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Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

BriceBurnsRed said:
I am 21, so this does happen to be my first cycle.. I've done a decent amount of research on the topic, but I wanted to come here for some clarification.

On the Formadrol, how do I know if I Need something during my cycle? What signs determine this?

I can afford an extra bottle of each easily, so if need be I will get more if a longer cycle is recommended, I just don't want to overdo it my first time.
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21, that's just borderline ... my first advice has to be stock pile hormonal supps for a couple to 3 more years. If you are going to not heed that advice then low dose it. 2 ed of 1-andro for 4 weeks then 2 of epi-v for 4 weeks after. That is if you're going to peak in 8 weeks. If not just save the Epi-v for another day. Again I really suggest option number 1...
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Why do you suggest this? Just curious.

Are there more negatives than positives for running a cycle at my age?
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Yah I am a bit over cautious but yah hormonal manipulation is not a good idea till your about 21 but some would be better to wait longer.
 
That is understandable and I appreciate the concern. I know Anabolics are nothing to mess around with if you don't know what you are doing. I suppose I'm just impatient Haha. From the research I have done I figured these two supps would be a decent starting point, without the risk of messing myself up if I jumped into a cycle of D-Bol or another powerful AS.
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
That is understandable and I appreciate the concern. I know Anabolics are nothing to mess around with if you don't know what you are doing. I suppose I'm just impatient Haha. From the research I have done I figured these two supps would be a decent starting point, without the risk of messing myself up if I jumped into a cycle of D-Bol or another powerful AS.
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And you're thinking right, when you do start into this mild is the way to go. I understand impatience. This is a sport where we have to learn patience though. You are young and have tons of potential without using hormonal s save it for when you start to plateau
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Why do you suggest this? Just curious.

Are there more negatives than positives for running a cycle at my age?
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Brice... it isn't so much that you are more at risk, it is just you are so young and your hormones are raging as it is, why not tap into that natural raging hormonal beast you have inside and ride the lightening so to speak for as long as you can, then in your mid-late twenties when things begin to plateau a little, then start a little cycle of this that or the other here and there! That is both my personal and professional advice, just looking out for you Bro! I mean think of it like this, if we didn't care, we are Sales Reps, we SELL, and we are telling you to hold off, get me? Why would we lie, LoL?

Anyway, you can take our advice for what it is... Advice, if you choose not to take it we will not be offended and will continue to help you with cycle and dosing information to the best of our ability, IMO you are a grown man totally capable of making your own decisions!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Brice... it isn't so much that you are more at risk, it is just you are so young and your hormones are raging as it is, why not tap into that natural raging hormonal beast you have inside and ride the lightening so to speak for as long as you can, then in your mid-late twenties when things begin to plateau a little, then start a little cycle of this that or the other here and there! That is both my personal and professional advice, just looking out for you Bro! I mean think of it like this, if we didn't care, we are Sales Reps, we SELL, and we are telling you to hold off, get me? Why would we lie, LoL?

Anyway, you can take our advice for what it is... Advice, if you choose not to take it we will not be offended and will continue to help you with cycle and dosing information to the best of our ability, IMO you are a grown man totally capable of making your own decisions!
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Yes our advice is just based on what is best for you. 21 is supposed to be the "safe" age so I am probably being a little cautious but that is heavliy influenced by what Al is saying as well.

Plus it takes time to discover what our potential is, and that is better assessed without hormonals, reach your peak then add in hormonals later.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yes our advice is just based on what is best for you. 21 is supposed to be the "safe" age so I am probably being a little cautious but that is heavliy influenced by what Al is saying as well.

Plus it takes time to discover what our potential is, and that is better assessed without hormonals, reach your peak then add in hormonals later.
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You both make very legitimate and excellent points, and have pretty well convinced me out of running anything at the moment lol. If you wanted to sell the crap of of your product I'd be a perfect candidate, but you are not, and I really appreciate that integrity.

My impatience mostly comes from being "the fat kid" growing up. From about 6th grade on I was a pretty chubby kid and maxed out at around 225 at the start of my senior year, I finally said eff this and made up my mind I was going to lose the weight. In around 3-4 months I dropped to 150, and I was happy for a while, but I was still skinny fat. Enter: Weightlifting. I read every magazine article, blog post, and forum thread I possibly could and started to soak up the knowledge. I feel I have a pretty decent understanding of what it takes to put on muscle/lose fat, but I know I still have a TON to learn.

