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Testosterone Enanthate - considering using for first cycle ever

Roniboney said:
You know what have a good day sir.You clearly have no manners.We all told him what to do in a respectful way.

As the saying goes however there is always one
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Now im convinced youre either plain stupid or trolling.
Ill have to break it down for you now since youre getting on my nerves.

I was calling Gotta get big a moron, after he called me a troll for no real reason. Do I need to repeat myself AGAIN to get it through to you? ALL I did was put what the OP needs to do in straight up no, blunt, no BS terms. PLEASE DO TELL HOW THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL. In fact "gotta get big" was pretty blunt about it too and yet you pick my perfectly good post to say im disrespectful. Directly quoting here:
"Your diet must ne absolute sh*t to be that fat. You could lose the weight by eating right. Juice ain't magic, lrn2diet."
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So get the hell off my nuts, and maybe grow a pair yourself since you cant take me telling someone to get their sht done in a blunt way.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
hey handjob.....tone it down a notch....or eleven, for christ sakes.....
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How about everyone gets off my sht when I actually provide usual information, I was clearly not being disrespectful and in return I get called a troll and harassed by some idiot who seems to have not used AI while running a g of test and has estrogen levels higher than a woman on her period.
 
handcannon7 said:
How about everyone gets off my sht when I actually provide usual information, I was clearly not being disrespectful and in return I get called a troll and harassed by some idiot who seems to have not used AI while running a g of test and has estrogen levels higher than a woman on her period.
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well when there are a dozen or more people pissed off at you....and you're pissed off at the dozen people....USUALLY the one person is the problem and not the rest of the mob.....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
well when there are a dozen or more people pissed off at you....and you're pissed off at the dozen people....USUALLY the one person is the problem and not the rest of the mob.....
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Please aware me why people are pissed at me for answering peoples threads, as far as im concerned all you do is copy what manbeast says then have your own conversations in threads...just what ive observed so dont get mad.
 
handcannon7 said:
Please aware me why people are pissed at me for answering peoples threads, as far as im concerned all you do is copy what manbeast says then have your own conversations in threads...just what ive observed so dont get mad.
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copy what manbeast say's? I usually say the opposite, so again you are saying stupid things. either that or if he posts something I was gonna say, I don't bother even posting it, or vice versa. Also, we are usually here different times of the day so its kind of hard to "say the same thing"....and when we are here together I spend 90% of my time busting his balls. secondly, you post like a belligerent ahole cursing everybody out for the smallest things, like you are on some sort of aggro roids. add to that, what you do say? is usually either wrong or stupid. so basically you are a negative influence on the board all around. is that clear enough? or should I elaborate more?
 
It seems every thread there is constant bickering..... Why all the hate? Where have the children gone?


A man is lying on the street some punk has chopped off his head

And I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead aaoohhh

Turns out he's dead
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
copy what manbeast say's? I usually say the opposite, so again you are saying stupid things. either that or if he posts something I was gonna say, I don't bother even posting it, or vice versa. Also, we are usually here different times of the day so its kind of hard to "say the same thing"....and when we are here together I spend 90% of my time busting his balls. secondly, you post like a belligerent ahole cursing everybody out for the smallest things, like you are on some sort of aggro roids. add to that, what you do say? is usually either wrong or stupid. so basically you are a negative influence on the board all around. is that clear enough? or should I elaborate more?
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So because I say sht im an ahole, what are we 12? And I dont curse directly at anyone, ive never insulted anyone until ive been insulted, point me to a post where Ive cursed at someone or insulted anyone without being insulted first.
 
Show me where i've posted bro-science without saying it is anecdotal, or "from what i've heard/seen" etc. Just because I have a solid knowledge of compounds, and happen to have a conservative approach to compound use... Ever think that he's agreeing with me because I have good ideas?
 
I guess thats better then posting the same thing seconds apart.

