Localized Fat Loss & Transdermal Gel Questions

pnut143 said:
Hey still need eviscerate?? Go under "company promotions" and click supplement auction at the top, look for the thread that talks about "3x bottles of genomyx eviscerate for sale" I'm selling them new and at a discounted price (lol I bought way too many..." and they don't expire till late 2013
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Interested in trades?
 
MattPorter said:
Let me ask you an honest question ---

From your description of your problematic areas, you seem like you might be a hard gainer for muscle and also have a hard time getting lean super easy? I can envision your body type pretty clearly and I wonder if I saw pics how "on" I would be.

Perhaps youd could try prosource.com and seeif they still sell avant labs lipoderm, apply capzaisen HP prior to Lipoderm, wait 10 mins, apply lipoderm. You could add 15 mls of liquid clen into the lipoderm too. (15mls dosed at 100mcg/ml)

I personally liked lipoClen + CapHP in morning, then Primordial's dermatherm at night. Eventually after gutting out the first 2 weeks of capzaisen you epidermis sensitivity will decrease and the burn will be way more tolerant.

I also have people wear a waist trimmer to keep heat in stubborn fatty areas too.....

-Matt
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Hey Matt,

I gain muscle pretty easily...I'm probably 80% meso / 20% endo...I say this b/c I do hold muscle well, and I am fairly lean, but I have a slow metabolism. I only need like 1800-2000 Cal/day to hold my current stats: I am 5'9" 197 lbs....pretty musclular...bench 1RM is 405 lbs, Deadlift 1RM is 500 lbs, Squat 1RM is 500 lbs...etc. etc. I have pretty much peaked for my genetics though...but I am not trying to get bigger stronger...just trying to get leaner. At ~13% right now. I have the upper 2 abs, middle 2 are there but not offically lol, and the lower 2 are hidden :(

Where can I find one of these waist trimmers?? the heating idea sounds interesting and simple...no supps / extra routine needed..just wear something.

I'll also take your advice on the topical, thanks a lot, this is what I was looking for...someone who says "yes I used them and yes they work" and "this is how I did it"

Appreciate it
-Peter
 
By the way, to help others, I looked into these "waste trimmers" and they are called exactly that. You can find them almost anywhere....sporting good stores, Walmart, but NOT Target. The user reviews for these are actually pretty good!

Thanx Matt,
-Peter
 
MrBEEF said:
By the way, to help others, I looked into these "waste trimmers" and they are called exactly that. You can find them almost anywhere....sporting good stores, Walmart, but NOT Target. The user reviews for these are actually pretty good!

Thanx Matt,
-Peter
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No prblem Peter,

It sounds like from your stats -- you do have a nice foundation. Have you used any hormonals to aid in your results as hormones would of course "flip the script" on the "cant lose fat and gain muscle" statement so often thrown around.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
No prblem Peter,

It sounds like from your stats -- you do have a nice foundation. Have you used any hormonals to aid in your results as hormones would of course "flip the script" on the "cant lose fat and gain muscle" statement so often thrown around.

-Matt
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Never took it to hormones/AAS. But I have used Clen/T3 before, but I lose too much muscle...probably more than the avg person. I use ECA+Y once in a while...using it now as we speak. Just before workout. I've even tried the infamous D____N____P . . . not sure if I can mention that or not here. But nowadays, I am trying to not take it any farther than ECA, as the rest are not just sustainable and/or are expensive. Experimented with 11-OXO...didn't seem to do anything for me, and I took it with a ramp up and down, logged, etc. etc.

I'd be willing to give PH's a shot, but not sure if they ca help me, except for preserving muscle on a more aggressive cutting diet/regiment.Honestly, if I cleaned up my diet better at night I'd do a lot better. But I'd probably end up with a 6-pack and still have these love handles WTF...
 
OK so I got one of those waste trimmers, and some warmer clothing...gave the waste trimmer a try...I think I got overheated. I only got through half of my cardio...just lost steam.

I still need to buy the topical...that is tonight.

-Peter
 
MrBEEF said:
Never took it to hormones/AAS. But I have used Clen/T3 before, but I lose too much muscle...probably more than the avg person. I use ECA+Y once in a while...using it now as we speak. Just before workout. I've even tried the infamous D____N____P . . . not sure if I can mention that or not here. But nowadays, I am trying to not take it any farther than ECA, as the rest are not just sustainable and/or are expensive. Experimented with 11-OXO...didn't seem to do anything for me, and I took it with a ramp up and down, logged, etc. etc.

I'd be willing to give PH's a shot, but not sure if they ca help me, except for preserving muscle on a more aggressive cutting diet/regiment.Honestly, if I cleaned up my diet better at night I'd do a lot better. But I'd probably end up with a 6-pack and still have these
love handles WTF...
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Wow -- running clen,t3 DNP I would definitely run HORMONES alongside!

If you did you may have freaked yourself out from the results!

-Matt
 
Where is a good/reliable place to order clen? I placed an order from an online site a month ago and still have not received my order - are there any tried and true sites?
 
with transdermals that include yohimbine hcl do you have to apply it before cardio to be effective? also do carbs negate the effects of transdermal yohimbine like how it does with oral?
 
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