I'm sitting around 160-165 at the moment, my ultimate goal is to be lean enough to get rid of the last of my love handles/lower belly fat (a constant struggle) and be able to see all 6 of my abs. I am not sure of my current bf% but i'd guess 10-15%? I can see my upper ab's but I still have a bit of fat on my upper body that doesn't want to go away. I try to keep my diet clean but I work a 12-8 full time job most days and I have school, so its tough.

Summary: I want to get shredded for the summer and still put on some muscle. I have read and seen great things from Epi-V as far as the cutting properties go, so, I was thinking of running a 6 week cycle of Just that at 3/d. If I am understanding correctly Epi-V isn't as harsh/supressive as the 1A would be. Is this a decent idea, or would you both still recommend I wait?

Again, thank's for all the advice, it is much appreciated!
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
You both make very legitimate and excellent points, and have pretty well convinced me out of running anything at the moment lol. If you wanted to sell the crap of of your product I'd be a perfect candidate, but you are not, and I really appreciate that integrity.

My impatience mostly comes from being "the fat kid" growing up. From about 6th grade on I was a pretty chubby kid and maxed out at around 225 at the start of my senior year, I finally said eff this and made up my mind I was going to lose the weight. In around 3-4 months I dropped to 150, and I was happy for a while, but I was still skinny fat. Enter: Weightlifting. I read every magazine article, blog post, and forum thread I possibly could and started to soak up the knowledge. I feel I have a pretty decent understanding of what it takes to put on muscle/lose fat, but I know I still have a TON to learn.

I'm sitting around 160-165 at the moment, my ultimate goal is to be lean enough to get rid of the last of my love handles/lower belly fat (a constant struggle) and be able to see all 6 of my abs. I am not sure of my current bf% but i'd guess 10-15%? I can see my upper ab's but I still have a bit of fat on my upper body that doesn't want to go away. I try to keep my diet clean but I work a 12-8 full time job most days and I have school, so its tough.

Summary: I want to get shredded for the summer and still put on some muscle. I have read and seen great things from Epi-V as far as the cutting properties go, so, I was thinking of running a 6 week cycle of Just that at 3/d. If I am understanding correctly Epi-V isn't as harsh/supressive as the 1A would be. Is this a decent idea, or would you both still recommend I wait?

Again, thank's for all the advice, it is much appreciated!
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Yah take care of the insides and the outsides will take care of themselves, not let low self esteem take the wheel... In my opinion that's God's job :)
 
Brice... although we are currently against you doing a cycle, we are still both excellent pre-contest dieters, with LOGs to prove our experience, if you need help dieting (80+%) of what you are trying to accomplish... Just ask and though shall receive!!!
 
Since this thread is more active than the epi v thread I guess I'll ask this here.

When will epi v be back in stock at NP?
 
ScottyDoc and DreamWeaver,

I got all the goodies (1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 2 bottles of PCT Revolution and 1 bottle of Pure Test). I am planning on running them soon or maybe hold them a bit more. I saw this Hormone Regulation Kit RD by AMS on sale so I might buy it and run this first since it looks weaker than the Finaflex 1-ANDRO. Or should I just run the Finaflex cycle first and then do the regulation kit cycle?
 
ScottyDoc said:
Brice... although we are currently against you doing a cycle, we are still both excellent pre-contest dieters, with LOGs to prove our experience, if you need help dieting (80+%) of what you are trying to accomplish... Just ask and though shall receive!!!
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Thank you both again for all the advice and words of wisdom. Regarding your logs, it's funny because I actually looked into both of your logs the other day and was very impressed with your results. You both clearly know what you are doing and have an astronomical amount of knowledge on the subject of bodybuilding/nutrition.

As far as the Dieting goes.. I have recently been looking into the "Lean Gains/IF" diet and it looks pretty spot on for my goals. I've tried a couple different approaches to dieting in the past and I was always miserable, and I am not a big fan of cardio, I will do it if I have to though.
I guess ideally, I'd like to spare the most muscle while getting lean, which is why I initially turned to prohormones/anabolics. I originally thought the Epi-V would be perfect for me because it's supposedly great for leaning out. Because it's so mild would you both still recommend I not run even a cycle of the EV alone? Or would a simple diet change-up be all I need..
 
