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AndroHard v3 Works.

unless your a opiate abuser, this isnt right, i ran SD 3 weeks at 20mg, bridged into tren ph for 4-5 weeks. My AST: 50, ALT: 90 if memory serves. and even i had a day or two on cycle drinking and or taking opiates, so nothing is adding up here...

id retest just to make sure it doesnt pop up the same, otherwise ER
 
Just received an email from the company that tested. They were doing a weekly review of the bloods they ran and contacted me saying the AST and ALT numbers were not correct. They apologized because the number in the computer didn't match the print out - saying they would have, indeed contacted me if those were my numbers.

AST = 55
ALT = 69

Man, I been sweating this. I have been using opiates to ease the pain, but not ABUSING them. This just didn't add up at all. Those numbers still aren't very good, but I do have a more normal sleep schedule being off the SD. I am not sure I'll touch the stuff again... I am going to have the test rerun after I get off the AH and go natty for a bit... This is a bit scary and definitely a wake up call. BE CAREFUL YALL.
 
Yeah... damn, they must have had a lot of **** mixed up. Overall, that tells me those numbers aren't too bad at all. 10mg of SD still tanked LH and LSH which is bunk... I am still in need of the TOCO 8 for the TRS.

Know idea how much this is a relief. AH isn't harsh AT ALL, also, is what this tells us. Plus, I have maintained after dropping SD. I will get pics at the end of the cycle. I have lost a little bit of the water bloat of SD and the water weight and am trimmer and more cut on the AH. It has me strong as an OX though. I am interested to see how the TRSv2 treats me + torem. Is there anything else I can run in PCT to boost hte affects of HPTA restart and keeping gains? I'm up or anything... No more sarms. I'm through with sarms.
 
TRS and Tor will be plenty. There are some bloods on the homesite from some one using this and his numbers were great. I'll try to dig them up.
 
Gracias amigo. I am missing one piece of the TRS - I have the sustain alpha, protomax, TCF-1 - missing the other ingredient. TOCO 8? I was told it would ship out pretty soon. LMK. Thanks bro.
 
Sklander said:
Gracias amigo. I am missing one piece of the TRS - I have the sustain alpha, protomax, TCF-1 - missing the other ingredient. TOCO 8? I was told it would ship out pretty soon. LMK. Thanks bro.
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Sh!t -- we now include protomax in our PCT stack to retains all gains!! lol

Did you mean Endoamp MAX???

-Matt
 
That lipid panel looks like mine when I was on 10mg of SD, although my liver function was normal. My blood glucose was also f-cked up, which probably explained why I was thristy every minute of the day.
 
Yeah, those numbers scared the hell out of me too. I was so confused because with numbers like that I literally should be writhing on the ground in pain bc of my liver is basically self rejecting itself... things just didn't add up.

No SD for me for awhile.

UPDATE::: I'm holding steady at 186lbs. I haven't been into the gym in the month of January - weighted pullups and pushups, ladies and gents. I can't stand the new years resolution bull****, and my schedule doesn't allow for 3am workouts at the moment. I got a new girl, and she loves to get down, so that core work is great.
 
Sklander said:
Yeah, those numbers scared the hell out of me too. I was so confused because with numbers like that I literally should be writhing on the ground in pain bc of my liver is basically self rejecting itself... things just didn't add up.

No SD for me for awhile.

UPDATE::: I'm holding steady at 186lbs. I haven't been into the gym in the month of January - weighted pullups and pushups, ladies and gents. I can't stand the new years resolution bull****, and my schedule doesn't allow for 3am workouts at the moment. I got a new girl, and she loves to get down, so that core work is great.
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Not bad to be holding weight and out of the gym...
 
Im glad you appear to have an explanation for your elevated liver values but they are still TEN TIMES normal.
That said, the fact your bilirubin is normal is a good sign.

