ProHormone cycle

AndyMaytag

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Hello all, I'm guilty of selfishly creating this account for personal information purposes, but i'll do my best to contribute what knowledge I do have. Anyways:

I have limited experience with artificial anabolic substances, I've run methyl-test and ostarine in the past but that is the extent of my experience. I have 6 years of lifting experience and an interest/obsession with suppliments. I just started running a cycle of supertren, superdrol and 1-andro. my dosing goes as follows.

split dose, half in the AM half in the PM. All these pro hormones are clones I believe.

1) Androsta-1-ene-3b-ol,17-one: AKA 1-Andro: 350mg

2) 13-Ethyl-3-Methoxy-Gona-2, 5(10)-Diene-17-One:
AKA SuperTren: 40mg

3) 2a-17a-di-methyl-etiocholan-3-one,17b-ol: AKA Superdrol: 30mg

also taking animal pak origional, 100mg dhea, omega 3-6-9. 1-2 gallons of water a day. I'll keep running those supplements pct as well.

I plan to run this for 30 days, and start redifine's PCT Revolution (white) 4 days before the end of the cycle, and run that for another 30 days. Im not taking any liver support anything other than whats in animal pak and an additional 300mg milk thistle (not enough i'm sure but i'm on a budget). Is this fairly safe and is my PCT sufficient? I respect the knowledge in this forum and thank you in advance for your time!
 
Liv 52 or UDCA for liver support. I wouldn't trust Milk Thistle alone with these, especially superdrol.
 
1. Is this a cycle you put together or is it a combo PH? 30mg of SD is pretty high for a first run with SD and being stacked.
2. Your PCT needs a SERM if you want your test to bounce back quickly. Otherwise you'll have shrunken nuts and lose all gains.
3. Check the Anabolics section of the forum for more feedback and expertise, this is the supplement section.
 
First off you're 20 years old and you want to stack SD/Tren/Andro. You will lose all of your gains while sacrificing the next 4 years of growth because you wanted to gain weight. Your cycle as is right now is an epic failure and I highly suggest you educate yourself before putting your body through a trash compactor.
 
Yuk, starting SD @ 30 mg, and running it for a month...I think maybe you should rethink this cycle. Seems like you have a ton of natural potential and experience to gain first.
 
This stack looks extremely sketchy to me, running Superdrol solo would yield unreal results. However, stacking it might push great results its going jack your natural hormone and test levels for your young lifting career. PCT Revolution White? Your joking right? Superdrol requires a SERM let alone stacking two other potent products. If you dont get a SERM, you are destined for loss of gains and gyno, I will bet on this.
 
Thanks for the input, I'll be bending my budget a little for a serm. Also I apologize for posting in the wrong section.
I'm also aware of the dangers, but I'm a naive kid what can I say. I've put my body through worse in the past and turned out mostly ok. I've ran methyl-test and ostarine but wasn't satisfied with the results, they were decent but i'm going for a strong cycle here. Its been 1 week since I started the cycle, no insane results yet, 5lb weight gain, 10lb increase in bench, 15lb increase in back squat. In the next week to 2 weeks i'm getting blood work done out of curiosity, to check my test, cholesterol and liver enzyme levels. My natural test levels run around 600ml/dl.

Any recommendations on a serm and where to get it? i know about sarm's, but nothing about serm's. Also, all of these are clones of the real deal, how does a superdrol clone compare to actual methasterone in terms of potency and toxicity?
 
Thanks for the input, I'll be bending my budget a little for a serm. Also I apologize for posting in the wrong section.
I'm also aware of the dangers, but I'm a naive kid what can I say. I've put my body through worse in the past and turned out mostly ok. I've ran methyl-test and ostarine but wasn't satisfied with the results, they were decent but i'm going for a strong cycle here. Its been 1 week since I started the cycle, no insane results yet, 5lb weight gain, 10lb increase in bench, 15lb increase in back squat. In the next week to 2 weeks i'm getting blood work done out of curiosity, to check my test, cholesterol and liver enzyme levels. My natural test levels run around 600ml/dl.