ScottyDoc said:
1-ANDRO is not all that wet, but it is no where near as dry and good of a cutting agent as EPI-V. What DW is trying to say is most people doing a bridge cycle of your kind will start with the bulking agent and then end with the cutting agent, you are doing it the opposite way! I agree with DW and advise you change what you are doing, but if you decide to heed our advice, I would love to hear what your results were doing it "backwards" so to speak! I'm in for the knowledge/experience!!!
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Interesting indeed. I would assume if one bridged 1Andro off of Epi and kept the nutrition clean that's one may see an increase in mass while still staying stripped down. I would even go as far as throwing in an AI during the 1Andro...like PCT black (one a day) to keep whatever water 1Andro may add (if any). I would also like to see what would happen bridging Epi/1Andro/Epi-V. However if it were me I'd probably be shut down as a mofo...may want to look into a SERM (taking into account availability) If you're going to fly that route. definitely keep us up in your results.
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Thank you both again for all the advice and words of wisdom. Regarding your logs, it's funny because I actually looked into both of your logs the other day and was very impressed with your results. You both clearly know what you are doing and have an astronomical amount of knowledge on the subject of bodybuilding/nutrition.

As far as the Dieting goes.. I have recently been looking into the "Lean Gains/IF" diet and it looks pretty spot on for my goals. I've tried a couple different approaches to dieting in the past and I was always miserable, and I am not a big fan of cardio, I will do it if I have to though.
I guess ideally, I'd like to spare the most muscle while getting lean, which is why I initially turned to prohormones/anabolics. I originally thought the Epi-V would be perfect for me because it's supposedly great for leaning out. Because it's so mild would you both still recommend I not run even a cycle of the EV alone? Or would a simple diet change-up be all I need..
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Hey Brice,
I think if you're extremely careful and just run 1 bottle of Epi-V with probably 2 PCT BLACKS, so you do it during and after cycle you will be safe. Also a Pure Test for PCT, milk thistle and extra saw palmeto. I am new to PH as well, trying to run my first cycle with more caution than gains possibly, but I want to see how my body reacts first, then go from there. I saw this video on youtube, this kid used 1-andro and 1 pct revolution and got good gains with no side effects, but everyone is different. BUT at the end, listen to ScottyDoc or DreamWeaver, they are the Pros.
 
TurningGreen said:
Interesting indeed. I would assume if one bridged 1Andro off of Epi and kept the nutrition clean that's one may see an increase in mass while still staying stripped down. I would even go as far as throwing in an AI during the 1Andro...like PCT black (one a day) to keep whatever water 1Andro may add (if any). I would also like to see what would happen bridging Epi/1Andro/Epi-V. However if it were me I'd probably be shut down as a mofo...may want to look into a SERM (taking into account availability) If you're going to fly that route. definitely keep us up in your results.
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Guess I was late on that one...stupid IPhone lol
 
Dear Brice,I know it is very easy to take the route of the "magic pill" and don't get me wrong Epi-V is an OUTSTANDING cutting agent next to nothing I've ever used in the past. IMHO if you started Monday with a nutrition overhaul you could easily meet your goals by summer. By the time you reach that goal you will have new goals because that's how we are programed lol...and you know what? The Epi-V will still be on the shelves and you can take your new body to a whole different level.

Nutrition is the KEY it is the underlying factor in the success of any strength athlete or even just us regular dudes looking to be ripped. If you can get you're nutrition dialed in you will be unstoppable, but a PH cycle with out proper nutrition is a straight up waste of $$. Oh and you can absolutely be get ripped as hell with regular training and clean nutrition. It's hard work that pays off the supplements just well...supplement that hard work.