ManBeast said:
Show me where i've posted bro-science without saying it is anecdotal, or "from what i've heard/seen" etc. Just because I have a solid knowledge of compounds, and happen to have a conservative approach to compound use... Ever think that he's agreeing with me because I have good ideas?
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LoL fellow zerg :D
 
ManBeast said:
Show me where i've posted bro-science without saying it is anecdotal, or "from what i've heard/seen" etc. Just because I have a solid knowledge of compounds, and happen to have a conservative approach to compound use... Ever think that he's agreeing with me because I have good ideas?
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I never said you posted broscience did I? Read again.
 
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no, but you did say that this forum is full of bro-science...

ManBeast
 
Gerbil said:
It seems every thread there is constant bickering..... Why all the hate? Where have the children gone?


A man is lying on the street some punk has chopped off his head

And I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead aaoohhh

Turns out he's dead
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put a muzzle on handjob7" and there will be 90% less bickering I assure you.....
 
he talks about PCT and liver protection, and some newer PH's and designers for the most part....I talk about EVERYTHING BUT THAT ..... you make no sense....as usual...
 
hey now, i also love me some test/tren/dbol goodness :D
 
the forum just "thanked me for deducting points from handjob7" :D, I guess that means I did a good thing? I'm gonna spread around some green rep and give him some more in an hour or so LMFAO
 
So you negged him once and brought him to zero.... Impressive.
 
ManBeast said:
hey now, i also love me some test/tren/dbol goodness :D
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"for the most part".....basically what he says makes no sense since we talk about different things 80% of the time.....and usually you say this compound or this dosage and I say another compound or a different dose....not like we post the same opinions very much.....
 
handcannon7 said:
So because I say sht im an ahole, what are we 12? And I dont curse directly at anyone, ive never insulted anyone until ive been insulted, point me to a post where Ive cursed at someone or insulted anyone without being insulted first.
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you actually insulted anyone who has every got results from using a PH... u said they were bull**** and people needed to get real gear.. that is kind of insulting.
 
csa2179 said:
you actually insulted anyone who has every got results from using a PH... u said they were bull**** and people needed to get real gear.. that is kind of insulting.
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Im saying all people use these days are PH's when they should be using real gear, Ive got sdrol coming this week, so I have nothing against some PH's but then there are some companies who make complete **** like boladrol. Either way most of you have completely taken things that Ive said wrong (example post I just quoted) the only posts ive been making are knowledgeable posts on suggesting dosing, explaining what certain things do and some how I get called a troll and a disrespectful because im blunt.
 
I'll admit you've had some very solid posts with good examples, but then you've had some where you look down on lots of people, I mean, your first post in this thread you proclaimed it "the best post in the thread" when you were just condensing and parroting the good info that had been posted after the first page...

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
I'll admit you've had some very solid posts with good examples, but then you've had some where you look down on lots of people, I mean, your first post in this thread you proclaimed it "the best post in the thread" when you were just condensing and parroting the good info that had been posted after the first page...

ManBeast
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I only read the first page of that thread, which was all relating to the physical sides of test/gear but some of the posts on the first page gave me a horrible first impression due to there being a few clueless posts on it...and I was feeling a little good from test so I maybe got a little boastful, but I dont directly insult anyone.
 
true, you didn't single anyone out, but everyone on 3-4 pages who helped steer him/set him right was lumped in with your comment, it is a bit insulting don't you think?

ManBeast
 
Eh, I actually took the time to search his posts :D The woman is busy gettin pissed at her work computer and i needed something to do to keep me outta her hair so I don't get punched in the nuts :D
 
