RickRock13
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Sourdough said:
To my knowledge they only had a problem with one specific batch, and that was like 3 years ago I think
Dieselbolan V2 bridge to M14add
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To my knowledge they only had a problem with one specific batch, and that was like 3 years ago I think
TheDarkHalf
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Thanks man...It's decline though....could be better!
Yeah man I tried to kick it up a notch. Plus I kind of like it. Instead of just waiting around for my chest to recover I can throw in some other exercises
The RTD cans make life easier
Sorry I'm late to the party
It's all good man. Welcome!
Sounds good man. Actually from all the BW i've seen M14 is probably the methyl that is lightest on the liver. And i've got my support supplements so I would expect it to be fine.
I've also seen Iron Liver Jasen run SD and Anadrol with both at seriously high dosages and live to tell the tale.
I'll be fine but thanks for the concern.
Oh and welcome
Hmm never heard that, hopefully that's not the batch I have lol.
TheDarkHalf
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In other news someone has decided to sell me their entire stash.....and in it is several bottles of 1-T Tren, Mdrol, Pplex, etc....he hasn't made me an offer yet (he has a show on saturday). But we talked again yesterday at the gym and we talked about it some more. I told him as long as the price is reasonable and not astronomical I'd be interested in negotiating a fair price. He's going to get me an itemized list.
Man....if anything I want that 1-T Tren...
Man....if anything I want that 1-T Tren...
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RickRock13
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TheDarkHalf said:
That's a hell of a banned stash right there
Sourdough
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I know and for the most part i hold CEL in higher regard then some even first generation developers as far as taking measures to ensure batch quality and are quick to admit fault when something comes up sub par....
still would like to see real world use is up to par at this time
Sourdough
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shoot man my coveted prize from that stash would be the phera!!!
If your not wanting it and get ahold of extra LMK id be interested in taking it off your hands, one of my all time favorites.
Sourdough
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oh man... youd drool over what I have on hand...
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EBSNW1
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Sorry I'm a bit late, but I'm definitely in for this. Kind of hard for me at the moment balancing uni/work/dissertation and my own cycles that I'm currently buying all the stuff for.
Good idea switching the 2 products though, in my experience the M-LMG in the diesel isn't that wet at all. Interested to see where this takes you...BTW I recovered pretty quickly from my DMZ+M-LMG cycle.
Good idea switching the 2 products though, in my experience the M-LMG in the diesel isn't that wet at all. Interested to see where this takes you...BTW I recovered pretty quickly from my DMZ+M-LMG cycle.
TheDarkHalf
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@.@
sounds like you got a very happy future ahead of you
Haha hell yah. We'll see what he's got! probably another month or so in the making...needless to say i'm holding off on all my online purchasing until then. He could have some $hit that's pre 2004. Who knows.
There is probably much more than that....this guy drops BOMBS in my supplement store. Like 500 a month easy.
I know and for the most part i hold CEL in higher regard then some even first generation developers as far as taking measures to ensure batch quality and are quick to admit fault when something comes up sub par....
still would like to see real world use is up to par at this time
Haha I have 3-4 bottles of phera already and i'm not getting rid of it. That **** is banned for a reason.
oh man... youd drool over what I have on hand...
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Nice. I'll throw up a pic of what my stash looks like later just for kicks.
No worries man...even if you're not posting it will still be nice to have you following. Yeah I figured diesel was going to be a dryer product so I am glad i switched too.
TheDarkHalf
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Day 11
Decided to go to the gym tonight. And I was pressed for time. Got out of work late. Managed to Get this all done in an hour...
Back/Bi's
Superset:
Lat Pulldown - L10, L11, L12, L13 all for 10 reps, L14x8
DB Curl - 30x10, x10, 35x10, x10, x8
Tbar Row - 2p, 2p25, 3p, 3p25, 4p all for 10 reps
Rack Pulls - 135, 185, 225, 275, 315 all for 10 reps, 365x6, x5
HS High Row - 2p, 2p25, 3p, 3p25 all for 8 reps
Superset:
Machine Preacher Curls @ 80 to fail for 3 sets
Pullups to fail for 3 sets
15 mins cardio on incline treadmill
Decided to go to the gym tonight. And I was pressed for time. Got out of work late. Managed to Get this all done in an hour...
