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Wilpit attempts the "V Cut"

Your lower belly fat? Where... Ur well on your way I'm a good way man.

As far as these fat burners go... I've tried OEP too stim heavy. Not huge fan of many fat burners now a days. I think the diet and cardio is just as effective. I say that cause I believe that and I don't really like fat burners lol :) maybe I'll change my mind in the future.

Also I could give a damn about 1,3. I do use PWO, but I've tried the old school coffee method and 1-2 cups is definitely nice and natural :)
 
AaronJP1 said:
Your lower belly fat? Where... Ur well on your way I'm a good way man.

As far as these fat burners go... I've tried OEP too stim heavy. Not huge fan of many fat burners now a days. I think the diet and cardio is just as effective. I say that cause I believe that and I don't really like fat burners lol :) maybe I'll change my mind in the future.
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Lol, the lower body fat is def there. I'm not a big supp guy other then my protein and creatine mono. But I figured using the OEP will help with my goals and I had it on hand. I am enjoying it and haven't felt that it is to stim heavy, for me at least. But I agree diet and cardio is 95% of it.
 
Wilpit said:
Lol, the lower body fat is def there. I'm not a big supp guy other then my protein and creatine mono. But I figured using the OEP will help with my goals and I had it on hand. I am enjoying it and haven't felt that it is to stim heavy, for me at least. But I agree diet and cardio is 95% of it.
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The stims just make me feel better on diet, and allow me to push harder in the workouts.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Subbin late
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Thanks for joining. And mattrag I agree about the stims. In sure they come In handy for me big time especially since my calories are so low.
 
Wilpit said:
What do you mean Re feeding? I eat every 2-3 hours and I'm hardly ever Hungry. I love pushing heavy weight. Used to be stronger when I was 285 lol but I can't get away from heavy training.
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I think he was referring to carb re-feeds, or carb cycling
 
indysoccer16 said:
I think he was referring to carb re-feeds, or carb cycling
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I actually wasn't sure what a carb refeed was at the time. I usually refer to it as carb loading. But it looks like I need to get up on my lingo. Thanks for the input though, I just googled the term.
 
np man.
I did the primal diet for a while and one of the best things that I did while I was on it was stacking 3 re-feed days in a row centered around my workouts. (I workout M-W-F) So I would refeed up 250-350g of carbs t/w/th and then the other 4 days I stayed under 150

I was doing re-feeds on the days I was working out because of some reading I had done that suggested it would work best. But a couple people I know who lift and stick to a strict primal diet said to put them together so I did and I was building quite a bit of mass, and dropping LBS at a decent rate. Then on M/F I saved most of my carbs for post workout and got them from a good starchy source like a sweet potato. the other carbs were pre workout but I kept them limited

Def started to trim the lower Belly fat and the love handles and helped me get the V you are working for.
Then I took 7 months off of lifting and just ate and now I have to bust my ass to get it back haha.


*Should note that I went against what some people say, and no matter what day it was I DIDN'T eat my carbs until after 4-7 at night and ate all of them in a 2 hours window. After talking to some people that I trust getting advice from I made the switch to that method. (I workout in the evening
It gave me almost a small fast because during the day when I was the most active, I was running off of mostly fat and protein during the day which I think is what really helped me to drop the weight I needed to to trim up. Then in the evning I would eat my carbs, and since my body was run ragged either from lifting or cardio so my body was eating the carbs up quickly and then while I was sleeping it was still repairing everything with the carbs and protein.

Not evenone will agree with me, a lot might not but it worked great for me and about 5 other people that tried it and you can't argue with results
 
indysoccer16 said:
np man.
I did the primal diet for a while and one of the best things that I did while I was on it was stacking 3 re-feed days in a row centered around my workouts. (I workout M-W-F) So I would refeed up 250-350g of carbs t/w/th and then the other 4 days I stayed under 150

I was doing re-feeds on the days I was working out because of some reading I had done that suggested it would work best. But a couple people I know who lift and stick to a strict primal diet said to put them together so I did and I was building quite a bit of mass, and dropping LBS at a decent rate. Then on M/F I saved most of my carbs for post workout and got them from a good starchy source like a sweet potato. the other carbs were pre workout but I kept them limited

Def started to trim the lower Belly fat and the love handles and helped me get the V you are working for.
Then I took 7 months off of lifting and just ate and now I have to bust my ass to get it back haha.