alright guys, finally hit 50 posts!!!!
Just took these 2 today. 270 lbs, 5'9.
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and here was me 3 years ago at 220 lbs :'(
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FWIW.....When I was told to not work and not workout, and rest basically, for 6 months? I ate best I could, protein at least....but I ended up with a good sized gut from inactivity and not watching my diet well enough....I'm not a large guy at all so it wasn't huge, but still it was a lot of fat....and much of my muscle went to fat elsewhere since I did not do a PCT due to being in the ICU for about 5-6 days then into a hospital room for a week or so, then home....BUT after the 6 months at home inactive, when I started working out again? I used XXXmg of test enanthate in order to LOSE fat and build back a bit of muscle....I literally lost assloads of fat on the stuff (with AI)....my friends were like damn, that test worked....you lost a shytload of fat.....it really worked for me, for some reason test has that effect on me? but hey, not sure if it will work for someone else, just my experience.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
FWIW.....When I was told to not work and not workout, and rest basically, for 6 months? I ate best I could, protein at least....but I ended up with a good sized gut from inactivity and not watching my diet well enough....I'm not a large guy at all so it wasn't huge, but still it was a lot of fat....and much of my muscle went to fat elsewhere since I did not do a PCT due to being in the ICU for about 5-6 days then into a hospital room for a week or so, then home....BUT after the 6 months at home inactive, when I started working out again? I used XXXmg of test enanthate in order to LOSE fat and build back a bit of muscle....I literally lost assloads of fat on the stuff (with AI)....my friends were like damn, that test worked....you lost a shytload of fat.....it really worked for me, for some reason test has that effect on me? but hey, not sure if it will work for someone else, just my experience.
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What were you on the hospital for??

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vidapreta said:
What were you on the hospital for??

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aw shyt we won't go over this again LOL....hit my "view posts" and check it out...if you see some long ass posts? see if they are about this exact subject. cliffs notes was I had an enlarged heart and they overreacted......but I explained it 2-3 times this past week already.....my heart was still weak right after the 6 months, shouldn't have used anything....but it worked, i was scared out of my mind to do something so stupid right after a scare like that....but I just wanted to lose that fat and get some natural muscle memory back real quick....then I was clean the next 5-6 years till now.....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
FWIW.....When I was told to not work and not workout, and rest basically, for 6 months? I ate best I could, protein at least....but I ended up with a good sized gut from inactivity and not watching my diet well enough....I'm not a large guy at all so it wasn't huge, but still it was a lot of fat....and much of my muscle went to fat elsewhere since I did not do a PCT due to being in the ICU for about 5-6 days then into a hospital room for a week or so, then home....BUT after the 6 months at home inactive, when I started working out again? I used XXXmg of test enanthate in order to LOSE fat and build back a bit of muscle....I literally lost assloads of fat on the stuff (with AI)....my friends were like damn, that test worked....you lost a shytload of fat.....it really worked for me, for some reason test has that effect on me? but hey, not sure if it will work for someone else, just my experience.
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I know of a guy who uses it to cut too. Im just worried about my blood pressure at 270 lbs. cant imagine the stress with work and the gym and occasional drunk night or god forbid cigarettes
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
aw shyt we won't go over this again LOL....hit my "view posts" and check it out...if you see some long ass posts? see if they are about this exact subject. cliffs notes was I had an enlarged heart and they overreacted......but I explained it 2-3 times this past week already.....my heart was still weak right after the 6 months, shouldn't have used anything....but it worked, i was scared out of my mind to do something so stupid right after a scare like that....but I just wanted to lose that fat and get some natural muscle memory back real quick....then I was clean the next 5-6 years till now.....
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I only ask because I care..LOL

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ohaithere said:
I know of a guy who uses it to cut too. Im just worried about my blood pressure at 270 lbs. cant imagine the stress with work and the gym and occasional drunk night or god forbid cigarettes
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yeah dude.....you got LOTS more fat than I did to lose....get down naturally to something respectable, THEN when your more in a healthy state you can think about Test.....gotta be healthy to start as a base, that is the most important part....and monitor yourself closely even then.....drop some weight naturally for sure first though.....
 