Good luck my brotha!
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Hey Brice,
I think if you're extremely careful and just run 1 bottle of Epi-V with probably 2 PCT BLACKS, so you do it during and after cycle you will be safe. Also a Pure Test for PCT, milk thistle and extra saw palmeto. I am new to PH as well, trying to run my first cycle with more caution than gains possibly, but I want to see how my body reacts first, then go from there. I saw this video on youtube, this kid used 1-andro and 1 pct revolution and got good gains with no side effects, but everyone is different. BUT at the end, listen to ScottyDoc or DreamWeaver, they are the Pros.
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Hey bro PCT Post Cycle Therapy products are designed to help jump start the body's natural ability to produce testosterone and block the unwanted effects of estrogen as during a PH cycle we are altering the body's natural chemistry Adding in a bunch of other supplements or upping the dose is not the answer. What Doc and DW are concerned about is the fact that Brice is still young and fully able to produce average or above levels of his own testosterone. What we don't want is to have him use PHs and run the risk of him damaging his natural production of test especially if he is fully capable of good natural production. I don't want to sound like grandpa, PHs are not a joke you have to be ready mentally and physically to run them correctly. You should have an above average grasp on nutrition philosophies and have a game plan for hitting the weights. Don't get me wrong...I fully endorse the use of PHs and have used Epi-V in the past, but like I said these are powerful compounds that demand respect. If not one could permanently damage their body.

Also I don't think that one bottle of Epi-V is going to help Brice achieve that weight loss goal. I would definitely lose as much weight possible naturally and as DW puts it...use Epi-V to peak out. (go from 9% BF to 7% BF for example.
 
HaroldEduardo said:
ScottyDoc and DreamWeaver,

I got all the goodies (1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 2 bottles of PCT Revolution and 1 bottle of Pure Test). I am planning on running them soon or maybe hold them a bit more. I saw this Hormone Regulation Kit RD by AMS on sale so I might buy it and run this first since it looks weaker than the Finaflex 1-ANDRO. Or should I just run the Finaflex cycle first and then do the regulation kit cycle?
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I thought their stuff was kind of similar, but can't really say for sure. 2 step conversion is 2 step conversion though some might have better ingredients to support the process... we just know ours works good.
 
TurningGreen said:
Hey bro PCT Post Cycle Therapy products are designed to help jump start the body's natural ability to produce testosterone and block the unwanted effects of estrogen as during a PH cycle we are altering the body's natural chemistry Adding in a bunch of other supplements or upping the dose is not the answer. What Doc and DW are concerned about is the fact that Brice is still young and fully able to produce average or above levels of his own testosterone. What we don't want is to have him use PHs and run the risk of him damaging his natural production of test especially if he is fully capable of good natural production. I don't want to sound like grandpa, PHs are not a joke you have to be ready mentally and physically to run them correctly. You should have an above average grasp on nutrition philosophies and have a game plan for hitting the weights. Don't get me wrong...I fully endorse the use of PHs and have used Epi-V in the past, but like I said these are powerful compounds that demand respect. If not one could permanently damage their body.

Also I don't think that one bottle of Epi-V is going to help Brice achieve that weight loss goal. I would definitely lose as much weight possible naturally and as DW puts it...use Epi-V to peak out. (go from 9% BF to 7% BF for example.
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Well said... and if you can't do it without the supps then using them will only leave you disappointed, supps are to enhance what you already know how to do... If you don't know how to do it...well do the math.

There are so many things a young man is going to learn about his body once he starts getting his ducks in a row and good progress will happen if he works hard. The hard work is what gets it done, with or without PH's. If you don't have patience you're not going to make it. I competed naturally for years before I started using these products.
 
Thank you Green and DW for the words of wisdom. I think I've decided to wait on the supps for now and just go at it natty. What would you guys recommend as far as diet goes? Like I've said I have looked into the Lean Gains method recently and I am not quite sure if it fits my goals or not. I've also tried Low-Carbing it but was miserable and felt lethargic most of the time, so I am not exactly sure where to go next..
 
I got all the goodies (1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 2 bottles of PCT Revolution and 1 bottle of Pure Test). I am planning on running them soon or maybe hold them a bit more. I saw this Hormone Regulation Kit RD by AMS on sale so I might buy it and run this first since it looks weaker than the Finaflex 1-ANDRO. Or should I just run the Finaflex cycle first and then do the regulation kit cycle?

what makes you say this?
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Thank you Green and DW for the words of wisdom. I think I've decided to wait on the supps for now and just go at it natty. What would you guys recommend as far as diet goes? Like I've said I have looked into the Lean Gains method recently and I am not quite sure if it fits my goals or not. I've also tried Low-Carbing it but was miserable and felt lethargic most of the time, so I am not exactly sure where to go next..
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I really like LG for cutting its probably the most painless and effective protocol I've found. I know that DW has used LG in the past as well with great success. It's really up to you in the end bro, but I think your choice to really understand your nutritional needs is a smart one. I respect the hell out of that when most would say to hell with it and take the PH anyway. You'll be better off in the long run.
 
