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Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

chedapalooza said:
I really don't have the budget for more than 2 bottles... I also respond easily and am very prone to sides when taking a ph... So I personally feel 2 a day would be enough, at least to start.. Especially coupled with daa and pct black on cycle.. And pro xan lol.

Would u mind making up a quick layout for the cycle and post? I'm having a hard time visualizing.. Thank you!
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Weeks 1-6
So 2 ed of EPI-V am
1 PCT black evening

Weeks 7-8 add 4 ed of Pure Test

PCT with either 2-3 PCT Black or the Erase Pro
4-6 Pure Test ed
PCT lasts 4 weeks...

Pretty straight forward, you can add anything you want for staples fish oil etc.. which is good to take with your Epi-v dosages...
 
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DreamWeaver said:
Weeks 1-6
So 2 ed of EPI-V am
1 PCT black evening

Weeks 7-8 add 4 ed of Pure Test

PCT with either 2-3 PCT Black or the Erase Pro
4-6 Pure Test ed
PCT lasts 4 weeks...

Pretty straight forward, you can add anything you want for staples fish oil etc.. which is good to take with your Epi-v dosages...
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Thanks very much. So I wouldn't split up the dose to 1 am/ 1 afternoon of epi v? Just take upon rising?

Lastly- after my 4 weeks of pct- (say I use 3 pct black for 4 weeks) could I immediately go on erase pro+anabeta for another 4 weeks? THEN take a month off from hormonal supps?

This month off would consist of ebol+ursobolic (has worked well for me following cycles of erase)

Then I would want to go on the 550xd! For which I would need more assistance setting that cycle up ;)
 
chedapalooza said:
Thanks very much. So I wouldn't split up the dose to 1 am/ 1 afternoon of epi v? Just take upon rising?

Lastly- after my 4 weeks of pct- (say I use 3 pct black for 4 weeks) could I immediately go on erase pro+anabeta for another 4 weeks? THEN take a month off from hormonal supps?

This month off would consist of ebol+ursobolic (has worked well for me following cycles of erase)

Then I would want to go on the 550xd! For which I would need more assistance setting that cycle up ;)
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Noo... you do want to split your EPI-V dose! 1/2 of your daily dose in the morning and 2nd half of your daily dose in the early afternoon, always 8hrs before intended bed time because of the stimulants, we do not want it to interfere with your sleep!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Noo... you do want to split your EPI-V dose! 1/2 of your daily dose in the morning and 2nd half of your daily dose in the early afternoon, always 8hrs before intended bed time because of the stimulants, we do not want it to interfere with your sleep!
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Ahh u already saw it haha. Ok.. That's what I was thinking. Sy I wake up at noon or 1 occasionally ... Should I take 1 upon rising and then one at like 5-6pm?
 
chedapalooza said:
Ahh u already saw it haha. Ok.. That's what I was thinking. Sy I wake up at noon or 1 occasionally ... Should I take 1 upon rising and then one at like 5-6pm?
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If you go to bed fairly late, I went 5-6 am then 2pm as I bed down fairly early and get up early....Just remember .. It's best to be running EPI-V right up to the end of your cut or your peak as I like to say.
 
chedapalooza said:
Ahh u already saw it haha. Ok.. That's what I was thinking. Sy I wake up at noon or 1 occasionally ... Should I take 1 upon rising and then one at like 5-6pm?
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I would always take your first dose as soon as you wake up and then wait as long as possible between doses, but allowing yourself at least 8hrs before your intended bedtime as to not mess with your sleep. Some people are more sensitive than others, I was able to take my 2nd dose at 4:00pm and still go to sleep by 10:00pm.
 
DreamWeaver said:
If you go to bed fairly late, I went 5-6 am then 2pm as I bed down fairly early and get up early....Just remember .. It's best to be running EPI-V right up to the end of your cut or your peak as I like to say.
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LoL, beat me too it, LoL, he fast!!!
 
DreamWeaver said:
I am on fire ... so great to be with you guys, you know I wanted this for a while.
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You more than deserve it my friend and literally, the pleasure is all ours!!!
 