Any recommendations on a serm and where to get it? i know about sarm's, but nothing about serm's. Also, all of these are clones of the real deal, how does a superdrol clone compare to actual methasterone in terms of potency and toxicity?

PM me I have SERM for you.
 
I have ran 1-Andro and Superdrol. 1-Andro is considered a pretty solid PH but Superdrol is considered a Type III Anabolic Steroid it is not to be taking lightly. Superdrol clones are very VERY hard on your body and taking all the prerequsites are a must. Being 20 your body natural hormone levels are still not full developed running all three of these could be very detrimental to your future hormone levels as well as your bodily organs. Superdrol at 30mg is so intense on your liver alone, (most people work up to 20mg considereing its strength for 1st time use), but stacking with it is putting your internal organs through hell. A SERM, is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator, OTC PCT's are not SERM's almost all of them are A.I. (aromatase inhibitors). You can get away with OTC PCT's for mild PH's but ANYTIME you use a Superdrol clone you must have a SERM (either clomid or nolvadex), and must take all required amounts of support supplements. Personally, I would never stack anything with Superdrol unless you have ran atleast two successful Superdrol cycles previously, and if I did stack which I still wouldnt I would choose a extremely mild Non-Methyl PH, Like M-LMG, or Propadrol. Do your research please, i always tell my clients i train "lifting is not a race, its a marathon those who do things right will yield greater long term results, with a longer lifting career". These are words to live by.


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"Superdrol For Dummies"

I am 18, I have had 4 years plus lifting experience, I feel Ive reached a plateau and want to use superdrol:
Ive heard this question over and over and would to prevent all those below 21 who want to use superdrol, or any other ph under the age of 21. This is basically inhibiting your bodys natural production of testosterone. Between the ages of 18 thorough 21, males experience the highest test production. If you feel you want to supplement, I would strongly suggest you look for Test boosters, like tribulus and 6oxo. Please note that this has nothing to do with your lack of so called maturity or the feeling that youngsters are careless. This is scientific and numerous studies have been performed in this regard.

I have just got my superdrol , how do I use it?
The safest way to use superdrol is to keep the dosage low. Start with a low dose and work your way up if you can handle the sides. All over the boards you can find people using superdrol up to high doses of 40mg. I would suggest the following cycle.

Week 1 10mg
Week 2 20mg
Week 3 - 20mg

I would personally never recommend over 20mg. 3 week cycles are proven to be safe and effective.

What times of the day do I take superdrol?
SD has a low half life, around 6-10 hours therefore make sure you plan your intake every 6-8 hours.
Different people have different opinions to this question. From what I've seen, the over all consensus is to take the first dose in the morning with an empty stomach with loads of water.
The next with your preworkout meal with good fats like EFA's , Flax and fish oils, peanut butter. Superdrol takes a heavy toll on your lipid profile. A carb and fat rich meal would somehow help a little bit here. This is my opinion, others differ with it. Preworkout superdrol gives awesome pumps during the workout/weight training routine.

Does superdrol require a PCT?
Like every ph on the block SD needs a PCT.

Give me a sample superdrol PCT.

wk1: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 3 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk2: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 4 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk4: 20mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 5 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg
wk3: 10mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 6 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg

Is 6oxo and Rebound XT good enough by itself for a superdrol PCT, most people say it is enough
No! By no means is 6oxo or Rebound standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. You need a SERM! Period!

Nolvadex is therefore ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for an superdrolcycle. Please note its Nolvadex not novedex or nolvedex. Please look for Tamoxifen Citrate.
You can also use Clomid, some users feel this is good as clomid does a lot of good to your lipid profile.

