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Force factor cycle

Roc the Joc

Roc the Joc

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I'm thinking about taking axis ht and in between my cycle taking force factor. I'm looking to go from 165 to about 180-185 in 7 months. I have trouble gaining weight since my body type mainly only gets ripped than bulk.
I weight 165 and my strength is pretty high for my size.
I'm really look for a good combo to get the size I need.
 
i am not the guy behind the counter of the nutrition store

i dont have a clue what these products are
 
Patrick Arnold said:
i am not the guy behind the counter of the nutrition store

i dont have a clue what these products are
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Not familiar with Axis but Force Factor is the biggest scam going, its basically three forms of arginine and some other ingredients poofed in. The real kicker is that they want $50 bucks plus for a bottle. There is not much to back arginine as a muscle builder.....if you are that willing to part with your money I have a couple of bridges I can sell you. One's in Brooklyn and I have beaut in San Francisco. You'd be better off steering clear of this and buying arginine in bulk if you must but its not gonna' do much for your muscles IMO

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[TD="class: seq_span label_size"]120 Capsules[/TD]
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[TD="class: seq_span label_ing"]Advanced 3X Nitric Oxide Booster[/TD]
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[TD="class: seq_span label_ing"]Advanced Nutrient Delivery System[/TD]
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I've always been all natural besides a few protein and whey protein shakes and I can't seem to put the pounds that I'm trying to gain. What is a good test booster or even just a good pre and post workout that can get me the gains I need in 7 months? And thanks for the tip on force factor!
 
Roc the Joc said:
I've always been all natural besides a few protein and whey protein shakes and I can't seem to put the pounds that I'm trying to gain. What is a good test booster or even just a good pre and post workout that can get me the gains I need in 7 months? And thanks for the tip on force factor!
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Testforce2 is a good choice for a test booster. There is real science behind it. As far as putting on the pounds what is your diet like? Food is incredibly anabolic. You cannot build a house without bricks, if you are looking to gain size and mass you will have to consume enough calories over maintenance to achieve the size gains you desire.
 
truthornothin said:
Testforce2 is a good choice for a test booster. There is real science behind it. As far as putting on the pounds what is your diet like? Food is incredibly anabolic. You cannot build a house without bricks, if you are looking to gain size and mass you will have to consume enough calories over maintenance to achieve the size gains you desire.
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Second this.
 
Patrick Arnold said:
only if its mostly protein though


cupcakes and cornbread does not a buff body make
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Hey now maybe not the cupcakes but we poor southerners are mostly made of cornbread,, and lots and lots of pork. Preferably bbq'd Lexington NC Stye, Its a shame that stuff doesn't travel well or I'd I'd bring a couple pounds to the Arnold. All kidding aside if you are looking for mass gains you are going to have to take in some carbs. I try to stack mine in the morning and post workout. That seem to give, for me at least, the most gains in muscle mass and the least gain around the middle
 
truthornothin said:
Hey now maybe not the cupcakes but we poor southerners are mostly made of cornbread,, and lots and lots of pork. Preferably bbq'd Lexington NC Stye, Its a shame that stuff doesn't travel well or I'd I'd bring a couple pounds to the Arnold. All kidding aside if you are looking for mass gains you are going to have to take in some carbs. I try to stack mine in the morning and post workout. That seem to give, for me at least, the most gains in muscle mass and the least gain around the middle
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pulled pork ftw
 
Patrick Arnold said:
pulled pork ftw
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Is there any other kind??? I am 20 minutes from Lexington NC, The undisputed Home Base of the worlds best pulled pork bbq, If I froze it it would still be frozen solid by the time I got there what with an unpressurized cargo bay getting down to sub zero and all. I think I'd have room next to the moonshine. Speak now or forever hold your peace. Be nice and I'll even grab some bbq slaw, there is nothing like it elsewhere in the world....make you happy you brought on a Tarheel as a rep :)
 
truthornothin said:
Is there any other kind??? I am 20 minutes from Lexington NC, The undisputed Home Base of the worlds best pulled pork bbq, If I froze it it would still be frozen solid by the time I got there what with an unpressurized cargo bay getting down to sub zero and all. I think I'd have room next to the moonshine. Speak now or forever hold your peace. Be nice and I'll even grab some bbq slaw, there is nothing like it elsewhere in the world....make you happy you brought on a Tarheel as a rep :)
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i dunno how we would handle heating up pulled pork in the booth
 
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