Hey guys,
I am planning on buying 1 bottle of Finaflex 1-andro, 2 PCT revolution and 1 Pure Test for my first cycle. I don't want to go hardcore for my first pro-hormone trial and want to play it safe.

Week 1 : one 1-andro with breakfast, and 1 PCT after 1 hour. one 1-andro with dinner or lunch, and 1 PCT after 1 hour.
Week 2 : same
Week 3 : same
Week 4 : same

PCT:

Week 5: 2 pure test, 1 pct in the AM and 2 pure test, 1 pct in the PM. possibly some liver-support supplement as well.
Week 6: same
Week 7: same
Week 8: same

I am trying to gain some weight, I work out monday (back&bicep), tuesday (legs), wednesday (chest&tricep), thursday (shoulders) and full body (compounds) saturday. Can I keep taking muscle milk, creatine, bcaas while on cycle? I will not take my Jack3d while on cycle, probably while on PCT. what do you guys think? Any advices will be greatly appreciate it, thanks!
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Hey guys,
I am planning on buying 1 bottle of Finaflex 1-andro, 2 PCT revolution and 1 Pure Test for my first cycle. I don't want to go hardcore for my first pro-hormone trial and want to play it safe.

Week 1 : one 1-andro with breakfast, and 1 PCT after 1 hour. one 1-andro with dinner or lunch, and 1 PCT after 1 hour.
Week 2 : same
Week 3 : same
Week 4 : same

PCT:

Week 5: 2 pure test, 1 pct in the AM and 2 pure test, 1 pct in the PM. possibly some liver-support supplement as well.
Week 6: same
Week 7: same
Week 8: same

I am trying to gain some weight, I work out monday (back&bicep), tuesday (legs), wednesday (chest&tricep), thursday (shoulders) and full body (compounds) saturday. Can I keep taking muscle milk, creatine, bcaas while on cycle? I will not take my Jack3d while on cycle, probably while on PCT. what do you guys think? Any advices will be greatly appreciate it, thanks!
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I would go with 1 PCT black during cycle in the evening instead for 2 you are on a very manageable dose of 1-andro so you should be ok with 2 PCT black in PCT. I don't think you will feel any lethargy during cycle but if you do throw in some Pure Test during cycle.
 
OH and Harold ... big thumbs up about being safe and conservative on your first cycle... we want you guys to stay safe :) I really care about my iron buddies and am proud to work with a guy like Al who puts safety first. Be safe or I'll kick some azz lol
 
DreamWeaver said:
I would go with 1 PCT black during cycle in the evening instead for 2 you are on a very manageable dose of 1-andro so you should be ok with 2 PCT black in PCT. I don't think you will feel any lethargy during cycle but if you do throw in some Pure Test during cycle.
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Agreed... 1 PCT Cap/day should suffice unless you see signs or symptoms that you need more, but at that conservative of a 1-ANDRO dose, I think 1 cap/day of PCT Black is plenty! One other thing, take your PCT Black cap at night with or after dinner, it is most effective in the evening because at night when at rest is when your body produces testosterone (which it has a natural booster) as well as produces estrogen (which it has a blocker) and as far as the other stuff in it that is more of a support (liver, kidney, prostate, & cardiovascular shield) the time of day is irrelevant!
 
What are typical results that y'all are seeing with this product in terms of lean mass gain? Can decide between Epi-v or 1-andro, I love bulking but at ~18%bf it makes sense for me to try and cut down some
 
BigRigg said:
What are typical results that y'all are seeing with this product in terms of lean mass gain? Can decide between Epi-v or 1-andro, I love bulking but at ~18%bf it makes sense for me to try and cut down some
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That depends on two things... time & money! If you are only trying to get like 5%+ leaner by mid-May, then you have plenty of time, and if you don't mind spending a little extra money, then I advise you do a bridge cycle using either 1-ANDRO or 550-XD Black... bridging over to the EPI-V for the last 4-6wks to really shred it down! Also, what is your cycle experience thus far??? With my 12wk cycle I was taking 4-6 caps/day of 1-ANDRO for 6 wks then shifted directly over to 4-6caps/day of EPI-V for 6wks and my results were nothing short of incredible!
 