*Should note that I went against what some people say, and no matter what day it was I DIDN'T eat my carbs until after 4-7 at night and ate all of them in a 2 hours window. After talking to some people that I trust getting advice from I made the switch to that method. (I workout in the evening
It gave me almost a small fast because during the day when I was the most active, I was running off of mostly fat and protein during the day which I think is what really helped me to drop the weight I needed to to trim up. Then in the evning I would eat my carbs, and since my body was run ragged either from lifting or cardio so my body was eating the carbs up quickly and then while I was sleeping it was still repairing everything with the carbs and protein.

Not evenone will agree with me, a lot might not but it worked great for me and about 5 other people that tried it and you can't argue with results
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Thanks for the input. I think the carb cycling and re feeds is something I may possibly throw in during this transformation. I don't disagree with your carbs their. I read the same thing previously in a Skip LaCour article.
 
So this post will be about the OxyElitePro. I started taking the OEP last Monday 1/12 which is the same day I started this post. I weighed in at 208.8 pounds that morning. I have not weighed myself since Saturday after my workout. I weighed in at 199 pounds sat, 1/6. But this is not accurate of course due to water weight lost during the workout. I plan to weight myself and take more progress picks this Thursday. I will post them as soon as I record them. Since last Monday I have been taking 2 OEP a day. One In the morning and one in the afternoon about 5 hours later. I tried to take the second one before my workout depending on what time I go to the gym.

The only other supps I am taking right now is a multi vitamin, fish oil, bcaa, protein powder and creatine mono. I actually ran out of creatine yesterday so I will have to get more sometime soon.

In the last week of taking OEP I have not had any side effects or any extreme jittery feeling whatsoever. I take the first pill first thing in the Morning about 30 minutes before I eat anything. During that 30 minutes I can start to feel an "unsettled" feeling within 5 minutes of taking OEP. It's not unbearable or even uncomfortable. It's just enough of a reaction to know that something is happening in my body. This morning when I took the pill I felt that same unsettled feeling but it subsided as soon as i ate my first meal of the day.

I don't take a pre wo supp but can tell that with the OEP I am sweating a lot more and I also have energy in the gym. I feel like I'm always focused as soon as I enter the gym and this focus is still present with the OEP. My metabolism and heart rate get pretty high while working out on OEP. I can this mostly by the fact that when im done I am still sweating 45 minutes later and my breathing is still heavy. It does not feel like an unhealthy feeling, the breathing is controlled but heavier then usual.

I will keep taking the OEP at 1/1 and perhaps as I get closer to my goal I will change it to 2/1. I have been seeing changes in my appearance in just one week and it feels good. I'm sure the extra kick from OEP is helping.
 
Today was an arm day

I took my second OEP 30 min before my workout with some BCAA and took notice to the way I felt before and during my workout. I got to the gym and started with 26 min cardio. I didn't feel that "unsettled" feeling with this pill. I think that has to do with the fact that the pill in the morning is taken with a completely empty stomach. I started my cardio and could feel a little bit of a tingling feeling throughout my body nothing very noticeable though. My body felt a little bit Warmer and I was starting to get a heavy sweat in about 5 min of my cardio. I finished my cardio was completely drenched. Did not get tired at all during this cardio session and had good energy. After cardio I went straight to my workout. My total gym time including cardio was about 140 minutes. I had energy the entire workout and didn't lose to much intensity throughout my gym session. But I hardly ever get to tired during my workout sessions I'm always focused when I am at the gym.

