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Heart Help : Pharmecutical Grade Cholesterol, Triglyceride, and Blood Sugar support!

fadi said:
The market will grasp it if there are blood work results released other than the original study. I'm very interested in the product myself but I will need to plan blood work before I take it to see if it will make a difference.
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That is what I am doing :). Well, will be doing!
 
criticalbench said:
OO sick man.. is her doctor interested in this as well? My doctor could give a damn.. hes like keep taking your zocor, that is all.
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yup. her doc was close to putting her on statin's! i printed out some of the studies from the patent holder for her to bring in, doc was more than happy to have her try something like this before going on a statin
 
baldwanus said:
yup. her doc was close to putting her on statin's! i printed out some of the studies from the patent holder for her to bring in, doc was more than happy to have her try something like this before going on a statin
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Thats awesome man. I take my zocor more as a prophylactic measure in PCT for 8 weeks. My doctor was unwilling to risk it, but little does he know I am using both :D.

Mike
 
Vaughn please do not take what I am about to say in the wrong way. I am an iforce fan and think intimidate is a great product. However, I feel that this information can be misinforming to some people.

I currently work in pharmaceutical industry, and believe it or not statins including, lipitor, crestor, and vytorin are important medications that save the lives of many people. A lot of the side effects are exaggerated due to the rigorous guidelines of FDA reporting.

I believe in going the holistic route first, always have and always will. However someone with a total cholesterol of 250 with an LDL of 150+ should be on a statin. As well as people with any previous heart problems or surgeries such as MIs or ARPs.

Once again this is probably going to be an excellent product, just remember that statins do many great things.
 
My mom had her bloodwork yesterday *first bloodwork was 1 week prior to starting HH and second is after 1 month into HH* just waiting for her to get me copies so i can post em up
 
In for info. Why aren't there any reviews on NP? A few years back my levels came in at 261. So, I got off my getting a pot belly behind and started exercising and dropped soda, chips, etc from my diet. After a couple of months, levels were down to 186 total. I would love to add this product to my daily arsenal. My mom also has high levels and high blood pressure(drinks coffee like it's water). Both she and I are not overweight but, my wife is and her levels are great. Go figure!
 
av6258 said:
Vaughn please do not take what I am about to say in the wrong way. I am an iforce fan and think intimidate is a great product. However, I feel that this information can be misinforming to some people.

I currently work in pharmaceutical industry, and believe it or not statins including, lipitor, crestor, and vytorin are important medications that save the lives of many people. A lot of the side effects are exaggerated due to the rigorous guidelines of FDA reporting.

I believe in going the holistic route first, always have and always will. However someone with a total cholesterol of 250 with an LDL of 150+ should be on a statin. As well as people with any previous heart problems or surgeries such as MIs or ARPs.

Once again this is probably going to be an excellent product, just remember that statins do many great things.
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Strong first post.


#1 : I'm not suggesting anyone stop taking a statin and use this.
#2: statins are carcinogenic
#3: statins bring with them HUGE side effects
#4: the active in heart hhelp was shown to be more effective.


If you NEED a statin...use it.
 
VaughnTrue said:
it was a clinical trial performed on the active in Heart-Help, Bergamonte. There were 250 participants in each study.
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Vaughn do you happen to have a reprint of this trial that you could maybe email me? Im very interested in it only because of my past history selling statins and viewing those trials. Once again dude I was not knocking iforce whatsoever. I just got my Hemavol on Monday and I can honestly say it's given me the best pumps I've ever had. Thanks again man
 
baldwanus said:
My mom had her bloodwork yesterday *first bloodwork was 1 week prior to starting HH and second is after 1 month into HH* just waiting for her to get me copies so i can post em up
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Interested...
 
T-Bone said:
Still looking for blood work..........
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appt. with her doc to go over the results is monday, i'll be able to post up the copies then. *blood was drawn at the hospital blood drawing center, sent out to be tested, then information gets sent to her doc* my mom works 2 jobs, can be hard to fit in time to get an appt, hence why this is taking a little longer than expected

Mission1 said:
Don't you trust bro science?
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lmfao. yup, using a patented ingredient with human clinical trials is straight broscience.







im not on my main comp where i have the PDF's saved........but in the meantime anyone looking for the clinical studies can simply e-mail HP Invalid Link Removed and ask for it
 
av6258 said:
Vaughn please do not take what I am about to say in the wrong way. I am an iforce fan and think intimidate is a great product. However, I feel that this information can be misinforming to some people.