Sample Clomid PCT

Day 1- 300mg
Week 1- 100mg
Week 2- 75mg
Week 3- 50mg

Clomid has worked excellently for me therefore I stop it in 3 weeks. It takes care of any testicular atrophy that may arise on cycle. Please do not use clomid for prolonged periods of time, it is detrimental.
You can look into combo cycles with both Nolva and Clomid in my PCT thread.

If budget permits you can also look into NAC.

Does running milk thistle along side superdrol inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct.

What are other good supplements I can run along side superdrol to combat side effects?
Red Yeast Rice- A fermented rice product, that is our best fighter against negative sides form AAS concerning cardiovascular damage. Comprised of nine different monacolins, which are naturally occurring substances that help regulate cholesterol levels. Along with sterols, and monounsaturated fatty acids, it packs a strong punch.
Dosage : 1.2g ED

COQ10- Although this is abundant in food sources, I feel it prudent to put on here. Not only does it show to help cardiac function, but its also imperative to be used with Red Yeast Rice. Can be used in combination with other cholesterol lowering supplements.

Celery Seed- A powerful anti-oxidant, shown to not only lower blood pressure, but may have cancer fighting properties as well. And there is evidence to show its ability in aiding the liver.

Hawthorne Berry: Also very useful to lower BP and keep it on check. A great on cycle supplement.
Dosage 1000mg ed on cycle.

Policosanol- A blend of fatty alcohols, shows great promise in its use as beneficial to cardiovascular health, to include the maintenance of healthy lipid profiles. There is also some theory to a synergistic affect with EFAs.
Dosage : 20mg 2x a day

Saw Palmetto: The prostrate is one delicate part of your system that you do not want to affect under any circumstances.
SP @ 320mg/day

Primaforce ProLiver or Liv52.
Sesathin
These supplements are very necessary ON cycle as well as in the PCT.

I took superdrol, its 2 weeks up, I still dont see any change. Why?
Well, its not superdrols fault, there is some mistake on your part.
SD will not work if your lipid profile is all haywire.
Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.Roughly around week 2.5 through 4 you should start gains of 1lb/day.
Make sure your carbs and EFAs are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on superdrol.

My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.

I had a very satisfying cycle, my pct made me recover fine, I want to get back into another cycle.
Well,this is something I've seen in many people, the temptation to use m1t and superdrol. Sure it does give good results, but you've gotta understand that you have a life apart from bbing. Imho make sure you give a full two month gap between cycles. After all you've got just one liver to use for a lifetime.



What are the important things I should know about Research Chemicals?

15.2 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate equal 10mg of Tamoxifen (nolvadex)
If a research Liquid manufactuer were unaware of this, and they suspend 10mg of Tamoxifen Citrate in 1 ml of solution and claimed a dosage of 10mg of Tamoxifen/ml then it would be underdosed to the tabs.

Of course if they claimed 10mg of Tamoxifen and added 15.2 grams of Tamoxifen citrate then they would be giving the correct dose of then 10mg of Tamox/ml relative to the tabs.

If they say 10mg of Tamoxifen citrate there not lying about the dose, it's jus not as much as the 10mg tabs of nolvadex.

NOLVADEX_ (tamoxifen citrate) Tablets, a nonsteroidal antiestrogen, are for oral administration. NOLVADEX Tablets are available as:

10 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 15.2 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 10 mg of tamoxifen.

20 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.

So whatz the math?
0.5ml= 7mg tamoxifen
1.0ml=14mg
1.5ml=21mg
2.0ml=28mg
2.5ml=35mg
3.0ml=42mg
3.5ml=49mg
4.0ml=56mg
4.5ml=63mg
5.0ml=70mg

I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.




The superdrol checklist :

Superdrol 10/20/20
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed

PCT:
SERM :Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
AI :R-Xt or 6oxo
Prostrate:Saw Palmetto 325mg

DHEA 200/200/100/100
Fenugreek
Clomid (optional)
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed
 
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