Bicep
Barbell curl 45x24, 65x20,95x18,135x10 first 3 sets were split in half inside grip and extra wide grip.
Hammer curl 1 arm alternate 40x15,50x12,60x10,70x8,80x8 last two sets done by bringing db across chest
One arm db incline concentration curl 40x12,45x10,50x8,55x6
Alternate cable curl 25x20,30x18,35x15x42.5x10
Reverse preacher curl concentrated 30x15,40x12,50x10,30x10
Two arm slow hammer curl db 35x12,40x10,45x8

Tricep
Lightweight slow concentration tricep extension 27.5x15,40x12,60x10,80x8,70x10
Db kickbacks 40x15,50x12,60x10,70x8,80x6
Skull crushers 100x12, 110x10 ,110x8
One arm cable reverse pull downs
15x15x20x12,25x10,30x10,35x10,42.5x10,50x10
One arm cable kick backs 15x10,20x10,25x10

Ended with 25 min of moderate cardio. Felt like a good day Vascularity seemed extra Today and achieved good arm pumps.

Macros for the day:
1,554 calories
203g protein
118g carbs (35g fiber)
35g fat

I will most likely have a shake by the End of the night. My shakes are 40g protein and 210 calories. Carbs are higher today due to my wife making homemade Kumquat bread. I'm sure these macros are slightly off due to not knowing the exact nutrition facts for this homemade bread. But I rounded as best I could. Either way wasn't a bad day. I haven't used the bathroom since Saturday even with the high fiber intake. I had a lot of alcohol this weekend and lots of food so I know I got some food to expel. I think I should be good soon though lol.
 
No bathroom since Saturday?
Need some greens or fiber lol
 
AaronJP1 said:
No bathroom since Saturday?
Need some greens or fiber lol
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I'd go nuts.

I think u r burning too much cals to really go.. When you're in a constant deficit your body will hold on to everything. U mean need to have an early cheat day and reset ur system if u don't Go by wed... Just eat as much as u can of healthy stuff like fibrous beans, chicken, veggies, etc. Smooth move tea works great too. But whenever my caloric intake is as low as urs and I'm burning it all off.. It's usually rare to have consistent or satisfying bm...
 
chedapalooza said:
I'd go nuts.

I think u r burning too much cals to really go.. When you're in a constant deficit your body will hold on to everything. U mean need to have an early cheat day and reset ur system if u don't Go by wed... Just eat as much as u can of healthy stuff like fibrous beans, chicken, veggies, etc. Smooth move tea works great too. But whenever my caloric intake is as low as urs and I'm burning it all off.. It's usually rare to have consistent or satisfying bm...
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I think you may be right as far as my body holding onto everything. I actually went to the bathroom last Night and this Morning and they were good sessions, lol. But I'll make sure I'll keep my fiber high from here on out. I may throw a cheat meal in sometime soon as well.
 
Back day with abs

Started with 3x10 xtra wide grip pull ups followed by 3x10 inside reverse grip pull ups
Wide grip bent over rows 135x15,185x12,225x10,275x8,315x6 (superset the first 3 sets with wide grip pull ups)
One arm barbell (against wall) rows
115x15,150x12,185x10,220x8, 255x6
Close grip Tbar row 180x15,225x12,270x8,360x6(last set the 45lb plates have to go in the back of the t-bar row so the weight isn't as true in my opinion)
Finished with a a giant set circuit x3. Consisted of close grip lat pull downs , low pulley and standing wide grip lat pull downs (think that's what's its called)

Then did 20 min weighted abs. Started with 13 min cardio and ended with 20 min cardio.

Also, Took my OEP this morning on empty stomach. Same uneasy feeling and it didn't go away after my first meal but that's prob bc first meal today was a protein shake due to time constraints. I took the pull about 3.5 hours before my workout and I still has a crazy sweat during my entire workout. Felt good the entire workout as well. Will take second pill later today.
 
Macros for the day:
1,797 calories
51g fat
148g carbs
214g protein

Calories and carbs are a little higher then they were last week. I like to keep my carbs under 100. They aren't high so I'm ok with it and my protein intake is still good. It's late but I may have another shake if I stay up so that will put me over 250g or protein for the day. Higher carbs today bc of a work get together. Eventually gave into the finger foods. I'll make up for it with a lower carb day tomorrow and try to hit some more cardio. Cardio has been good this week but starting Friday it may have to slow down due to going back to work (vacation this week). But once again not sweating less cardio. If I keep my diet clean I will still lose and save more muscle.
 