I currently work in pharmaceutical industry, and believe it or not statins including, lipitor, crestor, and vytorin are important medications that save the lives of many people. A lot of the side effects are exaggerated due to the rigorous guidelines of FDA reporting.

I believe in going the holistic route first, always have and always will. However someone with a total cholesterol of 250 with an LDL of 150+ should be on a statin. As well as people with any previous heart problems or surgeries such as MIs or ARPs.

Once again this is probably going to be an excellent product, just remember that statins do many great things.
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Statins do have there place and anyone being physician monitored with statins should not stop and switch to heart help without consulting there prescribing physician first. The numbers you stated.. nobody should be self medicating for.

Heart help does have its place.. a rather large place here in the bodybuilding and fitness community that many people can wreap the benefits of.

Mike
 
baldwanus said:
appt. with her doc to go over the results is monday, i'll be able to post up the copies then. *blood was drawn at the hospital blood drawing center, sent out to be tested, then information gets sent to her doc* my mom works 2 jobs, can be hard to fit in time to get an appt, hence why this is taking a little longer than expected

lmfao. yup, using a patented ingredient with human clinical trials is straight broscience.

im not on my main comp where i have the PDF's saved........but in the meantime anyone looking for the clinical studies can simply e-mail HP Invalid Link Removed and ask for it
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Even without a busy schedule.. getting a physician appt can be a pain! Looking forward to it! My levels will come soon.. I think 4 more weeks.
 
baldwanus said:
appt. with her doc to go over the results is monday, i'll be able to post up the copies then. *blood was drawn at the hospital blood drawing center, sent out to be tested, then information gets sent to her doc* my mom works 2 jobs, can be hard to fit in time to get an appt, hence why this is taking a little longer than expected

lmfao. yup, using a patented ingredient with human clinical trials is straight broscience.

im not on my main comp where i have the PDF's saved........but in the meantime anyone looking for the clinical studies can simply e-mail HP Invalid Link Removed and ask for it
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Keep in mind that the ingredient was out way before you brought it to market! There you go again.
 
Mission1 said:
Keep in mind that the ingredient was out way before you brought it to market! There you go again.
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it may have been out, but undiscovered by many; I am struggled to find reviews on bodybuilding forums in regards to this selective ingredient. Can you please provide me with links bro, I can't wait to see the awesome success everyone has been having for years here on the boards with this ingredient!!!

Mike
 
T-Bone said:
Still waiting to see before and after blood work....
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Still waiting for you to realize there were over 250 cases of before/after bloodwork in the CLINICAL STUDIES.


The ingredient is proven to work. Why would I spend money to do the EXACT same tests that has already been done?



Brb financing study on creatine monohydrate
 
VaughnTrue said:
Yet again, here is a link to view the results from the CLINICAL STUDY

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So it's a clinical study? Right.....(runs into closet avoiding face palm)
 
baldwanus said:
appt. with her doc to go over the results is monday, i'll be able to post up the copies then. *blood was drawn at the hospital blood drawing center, sent out to be tested, then information gets sent to her doc* my mom works 2 jobs, can be hard to fit in time to get an appt, hence why this is taking a little longer than expected
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Did this blood work report ever get posted?
 
running it currently in PCT will get pre and post labs up for everyone in about a month. I know it won't show directly heart help benefit since I'm not taking this solo, but it will be at least a reference.
 
tilldeath said:
running it currently in PCT will get pre and post labs up for everyone in about a month. I know it won't show directly heart help benefit since I'm not taking this solo, but it will be at least a reference.
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What else are you using?
 
tilldeath said:
running it currently in PCT will get pre and post labs up for everyone in about a month. I know it won't show directly heart help benefit since I'm not taking this solo, but it will be at least a reference.
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Should be interesting to see nevertheless.
 
tilldeath said:
Torem, 4g of fish oil ED, ai post cycle, about 2 weeks of cycle support, daa 3 g ed, and erase @ 2 caps ED.
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Bro.. the point of serms is to eliminate all else essentially. Torem fish oil and heart help are all you need. Save erase and daa for an extended natty bulk immediately following your pct so ideally your pct natty stack should run a min of 8 to 12 weeks. You will be much happier.

Mike
 
criticalbench said:
Bro.. the point of serms is to eliminate all else essentially. Torem fish oil and heart help are all you need. Save erase and daa for an extended natty bulk immediately following your pct so ideally your pct natty stack should run a min of 8 to 12 weeks. You will be much happier.