ScottyDoc said:
That depends on two things... time & money! If you are only trying to get like 5%+ leaner by mid-May, then you have plenty of time, and if you don't mind spending a little extra money, then I advise you do a bridge cycle using either 1-ANDRO or 550-XD Black... bridging over to the EPI-V for the last 4-6wks to really shred it down! Also, what is your cycle experience thus far??? With my 12wk cycle I was taking 4-6 caps/day of 1-ANDRO for 6 wks then shifted directly over to 4-6caps/day of EPI-V for 6wks and my results were nothing short of incredible!
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This would be my first cycle. I'm 5'8" about 190, bf was a guess, when flexed I can see my 6 pack but when unflexed it looks like a gut. Solid training experience as well, never really cut before though
 
BigRigg said:
This would be my first cycle. I'm 5'8" about 190, bf was a guess, when flexed I can see my 6 pack but when unflexed it looks like a gut. Solid training experience as well, never really cut before though
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Then lets just go with a good first cycle, final and most important question... What is more important to you right now... gaining about 10Lbs and staying the same BF% or adding 3-7Lbs (depending on your metabolism) while dropping about 2-5% body fat? The answer to that question is the answer to which product you will take, personally I would go with adding the 3-7Lbs while dropping 2-5% BF, Summer is coming bro and ripped muscle looks bigger and better than flabby muscle no matter how big it is, just my opinion!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Then lets just go with a good first cycle, final and most important question... What is more important to you right now... gaining about 10Lbs and staying the same BF% or adding 3-7Lbs (depending on your metabolism) while dropping about 2-5% body fat? The answer to that question is the answer to which product you will take, personally I would go with adding the 3-7Lbs while dropping 2-5% BF, Summer is coming bro and ripped muscle looks bigger and better than flabby muscle no matter how big it is, just my opinion!
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Good man that's what I was going to say
 
BigRigg said:
Good man that's what I was going to say
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Well from there my normal cycle advice (EPI-V or 1-ANDRO) as usual is 4 caps a day (2 caps in the early morning and 2 more caps in mid-afternoon - at least 8hrs before bed because EPI-V has stimulants in it that may keep you awake if too close to sleep time) for 6 weeks. I also suggest taking 1 cap of PCT REVOLUTION Black every night during and for 30 days following your cycle. Also, starting 5 days before your cycle ends, I suggest adding 6 caps per night of PURE TEST and run that for 40 consecutive days. That my friend is the absolute most perfect way to take a cycle of either of our products, the PCT Blackduring your cycle will keep your estrogen levels from every rising and keep your liver and kidney enzymes normalized and protect your prostate and cardiovascular system as well, and continue to do so for the 30 days following your cycle. The PURE TEST will guarantee natural testosterone levels not only return to normal but elevate naturally, guaranteeing you maintain those hard earned muscle gains and lbs of fat lost, none of this is worth anything if you don't maintain what you achieve, agreed?
 
ScottyDoc said:
Well from there my normal cycle advice (EPI-V or 1-ANDRO) as usual is 4 caps a day (2 caps in the early morning and 2 more caps in mid-afternoon - at least 8hrs before bed because EPI-V has stimulants in it that may keep you awake if too close to sleep time) for 6 weeks. I also suggest taking 1 cap of PCT REVOLUTION Black every night during and for 30 days following your cycle. Also, starting 5 days before your cycle ends, I suggest adding 6 caps per night of PURE TEST and run that for 40 consecutive days. That my friend is the absolute most perfect way to take a cycle of either of our products, the PCT Blackduring your cycle will keep your estrogen levels from every rising and keep your liver and kidney enzymes normalized and protect your prostate and cardiovascular system as well, and continue to do so for the 30 days following your cycle. The PURE TEST will guarantee natural testosterone levels not only return to normal but elevate naturally, guaranteeing you maintain those hard earned muscle gains and lbs of fat lost, none of this is worth anything if you don't maintain what you achieve, agreed?
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Indeed good sir, excellent advise as always! I'm pumped to start this up, if I get the funds in time I will run this and log it together with the G8 log a promised :) should be good times
 
ScottyDoc said:
Agreed... 1 PCT Cap/day should suffice unless you see signs or symptoms that you need more, but at that conservative of a 1-ANDRO dose, I think 1 cap/day of PCT Black is plenty! One other thing, take your PCT Black cap at night with or after dinner, it is most effective in the evening because at night when at rest is when your body produces testosterone (which it has a natural booster) as well as produces estrogen (which it has a blocker) and as far as the other stuff in it that is more of a support (liver, kidney, prostate, & cardiovascular shield) the time of day is irrelevant!
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Thank you ScottyDoc, I will start my cycle soon. After done with my first cycle, I will wait some months off then I might look forward to go for a higher dose or even try your new 550 XD but I will be using a SERM if I go that route.

