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What supplements have surprised you most?

Surprised in a good way: Agmatine. To me, the best part of Protocol by Genomyx. I now add it to my own bulk PWO mix.
Surprised in a bad way: Anabeta / Ursobolic (tie). That's what I get for believing the hype. Absolutely NO positive effects from taking these. Ursobolic may be cheaper, but I bought multiple bottles, so I ended up paying as much as I did for Anabeta. Lesson learned.
Interested to try: GPLC. Maybe I'll jump on the Primaforce bulk while it's still cheap. Doesn't look like the tub will last long; most studies I see say 4.5 g is a correct dosage.
 
stein where did you get your alanine from? thinking about getting primaforce (19 and free shipping on amazon) or through a bulk site
 
I don't see a whole lot of GDAs mentioned.
 
Yohimbine has always surprised me.
 
Agamatine
 
JP8X Hardcore (Peligro) The best preworkout powder with 1,3 that I have used and it only
has 150 mg of caffeine per scoop and you don't need more than 1 - 1 1/4 scoops to have
a fantastic workout. I had Mesomorph as my favorite but JP8X Hardcore by Diesel Nutrition
just beats it out for the great focus and recovery you get from it.
Diesel Test Hardcore stacked with Triazole is also a combo that I used this past year with
great success and everyone who I have recommended this combo to have also had great
results. Diesel Nutrition products have always delivered great results for me and Triazole
was the first product that I tried from DS Nut. I look forward to trying thier new preworkout
powder Craze.
 
Craze is GREAT.

But I think I should only take it once in a great while... it gives me the worse case of insomnia ever.... Today I dosed it at 6am I hope that I will be able to sleep tonight....
 
mattrag said:
Craze is GREAT.

But I think I should only take it once in a great while... it gives me the worse case of insomnia ever.... Today I dosed it at 6am I hope that I will be able to sleep tonight....
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Im happy to say I havent gotten this side effect yet any 1,3 product will do that to me
 
SweetLou321 said:
Im happy to say I havent gotten this side effect yet any 1,3 product will do that to me
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1,3 products for me just kill my appetite. I really like that effect though haha. I can take 1,3 and sleep around 5 hours after... pretty soundly... this stuff I take around 5pm and it keeps me awake till 4am... but the concentration effects and stuff are great. I think the next time I dose it I will try to do half a scoop. If I remember... I'm not used to dosing anything but max doses of pretty much every supplement I take...
 
for me so far it has been
Animal rage...i love adaptogens
Ecdy at 6caps per day

trying out TT33 for the first time and it is a lot like SHIFT in that it has 3,3 diodo thyronine but also has 3,5...
 
JN230 said:
for me so far it has been
Animal rage...i love adaptogens
Ecdy at 6caps per day

trying out TT33 for the first time and it is a lot like SHIFT in that it has 3,3 diodo thyronine but also has 3,5...
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Animal rage is underdosed by far, check out focus xt
 
R1balla said:
anabeta

i really doubted it at first but i love it now.
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What were your overall results/benefits from it?
 
Diesel Test Pro-Cycle is by far the best T booster I've used!
Athletix Formula X is awesome too!
Also dig Muscle Marinade and Mesomorph for pre w/o

Fadogia and Bulbine supps were a complete waste of time and money for me..
 
mich29 said:
oxygen 4 air.completely blew me away.no pun intended
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Never heard of it.
 
but i FEEL good onanimal rage i have heard amazing things about focus xt but rage kicks pretty hard at 1 scoop for no DMAA.

i wouldnt expect that from focus. plus rage is cheaper, id love to give focus t a try though
 
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