Have you seen the 15,000 posts on this already?
Yes I have. That's why I said I have been looking and reading up on the subject. Thanks for the help.
Thanks guys. The two that I narrowed it down to is Hemavol or ultima. Leaning more toward hemavol.
Big Krabbie, (AM isn't letting me reply quote people right now, no clue why! thats why i didn't quote your post" Wasn't aware my box was full! Thanks for the heads up! Anyways, as far as hemavol goes, more isn't always better. Your body will be very sensitive at this point to anything you put in it. I would pop 1 scoop, or 5 caps 30 minutes prior to stage with 20oz water, and a 1-2g sodium. The sodium will REALLY help. Repeat this for the night show. Sorry this is late, I feel terrible man, I didn't see this until now and I know your show is tomorrow. I hope you see this before, but regardless, best of luck, be proud of yourself, and stand tall! Keep me updated on how you do! Mike
Thanks for the info man! Show is in 2 1/2 hrs! I plan on coming in ripped, dry and vascular..will let ya know how it goes.
Hey critical bench,
The show went great! I felt very full and pumped off the hemavol! I posted a few pics in the pics section part of the training forum. What major improvements do you think I need to make? Critique please! I am fine with criticism, I want to get serious into this so any advice is welcomed.
BK
Looking around and reading up on some non stim PWO's. Just wanted to hear y'alls suggestions and what has worked. Just getting tired of the whole stim thing it has been about 4 yrs ( not straight) for PWO with stims and I want to take a diff route now. thanks in advance.
I'd try SNS Agmatine+Hemavol or SNS Agmatine+Clout.
Personally, I had my best strength gains on Clout and bulk SNS Agmatine adds a great pump and endurance to any stack.
It's one of the highest non-stim rated ingredients.
As suggested throughout here. 1 scoop of Hemavol+2 caps of SNS Agmatine make for a killer workout. Helps save on the cost of using 2 scoops of Hemavol.
Give it a look, I'd also try adding SNS Agmatine to a stim product too. I'm currently doing 750mg Agmatine+1 scoop Fierce with superb pumps, endurance and focus(focus from the Fierce).
But like I said, if purely non-stim is the way you want to go. Then look into Clout+ SNS Agmatine or Hemavol+SNS Agmatine.
We only use high quality raws to provide you with products that deliver. Our products speak for themselves.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Day
baldwanus said:hemavol + ultima = most epic stim free stack available.
I'd try SNS Agmatine+Hemavol or SNS Agmatine+Clout.
Personally, I had my best strength gains on Clout and bulk SNS Agmatine adds a great pump and endurance to any stack.
It's one of the highest non-stim rated ingredients.
As suggested throughout here. 1 scoop of Hemavol+2 caps of SNS Agmatine make for a killer workout. Helps save on the cost of using 2 scoops of Hemavol.
Give it a look, I'd also try adding SNS Agmatine to a stim product too. I'm currently doing 750mg Agmatine+1 scoop Fierce with superb pumps, endurance and focus(focus from the Fierce).
But like I said, if purely non-stim is the way you want to go. Then look into Clout+ SNS Agmatine or Hemavol+SNS Agmatine.
We only use high quality raws to provide you with products that deliver. Our products speak for themselves.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Day
criticalbench said:OP, IMO add extra agmatine if planning on using 1 scoop. If you plan to use two, then no need to add extra IMO as you are already getting a full dose.
Mike
I only disagree because extra Agmatine for off days. 750mg in the AM off days. Continous use of Agmatine has great benefits as im sure you know.