Can I keep taking a protein shake while on cycle? creatine?

When are you guys releasing the new Pre-workout formula? I am looking forward to try it
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Thank you ScottyDoc, I will start my cycle soon. After done with my first cycle, I will wait some months off then I might look forward to go for a higher dose or even try your new 550 XD but I will be using a SERM if I go that route.

Can I keep taking a protein shake while on cycle? creatine?

When are you guys releasing the new Pre-workout formula? I am looking forward to try it
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Your fine with protein and creatine while on cycle man, although I will say some prefer to halt creatine until pct but you will be good to go
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Thank you ScottyDoc, I will start my cycle soon. After done with my first cycle, I will wait some months off then I might look forward to go for a higher dose or even try your new 550 XD but I will be using a SERM if I go that route.

Can I keep taking a protein shake while on cycle? creatine?

When are you guys releasing the new Pre-workout formula? I am looking forward to try it
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Our new 550-XD will not require a SERM, just to start our PCT REVOLUTION Black 5 days before your cycle ends at 2 caps/day for the full bottle = 30 consecutive days and you are fine!

You can absolutely continue to take protein shakes and creatine while on a cycle of any of our products or any other prohormone for that matter!

Our new pre-workout (IGNITE-2) will be released around the time of the Arnold Expo (1st weekend of March)
 
ScottyDoc said:
That depends on two things... time & money! If you are only trying to get like 5%+ leaner by mid-May, then you have plenty of time, and if you don't mind spending a little extra money, then I advise you do a bridge cycle using either 1-ANDRO or 550-XD Black... bridging over to the EPI-V for the last 4-6wks to really shred it down! Also, what is your cycle experience thus far??? With my 12wk cycle I was taking 4-6 caps/day of 1-ANDRO for 6 wks then shifted directly over to 4-6caps/day of EPI-V for 6wks and my results were nothing short of incredible!
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Yah I can vouch for that...
 
ScottyDoc said:
Well from there my normal cycle advice (EPI-V or 1-ANDRO) as usual is 4 caps a day (2 caps in the early morning and 2 more caps in mid-afternoon - at least 8hrs before bed because EPI-V has stimulants in it that may keep you awake if too close to sleep time) for 6 weeks. I also suggest taking 1 cap of PCT REVOLUTION Black every night during and for 30 days following your cycle. Also, starting 5 days before your cycle ends, I suggest adding 6 caps per night of PURE TEST and run that for 40 consecutive days. That my friend is the absolute most perfect way to take a cycle of either of our products, the PCT Blackduring your cycle will keep your estrogen levels from every rising and keep your liver and kidney enzymes normalized and protect your prostate and cardiovascular system as well, and continue to do so for the 30 days following your cycle. The PURE TEST will guarantee natural testosterone levels not only return to normal but elevate naturally, guaranteeing you maintain those hard earned muscle gains and lbs of fat lost, none of this is worth anything if you don't maintain what you achieve, agreed?
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Yah I would go for 6 weeks of EPI-V in his situation...
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Thank you ScottyDoc, I will start my cycle soon. After done with my first cycle, I will wait some months off then I might look forward to go for a higher dose or even try your new 550 XD but I will be using a SERM if I go that route.

Can I keep taking a protein shake while on cycle? creatine?

When are you guys releasing the new Pre-workout formula? I am looking forward to try it
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Yah you want plenty of protein while on and maybe save creatine for PCT but that is not in stone. You need to run something between cycles though.

The new workout will be on in a month or so. It needs to be out before mid March I believe.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah you want plenty of protein while on and maybe save creatine for PCT but that is not in stone. You need to run something between cycles though.