I'd still re-test soon just to put me at ease. If you ever want a more conclusive answer for AS-induced toxicity, request a GGT in addition to the standard liver panels

As previously recommended, no training 2-3 days prior to the test and no Tylenol so as to rule out the the potential for false positives
 
Whacked said:
Im glad you appear to have an explanation for your elevated liver values but they are still TEN TIMES normal.
That said, the fact your bilirubin is normal is a good sign.

I'd still re-test soon just to put me at ease. If you ever want a more conclusive answer for AS-induced toxicity, request a GGT in addition to the standard liver panels

As previously recommended, no training 2-3 days prior to the test and no Tylenol so as to rule out the the potential for false positives
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Good advice here.
 
Okay, finally off these stupid opiates. Idk what the hell was going on with me, but its fixed now. The opiates/tylenol definitely were skewing the numbers, as I was told by my doctor. I am going to have bloods done again when the TRSv2 and torem PCT has finished. I have definitely lost weight as I have been sick and bed ridden for a few weeks. I am much better now. I will give everyone a report as to how my first gym session goes in about 2hrs. I am really looking forward to seeing what I can still throw around, gonna start slow though.

My current PCT protocol has been:

I tapered off letro to 0.5mgEOD for a week or so, I overlapped 3caps erase / day with this and am still taking hte erase. zero gyno symptoms atm.
SERM: torem day1 120, day2-4 100mg, day 5-10 60mg, day 11-now 30mg
PP testosterone recovery stack w toco 8 taking as directed
lots of DAA
lots of food

When (should?) I run any formastanzol? 2wks post pct?
 
Sklander said:
Okay, finally off these stupid opiates. Idk what the hell was going on with me, but its fixed now. The opiates/tylenol definitely were skewing the numbers, as I was told by my doctor. I am going to have bloods done again when the TRSv2 and torem PCT has finished. I have definitely lost weight as I have been sick and bed ridden for a few weeks. I am much better now. I will give everyone a report as to how my first gym session goes in about 2hrs. I am really looking forward to seeing what I can still throw around, gonna start slow though.

My current PCT protocol has been:

I tapered off letro to 0.5mgEOD for a week or so, I overlapped 3caps erase / day with this and am still taking hte erase. zero gyno symptoms atm.
SERM: torem day1 120, day2-4 100mg, day 5-10 60mg, day 11-now 30mg
PP testosterone recovery stack w toco 8 taking as directed
lots of DAA
lots of food

When (should?) I run any formastanzol? 2wks post pct?
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Thats a tough question because that is a steroidal suicide inhibitor that can convert into 4-hydroxy-testosterone. Which could hinder or at least NOT boost test levels.

It could work just great and not interfere with recovery, but you have a chance that it could too..

-Matt
 
X2. I'm still a fan of ramping up an AI while ramping down a SERM. Or using an OTC PCT like the TRS and then ramping up an AI during.

HereToStudy said:
Can you get Aromasin (Exemestane)? If you are going to use an AI in PCT, that should be the go to. I am against any Formestane product in PCT.
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BigBlackGuy said:
X2. I'm still a fan of ramping up an AI while ramping down a SERM. Or using an OTC PCT like the TRS and then ramping up an AI during.
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I am a little more than two weeks into the TRS... I have been taking 3 caps a day or erase to come off the long letro taper I was on... Are you saying I need to ramp UP my dose of erase (AI)? I could get aromosin... but not in time for all of this.
 
No I would start to taper, everything...I still don't understand the AI purpose and especially ramping up the AI at the end of PCT? Maybe BBG can explain...
 
ryansm said:
No I would start to taper, everything...I still don't understand the AI purpose and especially ramping up the AI at the end of PCT? Maybe BBG can explain...
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I'd assume it is due to high estrogen levels being suppressive (he has spoken on this before). I am going to be doing TRS/SERM/aromasin this cycle, but I won't be ramping up, just a very low/moderate dose.
 
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