind of ripping off MI40 but i just use it as my base of a program, Without the frequency of course. It calls for something like every 4 days which i know i need more time off.
 
thetinyguy said:
See that's what i mean, it's honestly HARDER because when you fail with a heavy weight you set it down and that's it. These sets however YOU have control it's just about how far you can handle the pain. The weights can be light-moderate and feel 3x as heavy AND you have more control, the RP and drops help you take the set even farther. The hormone response just from the body alone is going to be HUGE. So my theory for the most mass/strength while on a calorie surplus would be to use a weight you can get 6 reps with 1 second up/4 seconds down do the 6 reps then use RP 3x with solid form or however many you can, drop the weight 20% do as many reps, than do RP 2x, drop the weight and do as many reps as you can and if you can, drop the weight again and do as many as you can. This is a 1 SET ANNIHILATION SET, the previous sets are just used to get your muscles "firing" into the right way. For the last set say you use a new weight, do a "feeler" set where you do 2-3 reps with 1 up 4 down but do not do more than 3 reps, get the feel for it. Rest 1 minute or so and i am willing to bet the weights will feel somewhat easier not a huge margin but ENOUGH.

If this style works for lighter weights then i have no doubt this will yield insane gains, When i was doing just the drops ALONE. I experienced huge strength gains for about 4 weeks. The training is super super intense but that's why i recommend it only while bulking and once you stop progressing, back off slightly and go for the moderate weights (which will still be heavier then before) it's like your body is NATURALLY periodizing based on the intensity. If you were on drugs you would be a monster on this training and make most of these pro's training apart from a few look like sissy's! But it won't come in one workout, it'll take a lot of time to develop the will power to take these sets as far as you need to.

I will admit some of the principles are kind of ripping off MI40 but i just use it as my base of a program, Without the frequency of course. It calls for something like every 4 days which i know i need more time off.
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Very similar to my training right now. 2 working sets straight into 2 strip sets until failure. Yeah my numbers look weak, but the yields are unspeakable. My strength is constantly on the up and the strain on the joints is minimal. Ive been slowly increasing weight usually no more than five pounds on sets that are too easy, but there has been a constant and steady increase. That is progress in my book.

John Is right, your training has surely evolved! excellent work bro.
 
TurningGreen said:
Very similar to my training right now. 2 working sets straight into 2 strip sets until failure. Yeah my numbers look weak, but the yields are unspeakable. My strength is constantly on the up and the strain on the joints is minimal. Ive been slowly increasing weight usually no more than five pounds on sets that are too easy, but there has been a constant and steady increase. That is progress in my book.

John Is right, your training has surely evolved! excellent work bro.
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Numbers are irrelevant anyways, i think control and concentration can bring more intensity than the big weights can if you do it right. That's awesome man, pretty much what i'm doing right now as well. Those small increments add up too!

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About to hit legs HARD AS F#CK TODAY! R/P and drop set time heheheheh....
 
mkretz said:
nice work....this slow temp with high reps is tearin me apart, not gonna lie
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Yeah man....hurts a ton but is worth it! Did rest/pause on leg press today holy hell it SUCKED. I definitely get an increase in aggression on leg day from doing drops and rest/pause. Holds more truth to that "hormone release" from less rest between sets.
 
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