Wilpit said:
Macros for the day:
1,797 calories
51g fat
148g carbs
214g protein

Calories and carbs are a little higher then they were last week. I like to keep my carbs under 100. They aren't high so I'm ok with it and my protein intake is still good. It's late but I may have another shake if I stay up so that will put me over 250g or protein for the day. Higher carbs today bc of a work get together. Eventually gave into the finger foods. I'll make up for it with a lower carb day tomorrow and try to hit some more cardio. Cardio has been good this week but starting Friday it may have to slow down due to going back to work (vacation this week). But once again not sweating less cardio. If I keep my diet clean I will still lose and save more muscle.
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*But once again not sweating less cardio. If I keep my diet clean I will still lose and save more muscle*

I lost weight on my cruise Christmas day to new years. I worked out on the boat but my sessions were short and intense . Cardio was half of what I normally do. They key? Eating right! That week really helped solidify that in my mind that less is more and nutrition is paramount! Looking forward to more results for u
 
chedapalooza said:
*But once again not sweating less cardio. If I keep my diet clean I will still lose and save more muscle*

I lost weight on my cruise Christmas day to new years. I worked out on the boat but my sessions were short and intense . Cardio was half of what I normally do. They key? Eating right! That week really helped solidify that in my mind that less is more and nutrition is paramount! Looking forward to more results for u
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The less is more theory is one that has always scared me but it has proven to work. I'm just going to continue to do whatever cardio I can but keep my workouts intense while watching my diet. Hoping that within the next couple weeks I see some progress that I can take pics of and post.
 
Took my OEP this morning and didn't have that uneasy feeling. I guess I'm getting used to it. If I continue to not get that uneasy feeling in the morning I'll think about upping my intake to 2 pills in the morning.

Today was a chest day. I started with 17 min of cardio and again obtained a great sweat.

Flat barbell bench 135x40,185x20,225x12,275x8, 315x4 spot on last rep
Incline dumbbell bench 100x12,110x10,120x4 w/ little spot then drop set to 65 until failure. 100x8 drop set to 75 until failure then another drop set to 50 until failure
Barbell decline bench 135x40,185x17,225x8, 135x30
Machine fly 90x15,150x12,190x10,230x4 then drop set to 110 until failure.
Dumbbell pull overs 85lbs 3x12
One arm cable underhand flys (unsur of name) 15x10,20x10,25x10,15x10
Push ups 3 sets until failure

Finished with 30 min moderate cardio. Took my second OEP midway between workout. Noticed an intense sweat during my cardio session at the end of the workout. It was a moderate cardio session so I was surprised at how much I sweat.

It was a short day so no time for another meal. Wish I could get note protein in. I may stay up a little late just to get a shake in before bed to put me over 200 on the day and get my calories a little higher.

Macros
1,174 calories
168g protein
84g carbohydrate
24g fat
 
Hopefully u got that extra shake in. 168 is lowwww . Especially w the cardio and fat burners .. Gotta keep the body fueled just enough or u will retain fat! It's such a delicate balance!
 
chedapalooza said:
Hopefully u got that extra shake in. 168 is lowwww . Especially w the cardio and fat burners .. Gotta keep the body fueled just enough or u will retain fat! It's such a delicate balance!
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Very true I have tried dieting down with only like 2 chicken breasts a day with some brocolli and lost practically no weight... The body needs fuel to know it's not trapped in a well or something. But if you are seeing them results..... ;)
 
mattrag said:
Very true I have tried dieting down with only like 2 chicken breasts a day with some brocolli and lost practically no weight... The body needs fuel to know it's not trapped in a well or something. But if you are seeing them results..... ;)
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Mhmm I've done my fair share of crash diets. Thy work for like 4/5 days then I get flat, depressed, soft, and just a wreck physically and mentally.. No bueno.
 
chedapalooza said:
Mhmm I've done my fair share of crash diets. Thy work for like 4/5 days then I get flat, depressed, soft, and just a wreck physically and mentally.. No bueno.
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I agree with you and mattrag . The one thing I like getting in is my protein. I did get the shake by the way. I am going back to work today so hopefully I can keep up with my meals. I cook 3-4 days in advance and pack so I should be ok.
 