hvactech said:
I got all the goodies (1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 2 bottles of PCT Revolution and 1 bottle of Pure Test). I am planning on running them soon or maybe hold them a bit more. I saw this Hormone Regulation Kit RD by AMS on sale so I might buy it and run this first since it looks weaker than the Finaflex 1-ANDRO. Or should I just run the Finaflex cycle first and then do the regulation kit cycle?

what makes you say this?
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Based on reviews all over the place, but I am not 100% sure, I said "it looks". I have no knowledge on PH, never used one. I am looking for the mildest one to run a first cycle, doesn't matter if I gain 20lbs or none. At the end, I will end up running both, so then, I will tell you a good review of both, untill now, all is based on reviews/questions.
 
Thinking about it reasonably, I think I will be too. That opens another question though, im not exactly sure how to make the LG protocol fit into my life. I work kind of weird hours most days (12-8) so its either work out fasted in the morning (wouldn't it be hard to lift heavy/have any type of endurance while in a fasted state?) Or workout after work, and not have a post workout meal.. Also for cutting what should my macros be?
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Thinking about it reasonably, I think I will be too. That opens another question though, im not exactly sure how to make the LG protocol fit into my life. I work kind of weird hours most days (12-8) so its either work out fasted in the morning (wouldn't it be hard to lift heavy/have any type of endurance while in a fasted state?) Or workout after work, and not have a post workout meal.. Also for cutting what should my macros be?
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ive trained fasted for a long time, you'll be surprised how much strength you'll have, i do use aminos pre/intra/post though, you dont have to have a pwo meal, meal timing is irrelevant imo....typically people use a high protein, mod fat and lower carb diet, i myself still have plenty of carbs
 
hvactech said:
ive trained fasted for a long time, you'll be surprised how much strength you'll have, i do use aminos pre/intra/post though, you dont have to have a pwo meal, meal timing is irrelevant imo....typically people use a high protein, mod fat and lower carb diet, i myself still have plenty of carbs
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I have heard you NEED to down a protein shake as soon as your workout is done to take advantage of that hour or so "window" after.. Is this not true?
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Thank you Green and DW for the words of wisdom. I think I've decided to wait on the supps for now and just go at it natty. What would you guys recommend as far as diet goes? Like I've said I have looked into the Lean Gains method recently and I am not quite sure if it fits my goals or not. I've also tried Low-Carbing it but was miserable and felt lethargic most of the time, so I am not exactly sure where to go next..
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Yah I am on LG and love it, it's not low carb it's more like carb cycling really...
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Thinking about it reasonably, I think I will be too. That opens another question though, im not exactly sure how to make the LG protocol fit into my life. I work kind of weird hours most days (12-8) so its either work out fasted in the morning (wouldn't it be hard to lift heavy/have any type of endurance while in a fasted state?) Or workout after work, and not have a post workout meal.. Also for cutting what should my macros be?
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Fasted workouts are great, you just have to keep BCAA's rolling every 3 hours till you break your fast.
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
I have heard you NEED to down a protein shake as soon as your workout is done to take advantage of that hour or so "window" after.. Is this not true?
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Yah that thing about the anabolic window is pure myth... well it's about 8 hours long :) just pig out when it's time to break your fast after a workout... hey I don't use powders at all any more. Why would I when I could have a steak.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah that thing about the anabolic window is pure myth... well it's about 8 hours long :) just pig out when it's time to break your fast after a workout... hey I don't use powders at all any more. Why would I when I could have a steak.
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i stopped buying powders a long time ago.....ecspecially with the cost these days....
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah that thing about the anabolic window is pure myth... well it's about 8 hours long :) just pig out when it's time to break your fast after a workout... hey I don't use powders at all any more. Why would I when I could have a steak.
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Hmm Alrighty.. seems reasonable Haha. LG is like carb cycling because you eat differently on workout days than non?

Also I know its recommended to do 3 full body workouts a week while on LG, well 2 different days split into 3, but what if I workout 5 days a week? Im currently trying out a PHAT routine and I like it so far.
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
Hmm Alrighty.. seems reasonable Haha. LG is like carb cycling because you eat differently on workout days than non?