Mike
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I've read a lot of your stuff so your oppinion is highly reguarded. That beign said, I thought while there are many of benifits indirectly to using an SERM I didn't think they covered everything. The erase is coming in at week 3 of PCT for any estro rebound from coming of the torem. Also DAA is just to boost natural test production while returning to normal. I also had a bottle of Post cycle so figured I'd toss it in as well.
 
tilldeath said:
I've read a lot of your stuff so your oppinion is highly reguarded. That beign said, I thought while there are many of benifits indirectly to using an SERM I didn't think they covered everything. The erase is coming in at week 3 of PCT for any estro rebound from coming of the torem. Also DAA is just to boost natural test production while returning to normal. I also had a bottle of Post cycle so figured I'd toss it in as well.
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I've read and experimented with so much, and made so many mistakes in my day, I don't want others to do the same. I've ran just nolva, and then some super pct and saw no difference, confirmed with bloods. I wasted so much money in my day.

1. Your rebound with torem should be non-existant if you run it right. Always straight your serm 6-8 weeks, going down to EOD dosing towards the end.

2. Erase is a better natural bulker, rather than using to recover. Its far to expensive to run to recover, the only recover supps you should be using with your serm are very cheap, basic herbs and such.

3. Daa, again save for the later weeks of your pct.

4. Always always always turn your pcts into continued, natural bulk stacks coming off of pro-hormones. 4 weeks of strict serm use to recover, then 4-8 weeks of natural muscle builders like daa, erase, etc.

5. Additions to your serm
-Heart Help (your heart is much more important to recover then your nuts)
-Maca (Crazy good for libido purposes, dirt cheap)
-Lean Xtreme for cortisol rebound (I prefer abliterate as my fat rebound is specific to my abd)
-Nutrient Paritioner to get your body use to handling carbs naturally again

6. NEVER EVER EVER throw something in just because you have it, save your post cycle for your natty bulk or another time.

I'm glad you respect what I write, I only ever try to help, and if you choose, would love to help you more. I would love to see you experience the difference of a pct like most people suggest of 4 weeks of several supplements vs a drawn out pct like ive found so much success in. My best ever pcts have involved the combination of,

Clomid, maca, intimidate (previously daa before intimidate came out), Reversitol V.2, Testabolan V.2 over 12 weeks.

I use Kidney Health Supplements to recover and detox along with some liver detox and heart help to recover my body.

Mike
 
Just started taking Heart Help, should be a staple of mine :)
 
criticalbench said:
I've read and experimented with so much, and made so many mistakes in my day, I don't want others to do the same. I've ran just nolva, and then some super pct and saw no difference, confirmed with bloods. I wasted so much money in my day.

1. Your rebound with torem should be non-existant if you run it right. Always straight your serm 6-8 weeks, going down to EOD dosing towards the end.

2. Erase is a better natural bulker, rather than using to recover. Its far to expensive to run to recover, the only recover supps you should be using with your serm are very cheap, basic herbs and such.

3. Daa, again save for the later weeks of your pct.

4. Always always always turn your pcts into continued, natural bulk stacks coming off of pro-hormones. 4 weeks of strict serm use to recover, then 4-8 weeks of natural muscle builders like daa, erase, etc.

5. Additions to your serm
-Heart Help (your heart is much more important to recover then your nuts)
-Maca (Crazy good for libido purposes, dirt cheap)
-Lean Xtreme for cortisol rebound (I prefer abliterate as my fat rebound is specific to my abd)
-Nutrient Paritioner to get your body use to handling carbs naturally again

6. NEVER EVER EVER throw something in just because you have it, save your post cycle for your natty bulk or another time.

I'm glad you respect what I write, I only ever try to help, and if you choose, would love to help you more. I would love to see you experience the difference of a pct like most people suggest of 4 weeks of several supplements vs a drawn out pct like ive found so much success in. My best ever pcts have involved the combination of,

Clomid, maca, intimidate (previously daa before intimidate came out), Reversitol V.2, Testabolan V.2 over 12 weeks.

I use Kidney Health Supplements to recover and detox along with some liver detox and heart help to recover my body.

Mike
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solid argument, I'm sold. Any thoughts running the above protocol after a 12wk test only cycle? Pending blood work end of January I will be jumping to pinning.
 
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