Deadlifts traps

23 min cardio to start.

Deadlifts 135x15,225x12,315x10,405x8, 455x4
Good mornings 45x15,95x12,135x10,185x8
Leg curls 70x10,90x10,110x10
Barbell shrugs 135x20,185x20,225x20,315x10,405x7,495x5
Dumbbell shrugs 140lb 3x15

30 min weighted abs and finished with 20 min cardio.

Took my OEP this morning before work and no jittery feeling. Took my second before workout and had a great sweat like always. Starting to see a small change in my body fat around the midsection. Hopefully pics coming soon.

Also trying to make sure I get more protein. Today work was hectic and couldn't get all my meals In when I wanted.

Macros
2,020 calories
307g protein
87g carbs
53g fat

Feel much better about my macros today. Longer day so I could get more meals in.
 
Wilpit said:
Deadlifts traps

23 min cardio to start.

Deadlifts 135x15,225x12,315x10,405x8, 455x4
Good mornings 45x15,95x12,135x10,185x8
Leg curls 70x10,90x10,110x10
Barbell shrugs 135x20,185x20,225x20,315x10,405x7,495x5
Dumbbell shrugs 140lb 3x15

30 min weighted abs and finished with 20 min cardio.

Took my OEP this morning before work and no jittery feeling. Took my second before workout and had a great sweat like always. Starting to see a small change in my body fat around the midsection. Hopefully pics coming soon.

Also trying to make sure I get more protein. Today work was hectic and couldn't get all my meals In when I wanted.

Macros
2,020 calories
307g protein
87g carbs
53g fat

Feel much better about my macros today. Longer day so I could get more meals in.
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damn heavy deads! Strong today eh?

Food looks a little better. Gotta make sure you dont starve for too long... or youll have a metabolism like mine... doesnt lose weight on anything under 1000 cals...
 
mattrag said:
damn heavy deads! Strong today eh?

Food looks a little better. Gotta make sure you dont starve for too long... or youll have a metabolism like mine... doesnt lose weight on anything under 1000 cals...
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Yeah man I am definitely working on getting my diet better. I like when I get 300g of protein a day but I don't like eating more the. 40g of protein at a time. I want to make sure my body is not wasting any protein so i don't want to scarf down 60g at a sitting. Deadlifts were good today and
Hopefully I can keep it up and get heavier as I perform them more often.
 
Wilpit said:
Yeah man I am definitely working on getting my diet better. I like when I get 300g of protein a day but I don't like eating more the. 40g of protein at a time. I want to make sure my body is not wasting any protein so i don't want to scarf down 60g at a sitting. Deadlifts were good today and
Hopefully I can keep it up and get heavier as I perform them more often.
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hehe, the body knows what to do best ;)

sadly I had to take out my deads this next training cycle but I will add them back sometime hopefully. For now it's just squatting.
 
I don't think you're supposed to wear thigh-pads under your skin, bro.

But seriously, very nice work. Hope your cut goes well!
 
mattrag said:
hehe, the body knows what to do best ;)

sadly I had to take out my deads this next training cycle but I will add them back sometime hopefully. For now it's just squatting.
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I know what you mean man. I sometimes take them out of my routine as well. I squat and Deadlift in every lifting routine I follow but after a while my lower back needs a break.
 
Torobestia said:
I don't think you're supposed to wear thigh-pads under your skin, bro.

But seriously, very nice work. Hope your cut goes well!
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Lol, thanks man I appreciate the support.
 
Shoulder day

Started with a 15 minute outdoor (30 degrees) run, jog, hill, stairs cardio session. Pretty much ran through a park and ran on everything that looked like
Fun. Then went straight to the indoor treadmill for another 17 min moderate jog.