Also I know its recommended to do 3 full body workouts a week while on LG, well 2 different days split into 3, but what if I workout 5 days a week? Im currently trying out a PHAT routine and I like it so far.
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Yah right on the carb cycling....

You can still eat more on wd's but scale it to the amount you do as compared with what you would do on a 3 day a week routine. I like full body 3 days but it's not necessary. For example what I might do is take the 3 X 1000 extra cals and devide ti by 5 to it's 600 X 5 instead.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah right on the carb cycling....

You can still eat more on wd's but scale it to the amount you do as compared with what you would do on a 3 day a week routine. I like full body 3 days but it's not necessary. For example what I might do is take the 3 X 1000 extra cals and devide ti by 5 to it's 600 X 5 instead.
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I think I follow.. meaning on workout days eat 600 more calories 5 days a week as opposed to 1000 extra 3 days a week? Also is 300g+ of protein necessary? I only weigh around 165 at the moment so it seems a bit excessive, but I've read with LG you want LOTS of protein, almost more so than similar low carb diets.
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
I think I follow.. meaning on workout days eat 600 more calories 5 days a week as opposed to 1000 extra 3 days a week? Also is 300g+ of protein necessary? I only weigh around 165 at the moment so it seems a bit excessive, but I've read with LG you want LOTS of protein, almost more so than similar low carb diets.
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Branded chains help get your protein synthesis on. 300 g of protein IMO is excessive at 165 lbs. I weigh around 210 and might hit close to that on a good day.
 
BriceBurnsRed said:
I think I follow.. meaning on workout days eat 600 more calories 5 days a week as opposed to 1000 extra 3 days a week? Also is 300g+ of protein necessary? I only weigh around 165 at the moment so it seems a bit excessive, but I've read with LG you want LOTS of protein, almost more so than similar low carb diets.
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Yah 300 gram is a lot but if you work out your macro ration and figure out how many grams of protein that works out to based on your calorie intake then that is what you should take. For instance if you are eating 2500 cals 40% protein that's 1000 cals devided by 4 cals per gram of protein which is 250 grams. I think you want to be at a minimum of 40% and that percentage depends on body type. I take 45-50 cuz I am an endo and want to keep my carbs down. 50/25/25 is pretty good for me. I to higher carbs on workout days and lower on burn days...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah 300 gram is a lot but if you work out your macro ration and figure out how many grams of protein that works out to based on your calorie intake then that is what you should take. For instance if you are eating 2500 cals 40% protein that's 1000 cals devided by 4 cals per gram of protein which is 250 grams. I think you want to be at a minimum of 40% and that percentage depends on body type. I take 45-50 cuz I am an endo and want to keep my carbs down. 50/25/25 is pretty good for me. I to higher carbs on workout days and lower on burn days...
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Yeah DW I think you and I are in the same boat. I'm Endo/Meso mix if that makes sense, but regardless 50/25/25 works really well for my body type as well. I also shoot the carbs up for refeed, but I don't exactly follow martins progression. In the end were all different...so we do what works for us!!
 
TurningGreen said:
Yeah DW I think you and I are in the same boat. I'm Endo/Meso mix if that makes sense, but regardless 50/25/25 works really well for my body type as well. I also shoot the carbs up for refeed, but I don't exactly follow martins progression. In the end were all different...so we do what works for us!!
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Yah play with the numbers till you get it riight... then play with them some more in search of perfection.. goals have a say as well....
 
I'm straight up ENDO... the only reason I might be confused with ENDO/MESO is because I diet so hard and eat so clean!
 
I have purchased two bottles of the finna flex 1 andro supplement and am currently taking 2 pills a day and today is the the first day I started taking it.

I'm 18, weigh 164 and work out my full body seperately ofcourse over a 5-6 day workout period.. I have been lifting for a soild consistent two years now and can seriously put some weight up and have always wondered what these could do for me so I just thought I would try it but with a few questions of course.