The new workout will be on in a month or so. It needs to be out before mid March I believe.
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Great, I will be trying that pre-workout for sure. Now, one more question... Does 1-ANDRO aggraviates or gives lots of acne? I used to suffer from acne and took accutane awhile back, now I still get some acne but very mild. Should taking the PCT Revolution twice a day during cycle helps with acne related issues?
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Great, I will be trying that pre-workout for sure. Now, one more question... Does 1-ANDRO aggraviates or gives lots of acne? I used to suffer from acne and took accutane awhile back, now I still get some acne but very mild. Should taking the PCT Revolution twice a day during cycle helps with acne related issues?
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That's an individual thing, I have never gotten any from anythng I have taken. It is not reputed to do so and I don't remember 1-Test ever causing that problem. You would probably get more from test boosters...
 
HaroldEduardo said:
Great, I will be trying that pre-workout for sure. Now, one more question... Does 1-ANDRO aggraviates or gives lots of acne? I used to suffer from acne and took accutane awhile back, now I still get some acne but very mild. Should taking the PCT Revolution twice a day during cycle helps with acne related issues?
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Harold... 1-ANDRO is very mild, it is possible to have increased acne, but even that would be extremely mild and way less likely by taking 1PCT Black/night. Please don't get caught up in the mind-set that by taking 1cap/night is good, then taking 2caps/night must be better, because it is possible to eliminate too much estrogen which can cause problems as well, so just trust us and stick with 1 cap of PCT REV Black/night during and after cycle, only increase dose if you notice yourself getting puffy and hold a lot of excess water/bloat and/or nipple sensitivity, then you can up it to 2caps/night, but unless you notice those symptoms, I believe taking 2caps/night would be over-kill and wasting your money. Good Luck my friend and please feel free to ask any questions you want, if you like you can email me at [email protected]
 
ScottyDoc and Dreamweaver,

Thank you guys for all the help, you guys are great! Wish all supplements representatives were as helpful as you guys!! I just ordered my Finaflex 1-ANDRO and PCT Revolution. I still need to get my strength back before using them, I got an allergic reaction on my arm ( itchy rash) couple of weeks ago and got infected so I was on antibiotics for two weeks, that being said, I left the gym for 2 weeks :(. I just got back to the gym on monday and geez I can't believe how weak I felt, probably lost 50% of my strength, and my muscle sore a lot lol like I never lift weights before lol ... unbelievable!

So I'll be saving those bottles for later. I'll be buying my second PCT Revolution and PURE TEST in about 2-3 weeks, So I won't go on the cycle probably for about 30 days minimum. I'll update you guys as soon as I start the cycle, for now on, I will kill myself at the gym trying to get my strength back as soon as possible, can't wait to run my cycle!
 
HaroldEduardo said:
ScottyDoc and Dreamweaver,

Thank you guys for all the help, you guys are great! Wish all supplements representatives were as helpful as you guys!! I just ordered my Finaflex 1-ANDRO and PCT Revolution. I still need to get my strength back before using them, I got an allergic reaction on my arm ( itchy rash) couple of weeks ago and got infected so I was on antibiotics for two weeks, that being said, I left the gym for 2 weeks :(. I just got back to the gym on monday and geez I can't believe how weak I felt, probably lost 50% of my strength, and my muscle sore a lot lol like I never lift weights before lol ... unbelievable!

