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pre workouts waste of money?

PVL said:
best pre workout for me is 3-4 cups of strong coffee, a can of tuna and a large glass of milk...........

I find these pre workouts are just overhyped and give people an amphetamine high rather than working out naturally and training your brain and body to work hard on its own.........

there isnt any supplement that replaces hard work........
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agree 100%
one caff tab and im g2g
 
PVL said:
yup, plain old coffee for me man.......4-5 cusp during the day and im alright, can usually get in 2 sessions
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Lot of coffee but heys it's all natural.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Lot of coffee but heys it's all natural.
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not gunna lie, i consume alot of caffeine during the day, but i come down right about 9pm which is decent for me.........when i took pre workouts I wouldnt get to sleep until 1am if that........you dont know whats in it ya kno?
 
PVL said:
not gunna lie, i consume alot of caffeine during the day, but i come down right about 9pm which is decent for me.........when i took pre workouts I wouldnt get to sleep until 1am if that........you dont know whats in it ya kno?
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True same thing happens to me.
 
AaronJP1 said:
True same thing happens to me.
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ive learned to keep things simple. all this bologna about eating this at that time and eating this at that time, and taking this to counter act that............

if you keep things basic, workout with free weights, do your cardio on the ground and not in the gym.........you are gunna see results.

too many people want the easy way out for results, when deep down they know they are fooling themselves.

my preworkout in the morning no joke, and shouldnt say this................3 cups strong coffee, 3 tangerines, big ass glass of milk and a cigarette..........yes im country, lol
 
I've been a jack3d guy but I'm gettin tired of crashing after the gym and being worthless the rest of the day. With so many pwo out there it's been difficult to find a new staple
 
PVL said:
ive learned to keep things simple. all this bologna about eating this at that time and eating this at that time, and taking this to counter act that............

if you keep things basic, workout with free weights, do your cardio on the ground and not in the gym.........you are gunna see results.

too many people want the easy way out for results, when deep down they know they are fooling themselves.

my preworkout in the morning no joke, and shouldnt say this................3 cups strong coffee, 3 tangerines, big ass glass of milk and a cigarette..........yes im country, lol
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lmao :thumbsup:
But why a cigarette that's not healthy.
 
prld2gr8ns said:
The fun way to get your nicotine ;)
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U always crack me up...
 
prld2gr8ns said:
The fun way to get your nicotine ;)
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basically.....lol..........that and it keeps me level headed........i tried nicorette gum and that is a waste of time, taste like ****

if dip didnt **** up my smile, i would do that.......used to pack a dip at work almost every night so i didnt kill anyone, lol!

also something people dont know about nicotine.........its a natural anti estrogen and diuretic.......helps keep the bloat off and keeps u lookin tight all day.
 
PVL said:
basically.....lol..........that and it keeps me level headed........i tried nicorette gum and that is a waste of time, taste like ****

if dip didnt **** up my smile, i would do that.......used to pack a dip at work almost every night so i didnt kill anyone, lol!

also something people dont know about nicotine.........its a natural anti estrogen and diuretic.......helps keep the bloat off and keeps u lookin tight all day.
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While u pay some company to black out your lungs and paying them to slowly kill u.... Ur a suicide machine ;)
 
It's all up to you man because everybody responds differently to different pre-workouts. I've had hits and misses with different stuff, If you are feeling your building up a huge tolerance i'd just back off of anything caffeine related for a month or 2. Pre workouts are more like intensity "intensifiers" so if you can still keep the intensity up without them i'd definitely do that BUT if you want to keep trying them just don't stick with 1 brand. Experiment a little to find out what works for you, maybe you need more 1,3 dimethyl, maybe not. Some people are caffeine intolerant and need stronger stimulants but like i said it's up to you. As a supplement store/gym employee i notice lots of guys have huge tolerances to caffeine but once i throw them a pre-workout with 1,3 in it they get huge rushes of energy. It's all subjective!

