PH cycle for MMA

bw31

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I've stopped my use of illegal aas due to my career goals. I can not use illegal stuff again. So now I am looking more into PH and PS products. I have transferred my focus from power lifting and strongman to mma. I use to wrestle in high school and college and have been training my stand up quite a bit. My form and technique is getting quite good and my trainers want me to get in the cage in the next 3 months. I am currently a very lean 220lbs. I am looking at supplements like halo, cyanostane, epistane, dienolone, dmz etc. all lean/dry gains.

Goals:
Lean mass
Vascularity
Conditioning

Unwanted:
Bloat
Back/calf cramping/pumps

Give me some cycle ideas and lets see what we can do!!
 
jbryand101b said:
give me some $$$$ and then we'll see what you can do.
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what do u mean?? I am not worried about price. That is not an issue. I will spend whatever I need to spend to get the best results. I've done cycles of aas that have ran me about a grand, so a few hundred on a ph cycle isn't a big deal.
 
I think jbry (and a few others of us) are tired of designing cycles for free, when you could dig deeper into reviews of said compounds to see what will help you meet your goals.

Time is money friend.

This post could have some useful information, seeing as how you don't want to get winded easily (I'm guessing) and probably have similar overall goals.

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ManBeast
 
if they test you, won't ph's just look like steroids anyway? what are they testing for, if at all? i'm currently in the process of switching to real gear over ph's due to the sides of ph's. no deca or anything like that, just test e and eq for now
 
It all depends on what metabolites they are testing for, or if its just for an elevated T-level or what... I have no idea what the different sanctioning bodies do and don't test for.

ManBeast
 
One of the guys I train with at the mma gym down here uses Epistane, he loves it for his mma and strength training routine. I'm thinking of running a cycle of epi myself this summer.
 
JudgementDay said:
One of the guys I train with at the mma gym down here uses Epistane, he loves it for his mma and strength training routine. I'm thinking of running a cycle of epi myself this summer.
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I was thinking a 6 week cycle of epi stacked with something like winztrol or something of that nature. I liked epi when I tried it like 4 years back. Still probably one of my favorite products to date, including all the real gear ive taken.
 
jbryand101b said:
give me some $$$$ and then we'll see what you can do.
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ManBeast said:
I think jbry (and a few others of us) are tired of designing cycles for free, when you could dig deeper into reviews of said compounds to see what will help you meet your goals.

Time is money friend.

This post could have some useful information, seeing as how you don't want to get winded easily (I'm guessing) and probably have similar overall goals.

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ManBeast
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I just want to say that this is hillarious. "pay me for my ideas"... Good to see where people's minds are at. I would rather not share my background because I would get called a troll or some bull$hit like that, but I have done quite a bit and accomplished quite a bit. Because of my background and my accomplishments, I am frequently asked for help with diet, training, etc. I have never even thought of asking anyone for money, because I would not be where I am if people before me didn't do the same for me. The only time I was paid at all was when I ran a camp for a high school and after being paid, I made a donation to their team. Not because I didn't need the money, but because helping others get to their optimal level of performance is something I believe we should all do. None of us would be here if it wasn't for someone helping us in the past.
 
If you search for posts by jbry and myself, we help *a lot* but helping isn't designing from the ground up... and I posted a link to you to a thread with a very similar question. Its not that we are unhelpful or aything, but the search feature (and reading back through a few pages) can really really open your eyes to a lot more information. It is a lot easier to answer "is this compound a good cycle for these goals" than "i have these goals and want someone to tell me what compound(s) to use to reach them."

ManBeast
 
apoxtle said:
if they test you, won't ph's just look like steroids anyway? what are they testing for, if at all? i'm currently in the process of switching to real gear over ph's due to the sides of ph's. no deca or anything like that, just test e and eq for now
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I'm not worried about the fighting as far as the test goes. I'm going into a field that I can not have any illegal drug use for 2 years prior to applying. E is good. Eq is good as well. I really preferred prop over any other test though, as it kicked in fast and didn't bloat me very much. With e I had to use an ai...

ManBeast said:
It all depends on what metabolites they are testing for, or if its just for an elevated T-level or what... I have no idea what the different sanctioning bodies do and don't test for.

ManBeast
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They really don't test unless you get into a natrual or highly tested division. Most bigger bodies test for cocaine, marijuana, and other street drugs but not steroids because of the cost of the tests.

ManBeast said:
If you search for posts by jbry and myself, we help *a lot* but helping isn't designing from the ground up... and I posted a link to you to a thread with a very similar question. Its not that we are unhelpful or aything, but the search feature (and reading back through a few pages) can really really open your eyes to a lot more information. It is a lot easier to answer "is this compound a good cycle for these goals" than "i have these goals and want someone to tell me what compound(s) to use to reach them."

ManBeast
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Sorry about the blow up... I did include the compounds I had looked at in my op. I simply do not know much about ph supplements because I have taken real aas for that last few years. I see so many mixed reviews on pretty much every ph that I just want some good ideas of which is effective for the goals I have.

I am thinking that my cycle is going to look something like this:
30mg epistane and 3 caps cyanostane a day for 4-6 weeks
 
Week 1 - Beastdrol 20mg
Week 2 - Beastdrol 20mg
Week 3 - Beastdrol 20mg E-Stane 40mg
Week 4 - E-Stane 40mg
Week 5 - E-Stane 40mg
Week 6 - E- Stane 40mg

This is considered a lean bulk.. Look into it.
 
fireworkz788 said:
Week 1 - Beastdrol 20mg
Week 2 - Beastdrol 20mg
Week 3 - Beastdrol 20mg E-Stane 40mg
Week 4 - E-Stane 40mg
Week 5 - E-Stane 40mg
Week 6 - E- Stane 40mg

This is considered a lean bulk.. Look into it.
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one of my buddies recommended something similar. looks like a solid idea.
 
You'll probably get a little bloat at the beginning from the superdrol, but it should go away quite fast as soon as you introduce the epistane. If you just want to run one compound you can look into helladrol, its amazing for lean bulk/recomp cycles.

ManBeast
 
bw31 said:
I just want to say that this is hillarious. "pay me for my ideas"... Good to see where people's minds are at.
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good to have a sense of humor. always nice to see guys laughing at the supplement companies that pay me for my advice. im laughing too, all the way to the bank.
 
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