Back/Bi's
Superset:
Lat Pulldown - L10, L11, L12, L13 all for 10 reps, L14x8
DB Curl - 30x10, x10, 35x10, x10, x8
Tbar Row - 2p, 2p25, 3p, 3p25, 4p all for 10 reps
Rack Pulls - 135, 185, 225, 275, 315 all for 10 reps, 365x6, x5
HS High Row - 2p, 2p25, 3p, 3p25 all for 8 reps
Superset:
Machine Preacher Curls @ 80 to fail for 3 sets
Pullups to fail for 3 sets
15 mins cardio on incline treadmill
TheDarkHalf
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Here's what I have sealed....
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TheDarkHalf
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Heres what's open....minus the little bottle of osta.
Maybe I should throw something in for a few weeks just to use it up.....
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RickRock13
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You guys both have some nice stashes. Unfortunately I didn't get into the PH game until last year, so I'm missing a lot of the real good stuff like pplex and xtren. If you ever need to get rid of any....ahem 
jbryand101b
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whats going on up in this biznatch, you swole yet fool?
ConcreteConny
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Aaaaah, that EQ-Plex makes me drool. I need MOAR. Only got 8 bottles of the stuff
Sourdough
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Aaaaah, that EQ-Plex makes me drool. I need MOAR. Only got 8 bottles of the stuff
Holy crap bro thats gotta be NicE! so its apartment what now??? lol.
ConcreteConny
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#81 - that's all I can say here :lol:
jbryand101b
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i used to have a nice stash, but i sold off most of it, and used the rest.
jbryand101b
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oh man... youd drool over what I have on hand...
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got you two bottles of trenbolone i see, nice (methoxy tst)
Sourdough
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i thought mega TRN, the supposed Methoxy trn clone was the one that was really straight tren???
was methoxy tst also???
and how substantiated were those findings? its not like the Epi turning into PP type of thing was it?
id like to know what ALRI actually had in their TRN.... as ive run it twice in the past and obviously still have a 3rd, stuff leans me out like crazy and gives me the most wicked strength ever.... at 1.5mg a cap(the full 4.5mg dose gives me wicked acne and oily skin, 3mg was enough for positives but no sides)??? uuuuuuhhhhuuuuuuhhhh....
TheDarkHalf
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You guys both have some nice stashes. Unfortunately I didn't get into the PH game until last year, so I'm missing a lot of the real good stuff like pplex and xtren. If you ever need to get rid of any....ahem
Haha Sorry Rick. At some point I really want to try a 4 week SD/PPlex stack.
Gotta start somewhere man!
Thanks boss
Hard to tell. I've only been on the M14 for a week (even though it's day 12). I felt like I was looking fuller in the gym, but outside of the gym not so much. I definitely had some increased vascularity when I was doing rack pulls last night. Lots of veins popping out of my upper chest and the vein in my right bicep was a lot more apparent.
Aaaaah, that EQ-Plex makes me drool. I need MOAR. Only got 8 bottles of the stuff
Yeah, I still have NO idea of how i'm going to use. Obviously on a bulk cycle and in combination with a methyl. I'd probably use up all 6 of those bottles in one run.
I'll tell you where I live...and i'll be waiting with a shotgun :AR15firing:
Hmmm was the Wizzle (aka wife) cracking the whip? -_-
I would like to know this as well....I could only be so lucky to have some of that old school stuff you have
Sourdough
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TheDarkHalf said:
.....You'll def WANT to use all 6 to have the very best effects, moreso cause of the duration required, not the dose....
...... Hahaha my kinda man, "knock, knock... Whos there? Mossberg.... Mossberg wh!BOOM!.....
Used to have A LOT more but I used 1/1 anabolic xtreme phera plex/prostan bridged to 1.5 bottles mtst and the 3aa powder I had, mixed fresh in a transdermal for my summer cycle.... Had 2 bottles of ax sd and a bottle of designer supplement sd as well but gave em away cause me and sd dont mix well... (Its the ONLY thing that makes me rage, gives horrible back pumps and aggrivates my gyno condition) also gave away my last bottle of m1t pills (wish I kept em instead of liquid) and bottles upon bottles of original epi from ibe (I had an in with them for a while).... Wish I still had it all, lol....
RickRock13
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Any weight change DH?
RickRock13
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Sourdough said:
That....and gold is STILL available unlike pplex!