I am here to ask you a couple of things...I was wondering if I could up my dosage to 3 maybe 4 after taking 2 pills a day for 3 days just so my body can adjust to it. Also what are the possible side effects that i can get from this product? Today I drank about a gallon of water and peed so many times in a short period of time i was suprised like alot. Also I feel a bit bloated at times but maybe its because of im not real used to the heavy intake of water I did today. However what are some of the main things I should focus on during this cycle because I know it is better if you take this over a long period of time and judging by how I plan on taking it 3 pills a day after the 3 days of 2 it would make me end up about 5 weeks in a half. I have read alot online syaing how it is better if you up the dosage so I figured i would ask your opinion.

Also about eating what should I focus on eating more? Protein and carbs ofcourse I know but anything else you should let me know that I can do to help the cycle out. I currently drink protein right after my workout usually isopure bottles and take my c4 preworkout about 20 minutes before a scoop in a half if that.

Any suggestions about what I have said?
Also I know I am only 18 and its not really reccomended but I still want to take it and work my ass off to finally see some results that would be nice and that could last.
 
VicksTopDog said:
I have purchased two bottles of the finna flex 1 andro supplement and am currently taking 2 pills a day and today is the the first day I started taking it.

I'm 18, weigh 164 and work out my full body seperately ofcourse over a 5-6 day workout period.. I have been lifting for a soild consistent two years now and can seriously put some weight up and have always wondered what these could do for me so I just thought I would try it but with a few questions of course.

I am here to ask you a couple of things...I was wondering if I could up my dosage to 3 maybe 4 after taking 2 pills a day for 3 days just so my body can adjust to it. Also what are the possible side effects that i can get from this product? Today I drank about a gallon of water and peed so many times in a short period of time i was suprised like alot. Also I feel a bit bloated at times but maybe its because of im not real used to the heavy intake of water I did today. However what are some of the main things I should focus on during this cycle because I know it is better if you take this over a long period of time and judging by how I plan on taking it 3 pills a day after the 3 days of 2 it would make me end up about 5 weeks in a half. I have read alot online syaing how it is better if you up the dosage so I figured i would ask your opinion.

Also about eating what should I focus on eating more? Protein and carbs ofcourse I know but anything else you should let me know that I can do to help the cycle out. I currently drink protein right after my workout usually isopure bottles and take my c4 preworkout about 20 minutes before a scoop in a half if that.

Any suggestions about what I have said?
Also I know I am only 18 and its not really reccomended but I still want to take it and work my ass off to finally see some results that would be nice and that could last.
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Stop taking this product imedieately ... you are much too young!! Sorry if that sounds harsh but these products are not for Teanagers they are to be used by only full mature males... this could lead to complications in one so young.
 
I feel totally fine on besides a little discomfort in the appendix area, what are the real odds of it really effecting me especially when im taking a pct immediately aftter? On the bottle it says it may not be suitable for ages under 18 years old and im 18? So if its really that big of a deal why dont they put it on the bottle then? Why not complain to them if your so concerned? I just don't see why it is such a bad idea if im following everything i could accordingly.

I plan on using it for the worthwhile so would you mind giving me some hints like what I asked above? It would be really appreciated!
 
VicksTopDog said:
I feel totally fine on besides a little discomfort in the appendix area, what are the real odds of it really effecting me especially when im taking a pct immediately aftter? On the bottle it says it may not be suitable for ages under 18 years old and im 18? So if its really that big of a deal why dont they put it on the bottle then? Why not complain to them if your so concerned? I just don't see why it is such a bad idea if im following everything i could accordingly.

I plan on using it for the worthwhile so would you mind giving me some hints like what I asked above? It would be really appreciated!
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Really it says 18 ? wow I looked to make sure but I didn't see it on the label...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Really it says 18 ? wow I looked to make sure but I didn't see it on the label...
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My apologies it does say 18 on the bottle, I know that .. yes 1-andro is a bit milder but different people get different potency from the product and it does convert to 1-test. I still advize against use, your still developing hormonally and you realy shouldn't really need it with the raging hormones of a young .. man lucky fugger :) However if you are going to continue against my advice I wiant to help you to keep as safe as possible...ok that being said...

Keep the dose low, it's your first time and you have virgin receptors, you should see results...

Yes keep your protein high as the product should enduce greater protein synthesis what I do is add about 30 to 50 grams to my daily intake...
 
Alright thanks man i just have always wanted to try something new because i have been lifting for like two years now and have always wonfered what a milder ph would do to me... I just hope i dont start to depend on it but thanks again i appreciate it
 
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