So I'll be saving those bottles for later. I'll be buying my second PCT Revolution and PURE TEST in about 2-3 weeks, So I won't go on the cycle probably for about 30 days minimum. I'll update you guys as soon as I start the cycle, for now on, I will kill myself at the gym trying to get my strength back as soon as possible, can't wait to run my cycle!
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Good, you want to bring your "A" gaime.... you should be the perfect candidate for a product like this. Just get your diet in order and your routine sorted. One thing I have learned about using anabolic products plan on hitting your heaviest weights during PCT. So a planned progression with your lifting is a great idea. Diet about 500 extra cals like Al mentioned earlier should be fine, plenty of protein though as protein synthesis should increase during cycle. Don't eat too sloppy but don't lose too much sleep over a cheat meal here and there, just try to plan it out ahead of time.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Good, you want to bring your "A" gaime.... you should be the perfect candidate for a product like this. Just get your diet in order and your routine sorted. One thing I have learned about using anabolic products plan on hitting your heaviest weights during PCT. So a planned progression with your lifting is a great idea. Diet about 500 extra cals like Al mentioned earlier should be fine, plenty of protein though as protein synthesis should increase during cycle. Don't eat too sloppy but don't lose too much sleep over a cheat meal here and there, just try to plan it out ahead of time.
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Agreed... Also just stay consistent with your diet and exercise... I can't say it enough "Consistency, consistency, consistency" that is how it is done! Also, don't fret over the muscle loss too much, "Muscle-Memory" you can get back what has been lost way, way quicker than earning it the first time, Trust me on that!!!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Agreed... Also just stay consistent with your diet and exercise... I can't say it enough "Consistency, consistency, consistency" that is how it is done! Also, don't fret over the muscle loss too much, "Muscle-Memory" you can get back what has been lost way, way quicker than earning it the first time, Trust me on that!!!
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Yah it doesn't take long to build back up once you've been there....
 
So besides taking black revolution during 1 andro cycle, is any other cycle support necessary? I will be running 4 pills 1 andro, 2 am/2 pm with 1 black at night. Black and pure test post. Thanks
 
pseudo said:
So besides taking black revolution during 1 andro cycle, is any other cycle support necessary? I will be running 4 pills 1 andro, 2 am/2 pm with 1 black at night. Black and pure test post. Thanks
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You could add in some Pure Test, some like to start it early like the last week of the cycle or mid cycle...It is not really necessary but may help.
 
ScottyDoc or DW,

Is there much water retention from taking 4 1-andro per day and 1 PCT Revolution at night? I'm into my first week on the cycle and have already gained 7 pounds eating virtually the same thing before I started on the PH.
 
consumedwfire said:
ScottyDoc or DW,

Is there much water retention from taking 4 1-andro per day and 1 PCT Revolution at night? I'm into my first week on the cycle and have already gained 7 pounds eating virtually the same thing before I started on the PH.
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1-Test was not a watery compound really, it was more the 4ad we used to take with it that caused more water retension. I would say the gains would be more on the dry side. The ideal situarion is to finish all your cycles with EPI-V and get bone dry and hard though...

Oh and the AI in the PCT black will keep you pretty dry as well so no worries...
 
Hello,
I'm a newbie here and first I just wanted to say these posts have been much help, thanks everyone. I was thinking about trying the 1-Andro for 30 days @ 4caps/day along with the PCT Black 1cap/day for 60 days and add the pure test @ the end of the cycle for 40 days, like some older posts suggest. My question is in regards to have a S.E.R.M. Even though a S.E.R.M might not be necessary since I'll be using PCT Black, I wanted to know what signs and/or red flags I should be looking out for that would let me know to start taking the S.E.R.M.?
 
consumedwfire said:
ScottyDoc or DW,

Is there much water retention from taking 4 1-andro per day and 1 PCT Revolution at night? I'm into my first week on the cycle and have already gained 7 pounds eating virtually the same thing before I started on the PH.
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Can you send us a sample day of what your diet is, sodium, &/or alcohol intake? What exercises you did that week?
 
hello i ended my cycle about a month ago and havent been able to get bak to with training and school and everything soo i apologize for that... as for my results when i began i was 184 i ran 3 pills of andro a day with 1 pct at night and after the pure test and pct... the results were amazing im 18 i was benching 225 around 7 to 8 on a good day... after the cycle i was up to 225 16 times repping out 275 6 times my weight went from 184 to 196 in one month of running 3 pills a day a medium cycle i became massive and didnt gain fat at all if anything slimmed down too my diet was excellent alot of protein a few cheat meals but if diet was perfection i gaurantee greater results.. i really enjoyed this product and thank you for all your help scotty!
 