Standing Lateral raises
25x15, 35x12, 40x10, 45x8, 55x6
Seated machine shoulder press
60x15,80x15,110x12,120x12, 140x812
Seated barbell shoulder press
95x12, 115x10,135x8
Seated barbell pronated grip press
95x15,115x12,135x10
Bent over lateral raises
45x15,55x12,65x10,75x8, 85x6
Db front raises
25x15,35x12,45x10,55x8
Bentover cable lateral raises
20x15,30x12,40x10,50x8
Barbell high pulls
95x15,115x12,135x10
Cable front raises then straight to cable lateral raises 20lbsx20 for two sets same weight.
Standing dumbbell shoulder press
40x20,50x15,60x10

Went light on almost all my lifts bc my shoulders are hurting. I decided to go high volume but I still didn't get the pump I was looking for. I'll have a better shoulder workout next week hopefully. Didn't have the energy today. Should have took my second OEP before workout instead it was taken a couple hours before. It was prob just one of those days.

Ended with 32 min cardio. Averaging 7.5mph

Finally added fish to my diet. Starting with whiting and tilapia. Oh I hate fish. Ate with green Tabasco sauce and pico de gallo, it was edible this way.

Macros
2,164 calories
295g protein
136g carb
54g fat
 
Progress pics

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These are just the ab area but I see a difference. The last two days I have weighed about 202 pounds in the morn and around 205 before bed. These pics were taken in the morning.

Today's gym was just a cardio session. 50 min of treadmill and stair climber,

Macros

1,868 calories
327g protein
44g carb
42g fat

Good overall day with diet. Ate extremely clean. I did pick at some vanilla cake with no icing but it wasn't really that much so I didn't take the energy to calculate it,
 
Still going nuts in here I see.
I don't think I can ever lost heavy weight.
Trying to burn b/f yes, but the method I'm trying to eat more, add more protein in and work out that much harder which I think or at least hope will result in b/f loss and muscle gain.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Still going nuts in here I see.
I don't think I can ever lost heavy weight.
Trying to burn b/f yes, but the method I'm trying to eat more, add more protein in and work out that much harder which I think or at least hope will result in b/f loss and muscle gain.
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Man I hear you. People at the gym and family are starting to notice my getting smaller and it's killing me. I'm so badly wanting to just start a lean bulk. I'll finish trying to achieve this hard 6 pack and "v cut" and If that doesn't work I'm putting some mass on. The hard 6 pack is only worth so much. I don't know if being small is worth it lol. But I'll give it a couple months and try to just lose this weight slow and maintain what muscle I can. Cheat day today, (upgraded from just a cheat meal) but I won't to to crazy I hope.
 
Cheat day yesterday was bad. I enjoyed it but I won't have another one like that again. I will keep it to a cheat meal for the future. I am a binge eater and Love to eat. I literally ate around 20-24 home cooked muffins yesterday and for dinner I had 4 slices of pizza hut with 8 fried chicken wings. I still went to the gym and I still had my regular high protein meals besides the pizza and chicken dinner. The muffins were just an all day eating binge. But I feel good this morning and I am ready to get back into things. It's funny bc I have been weighing 201 points in the morning on average lately and this morning I weighed in at 209.8.
 
Wilpit said:
Cheat day yesterday was bad. I enjoyed it but I won't have another one like that again. I will keep it to a cheat meal for the future. I am a binge eater and Love to eat. I literally ate around 20-24 home cooked muffins yesterday and for dinner I had 4 slices of pizza hut with 8 fried chicken wings. I still went to the gym and I still had my regular high protein meals besides the pizza and chicken dinner. The muffins were just an all day eating binge. But I feel good this morning and I am ready to get back into things. It's funny bc I have been weighing 201 points in the morning on average lately and this morning I weighed in at 209.8.
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What kind of muffins? lol
 
wow bro that is one heck of a cheat meal but like you said time to get back on track and by the progress you show it will be easy
 
Wilpit said:
I literally ate around 20-24 home cooked muffins yesterday and for dinner I had 4 slices of pizza hut with 8 fried chicken wings. ..... It's funny bc I have been weighing 201 points in the morning on average lately and this morning I weighed in at 209.8.
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go big or home, lol. and dont worry, that extra 8 will come out later today as yet another reminder to not cheat that hard. good **** so far though man
 
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