vidapreta said:
I only ask because I care..LOL

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people don't want to hear the same stories over and over again...and this is the 3rd or 4th time this past two weeks...easier to read it in my posts from the past few weeks....don't want to piss everybody off LOL.....its in the "heart problem" thread actually, one of my posts related to that....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
yeah dude.....you got LOTS more fat than I did to lose....get down naturally to something respectable, THEN when your more in a healthy state you can think about Test.....gotta be healthy to start as a base, that is the most important part....and monitor yourself closely even then.....drop some weight naturally for sure first though.....
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I just don't want you thinking "hey this guy did it....so should I".....but the thing is, I didn't have THAT much fat to lose, just that i got a bit of a big belly and my muscle atrophied and fat replaced some of it....test plus muscle memory plus lighter weights was just my solution. If I had a lot of weight to lose? I'd do the bulk of it naturally with diet and exercise....things like test should be for when you're in some sort of reasonable range for where you want to be.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I just don't want you thinking "hey this guy did it....so should I".....but the thing is, I didn't have THAT much fat to lose, just that i got a bit of a big belly and my muscle atrophied and fat replaced some of it....test plus muscle memory plus lighter weights was just my solution. If I had a lot of weight to lose? I'd do the bulk of it naturally with diet and exercise....things like test should be for when you're in some sort of reasonable range for where you want to be.
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I hear you man. I understand. Just mad at myself for letting myself get this fat. and I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about it.
 
ohaithere said:
I hear you man. I understand. Just mad at myself for letting myself get this fat. and I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about it.
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hahahaha, that was funny.......just get your diet straight and you'll be on your way, you know how you looked before....so you just gotta do what you gotta do to get back to that. Like i said, those 2,500 or 2,600 you were talking about would be great for me....I'd get by on that every day no problem...plenty of cals to eat. when you start getting into the 1,800 bullshyt? now THATS a bitch LOL....
 
handcannon7 said:
Now im convinced youre either plain stupid or trolling.
Ill have to break it down for you now since youre getting on my nerves.

I was calling Gotta get big a moron, after he called me a troll for no real reason. Do I need to repeat myself AGAIN to get it through to you? ALL I did was put what the OP needs to do in straight up no, blunt, no BS terms. PLEASE DO TELL HOW THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL. In fact "gotta get big" was pretty blunt about it too and yet you pick my perfectly good post to say im disrespectful. Directly quoting here:


So get the hell off my nuts, and maybe grow a pair yourself since you cant take me telling someone to get their sht done in a blunt way.
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You quoted something I never said but I really need no response to this.

You will always be the antagoniser in this thread.

If you can't see how its disrespectful then its like an atheist arguing with a creationist...the argument is going nowhere.
 
handcannon7 said:
Now im convinced youre either plain stupid or trolling.
Ill have to break it down for you now since youre getting on my nerves.

I was calling Gotta get big a moron, after he called me a troll for no real reason. Do I need to repeat myself AGAIN to get it through to you? ALL I did was put what the OP needs to do in straight up no, blunt, no BS terms. PLEASE DO TELL HOW THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL. In fact "gotta get big" was pretty blunt about it too and yet you pick my perfectly good post to say im disrespectful. Directly quoting here:

So get the hell off my nuts, and maybe grow a pair yourself since you cant take me telling someone to get their sht done in a blunt way.
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You're a complete idiot and spew rubbish onto this board proclaiming it as the end all truth to help op with unwarranted merit as if you are a gear god who graced this board. Go back to b you troll.
 
gotta get big said:
You're a complete idiot and spew rubbish onto this board proclaiming it as the end all truth to help op with unwarranted merit as if you are a gear god who graced this board. Go back to b you troll.
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Quite frankly I don't really care what you think of me, so save your breath.
 
I think everyone here needs to stop responding to and talking about each other, and try to help the original poster. so far the last few pages have been 1 post about that, and the rest pissing and moaning back and forth.

quick recap...
  • Bigger than normal health risks for running anabolics (primarily blood pressure + cholesterol) when starting off obese
  • Limited positive results for using anabolics without having diet in place
  • if the original poster is just getting seriously back to lifting/exercising and controlling diet again, its worth waiting 6 months to get all of that in line before anabolics
  • Nobody held a vote and elected any of us the Steriod Police
  • If you don't want to hear "you are too fat", you should probably work out at planet fitness and go to the livestrong or maybe sparkpeople forums.
  • We've all got a right to free speech and whether its insulting or not is up to the person you direct the comments to, not other people who are listening.
 
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