What pre-workouts have you tried so far?
 
shanetard said:
They sell it at the golds gym we have down here. I felt like I was on crack. Maybe too much of a boost =\
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anytime a stim prevents you from relaxing at night or prevents you from eating enough.........it aint worth it. i just need a lil metabolism boost during the day...........the reason for the coffee sipping.

if i were you, stick with one chemical and see how you respond, because you really dont know which one is doing what when u take pre workouts, there is too much in it to be sure.......and whats not on the label.
 
Your right man. Got something the other day made by Isatori, it's called morph mega drive. Doesn't give you a weird feeling but man will it give you good pumps. It's feels similar to assault
 
shanetard said:
Your right man. Got something the other day made by Isatori, it's called morph mega drive. Doesn't give you a weird feeling but man will it give you good pumps. It's feels similar to assault
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I tried that wasn't impressed
 
PVL said:
try DIM and t2...........
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I'm actually cutting back on PWO.
Man I was popping caffeine pills, a fat burner r 2, 2 scoops of a pre w/o then I stopped for like 2 weeks stone cold. They kinda crack me out a bit. Now if I use one, I'm trying non stims & half doses of the stim ones
 
AaronJP1 said:
I'm actually cutting back on PWO.
Man I was popping caffeine pills, a fat burner r 2, 2 scoops of a pre w/o then I stopped for like 2 weeks stone cold. They kinda crack me out a bit. Now if I use one, I'm trying non stims & half doses of the stim ones
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you gotta be careful man...........some of that stuff is toxic to you liver and kidneys
 
PVL said:
you gotta be careful man...........some of that stuff is toxic to you liver and kidneys
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I don't use much now
 
AaronJP1 said:
I don't use much now
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just stop 4 a few weeks, drink some coffee and get lots of rest............i promise it will help man.

by the end of those 2 weeks, you will feel 100% better, and you can rethink your ideas of pre workout............

do you really need pre workout to workout? you need to have self motivation bro
 
PVL said:
just stop 4 a few weeks, drink some coffee and get lots of rest............i promise it will help man.

by the end of those 2 weeks, you will feel 100% better, and you can rethink your ideas of pre workout............

do you really need pre workout to workout? you need to have self motivation bro
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Right I've been stop. I said I use to lol.
Now I said I use maybe half a scoop ;)
 
fadi said:
Strength went up instantly first two weeks of Craze then went back to normal. I really like Craze though, so far my preferred pre workout. I have a sample of white flood that I will try next week.

But tonight, I'm going to try Smelling Salt. Some powerlifters use it for extra kick in the gym. I will try it tonight to see the impact it makes if any.
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Did the salt work?
 
Personally, I stopped using pre-workouts on a regular basis about a year ago. Once every blue moon I give it a try again only to be disappointed with the result. The best things for me pre-workout is a good, large meal 1 hour before training and IGF & GHRP's of the sort. Good pumps. Sustained energy from the food. Added strength, stamina, yada yada. It works better and no crash. Plus every time I come off IGF-LR3 I put on 5-10lbs that next week. Always a coolness factor to me.

Stimulants other than caffeine = boo. I don't like em and they make me feel like doo doo half the time.
 
AaronJP1 said:
I'm actually cutting back on PWO.
Man I was popping caffeine pills, a fat burner r 2, 2 scoops of a pre w/o then I stopped for like 2 weeks stone cold. They kinda crack me out a bit. Now if I use one, I'm trying non stims & half doses of the stim ones
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I am going the same route, I want to goa month w/o stims to clean things up. My tolerance is way to high, pre w/o has become way to expensive.
 
GTB said:
I am going the same route, I want to goa month w/o stims to clean things up. My tolerance is way to high, pre w/o has become way to expensive.
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yes!!!!!

more and more people need to see what is going on with stims, they arent good for you in large quantities.......

stick with coffee, green tea, vitamin c(helps cortisol and adrenals) and maybe peptides, but I havent dabbled in that just yet, still cautious.....
 
i like to cycle my pre workouts i buy in twos usually one stim heavy and another one not so much and more pump based
 
rochabp said:
i like to cycle my pre workouts i buy in twos usually one stim heavy and another one not so much and more pump based
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Great idea!
 