TheDarkHalf
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I haven't weighed in since tues....going to wait until tuesday morning again. I don't want to obsess over the weight. The scale would be whacked today if I weighed in....had a pasta dinner last night with the girl. I like tuesday as a weigh in day as i feel like i get a more accurate weigh in....24 hours of being back on the regular diet and a cardio session to clear up any BS
Plenty of it available over here
Day 12
Shoulders/Traps
Got off of work early so I decided to go ahead and hit the gym for a 3rd day in a row. This was a tough workout. About midway through the workout I could just feel my body getting tired. Like I should have had a rest day. But I pushed through...my body will adapt.
DB Shoulder Press: 50x10, 55x10, 60x8, 65x8, 70x8, 75x8, 80x8, 85x6
BB Shrugs: 135x10, 185x10, 225x10, 275x8, 315x8, 365x8, 405x6
Superset:
BW Pullups: 5 sets of 8
45lb Plate Raise - 5 sets of 8
DB Shrugs: 110x10, 120x10, 120x8, 130x8
Reverse Fly Machine: 130x10, 145x10, 160x10, 175x8
15 mins incline tread mill
Day 13 - OFF, Day 14 (tomorrow - sun) OFF
I'm working at my supplement store today and tomorrow so I will probably take both days off as I just won't have the time to lift. I also feel like I could use a day or two to recover.
EBSNW1
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Haha, do some of you really think that these compounds will disappear and become unavailable? Where there is demand, there is supply, hence these compounds will always stay around. Just think of hero supplements, they make their own clones, at incredibly cheap prices too.
Sourdough
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EBSNW1 said:
I don't know that you realize all the compounds in question, many of which we showed snap shots of are now banned and illegal to sell or purchase (or just discontinued by the manufacturer to avoid fda attacks and they missed getting banned, that its if they were even really legal in the first place).... I think there its a lot of leeway given for those that purchased before the ban but I'm almost certain its even illegal to possess as a scheduled substance.... Your just not going to get popped for it as long as your not hangin on to kilos worth, your house looks like a meth lab and you attracting attention from the law for other more serious reasons....
N e how what clones do they make?
TheDarkHalf
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It's a UK site....dunno what kind of luck you'll have getting stuff through customs
EBSNW1
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@ Sourdough
I see what you mean, but even if these substances are banned, some labs still produce them and compounds may always resurface under a different name. Furthermore, I know a few shops that still have said compounds available.
That said, I really doubt that any of those compounds will just completely disappear and become unavailable, although some may just become a bit harder to get. To be honest with you, though, some PHs are more difficult to find than "real" AAS, which you can simply order online aswell.
I see what you mean, but even if these substances are banned, some labs still produce them and compounds may always resurface under a different name. Furthermore, I know a few shops that still have said compounds available.
That said, I really doubt that any of those compounds will just completely disappear and become unavailable, although some may just become a bit harder to get. To be honest with you, though, some PHs are more difficult to find than "real" AAS, which you can simply order online aswell.
ConcreteConny
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^Agreed. Where there is demand there is supply. No doubt about it. And for that I am truly happy
Sourdough
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meh i wouldnt even bother... although I bought a few bottles of 4-ad years ago and some ALRI TRN too from over seas cause it was scarce here within a year of release.... I recently found another stateside, 4-ad too... but it was only one bottle and a small amount of powder from a personal sale...
I just dont think its worth the double dollar prices there AND shipping AND even if its legal customs may be retarded and confiscate anyhow.
The only way to buy between countries IMO is to know someone there to use as a resender, much less likely to get popped by customs when its a personal package.
ConcreteConny
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Or ask the supplier to mark the package as a gift with the value of 10$
(Some might b!tch about it though and wont do it )
TheDarkHalf
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Been a few days since an update...I've been busy!!!
Day 15 - Back/Bi
DL - 135, 185, 225, 275, 315 all for 8 reps, 365x4, 405x2
Pullups - 5 sets of 10 at BW
Machine Preacher Curl - 60, 70, 80 all for 8 reps, 90x8, lost count after this...started working in with a friend of mine and we were just killing it
Parallel Bar Pulldowns - L10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 all for 10 reps
Seated Row - L10, 11, 12, 13, 14 all for 10 reps, L15x7 reps
20 mins cardio
Day 16 - Shoulder/Traps
I was dead this workout...zero sleep and did what I could....