JConWRX said:
Hello,
I'm a newbie here and first I just wanted to say these posts have been much help, thanks everyone. I was thinking about trying the 1-Andro for 30 days @ 4caps/day along with the PCT Black 1cap/day for 60 days and add the pure test @ the end of the cycle for 40 days, like some older posts suggest. My question is in regards to have a S.E.R.M. Even though a S.E.R.M might not be necessary since I'll be using PCT Black, I wanted to know what signs and/or red flags I should be looking out for that would let me know to start taking the S.E.R.M.?
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Loss in nut volume, lack of libido, lethargy... don't think you will experience a lot of these symptoms, it's fairly mild but you get very maintainable gains from it.

Have a serm handy if you like but just low dose it with the PCT black...
 
I am down to 189 pounds from 225 ...... I took 1 bottle of epi v and one bottle of andro...... about 3-4 months ago...... Now I am thinking of doing one more cycle in order to get lean and cut since I been taking fat burners and can see my abs and stuff..... basically I think this time around since my diet and weight is in check I will see good results especially since I have a good workout routine as well.... Now my question is .... if I am already down to around 12% ish body fat shoudl I jsut take 2 bottles of epi v or shoudl I mix it up again for size and cutting. Or shoudl I just continue to cut up and get to around 180 of pure lean muscle? I just wonder what may be the best choice. My diet is very strict right now as well.... I have barely any fat eating lots of fruit and vegetables egg whites and chicken..... I coudl do better on my carbs ...... but I do not really liek carbs anyhow kinda sucks....


Will epi v help get me cut and add some muscle mass as well?
 
cobrakhan5 said:
I am down to 189 pounds from 225 ...... I took 1 bottle of epi v and one bottle of andro...... about 3-4 months ago...... Now I am thinking of doing one more cycle in order to get lean and cut since I been taking fat burners and can see my abs and stuff..... basically I think this time around since my diet and weight is in check I will see good results especially since I have a good workout routine as well.... Now my question is .... if I am already down to around 12% ish body fat shoudl I jsut take 2 bottles of epi v or shoudl I mix it up again for size and cutting. Or shoudl I just continue to cut up and get to around 180 of pure lean muscle? I just wonder what may be the best choice. My diet is very strict right now as well.... I have barely any fat eating lots of fruit and vegetables egg whites and chicken..... I coudl do better on my carbs ...... but I do not really liek carbs anyhow kinda sucks....


Will epi v help get me cut and add some muscle mass as well?
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Honestly... I would just go with a double bottle of EPI-V and shred that $hit, summer's coming, it has probably been a really long time since you have been below 10% and with two bottles, if you diet correctly I do not see why you can't get to 8% or below, so go for it Bro, get sliced and diced and when that shirt comes off at the pool, look around for all the Ladies with open mouths and you will know you made the right decision!!!
 
I will be on a plane for Brazil March 1st =) Plannign on stuffing it in the bag under the plane.... hope customs does nto have an issue with that lol
Ok so I found a site where i can probably g et the supplements for 2 bottles the PTC black and a bottle of pure test at around 118 dolalrs..... any place I can do better price than that? I am also gonna need fast shipping since I am leaving pretty fast
 
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There you go 75 bucks and fast service... :)
 
cobrakhan5 said:
I will be on a plane for Brazil March 1st =) Plannign on stuffing it in the bag under the plane.... hope customs does nto have an issue with that lol
Ok so I found a site where i can probably g et the supplements for 2 bottles the PTC black and a bottle of pure test at around 118 dolalrs..... any place I can do better price than that? I am also gonna need fast shipping since I am leaving pretty fast
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no go to a1supplements, 1 bottle of pct black and 1 bottle pure test for 40 bucks

a1supplements dot com/Pure-Test-Combo-p-21205 dot html
 
I was thinking about using 1-andro stacked with - EPI-V for 30 days. I get drug tested by the state board of nursing usually twice a month my question is will this affect those drug tests?
 
drewzx3 said:
I was thinking about using 1-andro stacked with - EPI-V for 30 days. I get drug tested by the state board of nursing usually twice a month my question is will this affect those drug tests?
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I can't make any promises because I have no idea what drugs they will be testing for, if they are testing for Anabolic Steroids (extremely expensive test and highly unlikely, no job I know tests for those) then it will show up. I have been drug tested 2 times while in Nursing School and nothing every showed up on my Drug Tests, they are not checking for anabolics or they would show up!
 
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