Peptides actually work in ways u want them. They give good pumps, but also actually contribute in ways that pre-workiuts never do - they create some sort of anabolic activity such as GHRP's that pulse GH. Same for IGF-1. They do more for u AFTER the training than they do during training. But again, pumps r key during training and peptides do this well imo.
 
bigintensions said:
Did the salt work?
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It woke me up, but I need to try it again and see if I get the same effect or it was a fluke. The smell though is very strong so if you try it, crack it open away from your face and slowly bring it in.
 
bigintensions said:
Did the salt work?
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I tried it again this afternoon (6:30pm) and this time I did not use any PWO. It did wake me up after sniffing it. Hard not to because it is so damn strong... but not worth the price.

I really need to find a solid focus supp without the stims, and the pumps... I hate the pumps. I know I'm probably the only one ho does.
 
fadi said:
I tried it again this afternoon (6:30pm) and this time I did not use any PWO. It did wake me up after sniffing it. Hard not to because it is so damn strong... but not worth the price.

I really need to find a solid focus supp without the stims, and the pumps... I hate the pumps. I know I'm probably the only one ho does.
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I tried it today and didn't feel anything. ):
Hate the pumps? That's the best thing about pwo
 
fadi said:
I tried it again this afternoon (6:30pm) and this time I did not use any PWO. It did wake me up after sniffing it. Hard not to because it is so damn strong... but not worth the price.

I really need to find a solid focus supp without the stims, and the pumps... I hate the pumps. I know I'm probably the only one ho does.
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b vitamins and BCAAs before a workout will make you happy you did..........

smelling salts? is that code name for something else up ur nose? lol
 
fadi said:
I tried it again this afternoon (6:30pm) and this time I did not use any PWO. It did wake me up after sniffing it. Hard not to because it is so damn strong... but not worth the price.

I really need to find a solid focus supp without the stims, and the pumps... I hate the pumps. I know I'm probably the only one ho does.
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Have you tried Lit-up or focus xt?

Lit up has stims but it isnt a strong overpowering feeling. Focus XT might be the better choice if you want to avoid stims all together but I would suggest to try Lit-up out as the mental drive it delivers is great IMO
 
JudoJosh said:
Have you tried Lit-up or focus xt?

Lit up has stims but it isnt a strong overpowering feeling. Focus XT might be the better choice if you want to avoid stims all together but I would suggest to try Lit-up out as the mental drive it delivers is great IMO
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I have a sample packet on of Lit Up in the maul, so I will try it. They have stim free version of Focus XT coming out too so I will wait on that one too.
 
PVL said:
b vitamins and BCAAs before a workout will make you happy you did..........

smelling salts? is that code name for something else up ur nose? lol
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Smelling Salt is Amonia. they use it in first aid kits to revive soeone who fainted. CVS carries them and powerlifters take them. Elitefts sells them if not mintaken too.
 
fadi said:
Smelling Salt is Amonia. they use it in first aid kits to revive soeone who fainted. CVS carries them and powerlifters take them. Elitefts sells them if not mintaken too.
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how long does that crap last? is it just used to revive them and not last a whole workout?
 
PVL said:
how long does that crap last? is it just used to revive them and not last a whole workout?
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The idea behind it is that it makes you more alert and can lift heavier. But this is in the powerlifting arena. I would assume they only need it before their max lifts so they only need it for short period. I don't think it lasts long, there was nothing special about it other than waking me up when I sniffed it. Nothing special lifting wise, but I'm not doing singles.
First time I sniffed it, I brought it right up to my nose. That was a mistake! I can see how it would revive someone. My eyes were watery from it.
 
fadi said:
The idea behind it is that it makes you more alert and can lift heavier. But this is in the powerlifting arena. I would assume they only need it before their max lifts so they only need it for short period. I don't think it lasts long, there was nothing special about it other than waking me up when I sniffed it. Nothing special lifting wise, but I'm not doing singles.
First time I sniffed it, I brought it right up to my nose. That was a mistake! I can see how it would revive someone. My eyes were watery from it.
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lmao!!!
 
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