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Dbol/Deca/TestE ... Pins?

Vote4pedro

Vote4pedro

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Ok so i posted a while back about this stack, got the doses straight and im ready to start


dbol to 40mg(2weeks then might bump up, total of 4 weeks)
test at 500/12wk (split in 2 pins)
deca at 400/12wk (split in 2 pins)

My question would be, when and where to pin nd take pills ... Can u mix TestE nd Deca in the same syringe nd then pin?

Here is my plan
Dbol 20mg am, 20 mg before workout (if i bump add more to pre)
TestE/Deca(If i can mix) Monday and Friday in am
If not
TestE Monday nd Thursday
Deca Tuesday nd Friday

I only pin in glutes, done leg and couldnt walk, arm i dont dare unless somebody else does it (my chest is kinda big so hard to reach that 90degree)

Bonus: Creatine? Anybody? Lol i never taken but got a ****load sitting around, i read how u do the load up for a week at 25g a day and then 5g a day to maintain ... Any thoughts?

Ill be taking as supplement

100% Whey (pre and post)
100% Casein before bed
Multivitamins
Liver Protect

As work out is 3 days heavy lifting, lot of Squats, Bench, Deadlifts, Presses, etc etc similars to the MadCow 5x5
3 days HIIT nd abs(weighted)

And diet
semi,high carb on lifting days 3,500 cals
Medium on cardio and abs 3,000 cals
High protein

My stats 5'11 195lbs 10% BF 25 years old
Been lifting for about 6 years
And im on my 3 cycle ... So yeah that pretty much should wrap it up

I will start a clean thread with pics and updates every week or 2 so stay posted if u wanna see how it goes
 
PCT?
Cycle Support?

Yes you can mix the two in one syringe, you just can't push back the second one once you've drawn it up. So I'd personally draw the deca up first and then the test (because personally I'd be less worried about extra test than extra deca).

ManBeast
 
I would stop deca 2 weeks before test or make test 2 weeks longer. I myself would save creatine for pct but it's up to u.
 
if both are oil baed, its fine to take in same syringe

dose all dbol pre w/o IME its better

take creatine on and off

if it hurts, try pinning less in more spots. like 2 pins when you do it smaller amounts
 
ManBeast said:
PCT?
Cycle Support?

Yes you can mix the two in one syringe, you just can't push back the second one once you've drawn it up. So I'd personally draw the deca up first and then the test (because personally I'd be less worried about extra test than extra deca).

ManBeast
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PCT just Nolva, has worked for me I'm the past ... Why fix it if it ain't broken ... 40/40/20/20

HCG on hand for shrinkage nd trying to get Prami in case of prolactin
 
GeekPoop said:
if both are oil baed, its fine to take in same syringe

dose all dbol pre w/o IME its better

take creatine on and off

if it hurts, try pinning less in more spots. like 2 pins when you do it smaller amounts
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Ok I'll prob just take all the dbol pre workout then ... Thanks
 
Deca has a longer ester and will stay in your system longer than the test.

ManBeast
 
Thanks manbeast for answering for me. By the way, don't run nolva for pct. Deca is 19nor and it might make prolactin sides worst. Stick with clomid
 
Yeah, i missed that part, clomid is much better for 19nor compounds.

and YW man :)

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
Yeah, i missed that part, clomid is much better for 19nor compounds.

and YW man :)

ManBeast
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Ok ill do some more researxh in that aspect, wasnt so concerned with PCT thus far, i mean i had it planned but never read anything on 19nor compounds, so ill read into it tonight maybe order tomorrow ... Have u guys runed this cycle already?
 
Vote4pedro said:
Ok ill do some more researxh in that aspect, wasnt so concerned with PCT thus far, i mean i had it planned but never read anything on 19nor compounds, so ill read into it tonight maybe order tomorrow ... Have u guys runed this cycle already?
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ive done tren e /test e dbol.

use hcg on this cycle for sure tho

clomi 50x4 weeks and you'll be fine. my nips get a little weird looking / puffy no matter how much i dose ancillaries or the drugs. it clears within a week of discontinued use, so don't be worried
 
I'm actually almost done with
Superdrol kickstart 1-4week
Test e- 500mg 1-14week
Deca- 300mg 1-12week
Caber 1mg a week cause nipples kinda feel like it's flaring.
Ai eod
Clomid
Hcg towards end of cycle
Cycle assist and other support supps

Hate typing on iPhone, but u got the idea
 
I ran test-e, tren, and d-bol myself, used hcg and clomid as part of my cycle support and PCT.

ManBeast
 
Mixing in syringe is fine.
Take injectables every 4 days.
Take tabs all at once.
HCG during if needed.
Nolv/Clomid as PCT.
 
Ok so if I'm gonna use HCG while on cycle would I do 5,000 iu a week? But what weeks and how often then? And how many weeks after cycles after last pin before I start Clomid if I was to do that? I was think taking 2 weeks off and then start the Nolva
 
There are several different aproaches to using HCG. Assuming you stop the deca 2 weeks before you stop the test (i'd run deca for 12 weeks, test for 14), you would start the clomid at the start of week 17.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
There are several different aproaches to using HCG. Assuming you stop the deca 2 weeks before you stop the test (i'd run deca for 12 weeks, test for 14), you would start the clomid at the start of week 17.

ManBeast
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Ok yeah, that's kind of what I had in mind but with Nolva, but after doing some research I am about to order the Clomid here soon ... So 50g everyday for 4 weeks sounds like what I'll do ... HCG is on hand but it seems un necessary unless effects of shrinkage but u guys keep stating it towards the end of cycle and I don't see why unless u see something's wrong ...
 
HCG is used throughout the cycle up to right before pct starts. So for you I'd use it at say.... weeks 4, 8, 12, and 16. For the clomid you are better off with a dosing of something like 150/150/100/100/50/50 for a longer cycle like the one you are running IMHO.

If you are running both nolva and clomid I'd do something like:
nolva: 40/40/20/20/10/10
clomid: 50/50/50/25/25/25

You need to stay on/use a liver support during pct with nolva as well.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
HCG is used throughout the cycle up to right before pct starts. So for you I'd use it at say.... weeks 4, 8, 12, and 16. For the clomid you are better off with a dosing of something like 150/150/100/100/50/50 for a longer cycle like the one you are running IMHO.

If you are running both nolva and clomid I'd do something like:
nolva: 40/40/20/20/10/10
clomid: 50/50/50/25/25/25

You need to stay on/use a liver support during pct with nolva as well.

ManBeast
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Mmmhhhhh I'm prob gonna do the Nolva/Clomid

What doses of HCG on those weeks

BTW thanks for sharing all this knowledge bro, good looking out
 
150mgs of clomi? lol

pct is asenine choose one or the other. I dont see the reason to run them both at the full dose that makes no sense. more isnt always better. + youre gonna use HCG so whats the big worry?
 
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