GYNO HELP NEEDED prolactin, prami, letro novla world of worry.

Lol, every week something groundbreaking or special undiscovered ingredient is found haha
OTC stuff is such a big business now, it's just out of control.

Tried & true is the way to go.

It's amazing that there are always more groundbreaking products emerging in the OTC industry then the medical pharmaceutical industry even though it's backed by the highest doctors, professors & government funding, yet it's Muscletech or similar competitor that has the break through lol
 
to say OTC products are not as strong as prescription is not really a valid point given all OTC prohormones and steroids that are on the market. That doesn't translate into concluding that AndoHard will reverse gyno. Their assumption is based on studies that looked at injectable DHT into the glands, and topical DHT gel at 5g/day (that study also stated that topical test may have the same effect). Their white paper talks about reducing fat in the breast area which is possible but that is not the same as reversing gyno.

I think it it possible that it can have positive effect on gyno, but there is no way it can destroy the gland tissue as being claimed by saying it reverse gyno. They do give it the usual marketing spin to generate sales, and they will point to few logs that it helped with their gyno. People with gyno reported positive results with B6, Erase, Triazole, Epi, and few other products but these are not common.

It is worth keeping an eye on to see if somehow they figured how to make it very effective and there is a lot of good user feedback. But to date, Letro is the main proven product available today.
 
fadi said:
to say OTC products are not as strong as prescription is not really a valid point given all OTC prohormones and steroids that are on the market. That doesn't translate into concluding that AndoHard will reverse gyno. Their assumption is based on studies that looked at injectable DHT into the glands, and topical DHT gel at 5g/day (that study also stated that topical test may have the same effect). Their white paper talks about reducing fat in the breast area which is possible but that is not the same as reversing gyno.

I think it it possible that it can have positive effect on gyno, but there is no way it can destroy the gland tissue as being claimed by saying it reverse gyno. They do give it the usual marketing spin to generate sales, and they will point to few logs that it helped with their gyno. People with gyno reported positive results with B6, Erase, Triazole, Epi, and few other products but these are not common.

It is worth keeping an eye on to see if somehow they figured how to make it very effective and there is a lot of good user feedback. But to date, Letro is the main proven product available today.
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Nothing that requires prescription should be OTC, therefore OTC can't compare to prescription medication.
Besides, if their selling pro hormones & steroids over the counter, then something illegal is going on.
Well it would be here in Australia anyway
 
7ten11 said:
Nothing that requires prescription should be OTC, therefore OTC can't compare to prescription medication.
Besides, if their selling pro hormones & steroids over the counter, then something illegal is going on.
Well it would be here in Australia anyway
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7ten,

I understand where your coming from...I do

But nothing is really being pimped or hyped by Eric or myself. Hormones are hormones...plain and simple.

We source out high quality hormones that are synthesized by real chemist, they past stringent quality control testing.

They are used in beta testing studies to prove health effects and effectiveness regarding muscle response, fat loss etc...

The key intermediate hormones 3a and 5a androstanediol increase dramatically when using Androhard and DHT.....just the way it is and DHT is a great defense against gyno.

I believe there is now prescription 4-androstenediol used as form of TRT.....that used to be a otc supplement, now banned and now medical practitioners see the value in that awesome intermediate hormone.

But like you, I too am cautious most ALL supplement claims etc..

-Matt
 
fadi said:
to say OTC products are not as strong as prescription is not really a valid point given all OTC prohormones and steroids that are on the market. That doesn't translate into concluding that AndoHard will reverse gyno. Their assumption is based on studies that looked at injectable DHT into the glands, and topical DHT gel at 5g/day (that study also stated that topical test may have the same effect). Their white paper talks about reducing fat in the breast area which is possible but that is not the same as reversing gyno.

I think it it possible that it can have positive effect on gyno, but there is no way it can destroy the gland tissue as being claimed by saying it reverse gyno. They do give it the usual marketing spin to generate sales, and they will point to few logs that it helped with their gyno. People with gyno reported positive results with B6, Erase, Triazole, Epi, and few other products but these are not common.

It is worth keeping an eye on to see if somehow they figured how to make it very effective and there is a lot of good user feedback. But to date, Letro is the main proven product available today.
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Androhard isnt destroying any glands. Its just preventing the proliferative action of estrogen on the breast tissue, and it can reverse the growth of glandular or (both promoted by estrogen).

fura (katana) will not work as well for gyno reversal as it lacks androgenic activity. You need a true DHT based hormone. (androsterone or epiandrosterone)

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Androhard isnt destroying any glands. Its just preventing the proliferative action of estrogen on the breast tissue, and it can reverse the growth of glandular or (both promoted by estrogen).

fura (katana) will not work as well for gyno reversal as it lacks androgenic activity. You need a true DHT based hormone. (androsterone or epiandrosterone

-Eric
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pstanz- and possibly fura, may bind to the progestin receptor and prevent/reduce gyno that way as well
 
i had puffy nips and lumps that developed a while after my SD cycle

i jumped on a long test e cycle with use of an AI and honstly my main goal was to get DHT levels as high as possible

went 16 weeks and i have been off that cycle for a while now and noticed the lumps are pretty much non-existent, and puffiness maybe down 70% i'd say

i would go with a long cycle of test with good use of an AI, d-plex, stanodrol, or androhard... last 3 will be more optimal for HPTA function

i found proviron to also work, but that is the only thing that ever made me shed like a mother f*cker... so i never advise it. my hair feels back to normal (thick and no shedding) after stopping it tho
 
chocolatemilk said:
i had puffy nips and lumps that developed a while after my SD cycle

i jumped on a long test e cycle with use of an AI and honstly my main goal was to get DHT levels as high as possible

went 16 weeks and i have been off that cycle for a while now and noticed the lumps are pretty much non-existent, and puffiness maybe down 70% i'd say

i would go with a long cycle of test with good use of an AI, d-plex, stanodrol, or androhard... last 3 will be more optimal for HPTA function

i found proviron to also work, but that is the only thing that ever made me shed like a mother f*cker... so i never advise it. my hair feels back to normal (thick and no shedding) after stopping it tho
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That damn superdrol did it to me back 05......delayed onset....happened a week after getting off. I found some amazing topical DHT with an alcohol base like the old androsol/nandrosol products and it worked exceptionally well for minimizing the swollen glands. Never a true abomination of the fibrous tissue, but makes them lay dormant.

-Matt
 
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