DB Laterals - 20, 30, 35, 40x10, 45x8, 45x6
BB Military Press - 95, 135, 155 all for 8 reps, 185x7, 185x6 drop to 135x8
DB Shrug - 110, 120, 120, 130, 130 all for 10 reps each
BB Shrug - 225, 275, 315, 365 all for 8 reps each, 405x5
15min cardio
Day 15 - Back/Bi
DL - 135, 185, 225, 275, 315 all for 8 reps, 365x4, 405x2
Pullups - 5 sets of 10 at BW
Machine Preacher Curl - 60, 70, 80 all for 8 reps, 90x8, lost count after this...started working in with a friend of mine and we were just killing it
Parallel Bar Pulldowns - L10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 all for 10 reps
Seated Row - L10, 11, 12, 13, 14 all for 10 reps, L15x7 reps
20 mins cardio
Day 16 - Shoulder/Traps
I was dead this workout...zero sleep and did what I could....
DB Laterals - 20, 30, 35, 40x10, 45x8, 45x6
BB Military Press - 95, 135, 155 all for 8 reps, 185x7, 185x6 drop to 135x8
DB Shrug - 110, 120, 120, 130, 130 all for 10 reps each
BB Shrug - 225, 275, 315, 365 all for 8 reps each, 405x5
15min cardio
TheDarkHalf
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I weighed in on tuesday and was 223...up from 219 last weigh in
gymrat827
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nice progress so far. I take it the cardio is to make sure the gains are all LBM?
RickRock13
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Sourdough
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TheDarkHalf said:
Dang man... I can't deadlift for crap!
I really never dl'd before this last year and its been slow progress on building up strength for the lift....
Got any tips on how to boost my numbers on this? I can currently work sets of 10 from 135->185-> 200 but I'm spent just doing that and back pumps sometimes get so bad its nearly impossible to do a single other rep let alone the bent over db rows that follow....
Maybe lower reps with more weight? Idk. Just don't want to hurt myself but I feel its such a crucial exercise n i need to get stronger at it... Sorry for so much rambling just saw your numbers n I'm about to go hit back tonight too n now I feel even weaker...
TheDarkHalf
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Actually more so to prevent fat gains from getting out of control. I don't mind putting on a little fat (as i've already lost a notch on my belt)...but I don't want to get so fat that I start to feel disgusting in my own clothes. With the way my body type is....I essentially need to do year round cardio. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Good for your heart and I feel like hitting cardio on off days also helps with recovery (ie helps to circulate your blood which carries all the nutrients to your muscle cells)
Thanks boss man. We'll see what next week brings!
I would just try doing lower reps and tiering the weight as you go along. So something like this maybe 135x10, 185x8, 225x6, 250x6, 275x 4-6, 315 x2-4, 315 or >315 for x1.
I don't really consider my numbers to be that great; they are about average for what gets thrown around in my gym
TheDarkHalf
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Day 17 - Legs
Today was brutal. Ended up working in with a regular whom I'm pretty cool with and see out an about all the time. He's leaner and bigger than me and is much stronger than I in the bench dept. I was warming up when he came in and his lifting partner was out all week so we decided to crush it.
Squats - 135x8, 185x8, 225x8, 275x8, 315x8, x8, x6, x6
We took a break here and did some superset ab work. Superset pullups with rope pull downs. Then superset the ab wheel with something else (it's a long band that hangs from the ceiling and you put your feet into it..not sure of the name lol).
Leg Press - 4pps x8, 5pps x8, 6pps x8, 7pps x8, 8pps x6 drop - to 6pps x8 - drop to 5pps to fail - drop to 4pps to fail
We then wrapped it up with a superset...
Lying Leg Curls - 5 sets of 8 at 100lbs
Leg Extensions - 5 sets of 8 at 120lbs
10 mins incline tread mill to get some of the lactic acid out
Today was brutal. Ended up working in with a regular whom I'm pretty cool with and see out an about all the time. He's leaner and bigger than me and is much stronger than I in the bench dept. I was warming up when he came in and his lifting partner was out all week so we decided to crush it.
Squats - 135x8, 185x8, 225x8, 275x8, 315x8, x8, x6, x6
We took a break here and did some superset ab work. Superset pullups with rope pull downs. Then superset the ab wheel with something else (it's a long band that hangs from the ceiling and you put your feet into it..not sure of the name lol).
Leg Press - 4pps x8, 5pps x8, 6pps x8, 7pps x8, 8pps x6 drop - to 6pps x8 - drop to 5pps to fail - drop to 4pps to fail
We then wrapped it up with a superset...
Lying Leg Curls - 5 sets of 8 at 100lbs
Leg Extensions - 5 sets of 8 at 120lbs
10 mins incline tread mill to get some of the lactic acid out
TheDarkHalf
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Thanks!
but yeah, i've basically come to the realization that no matter what my goals are cardio is always going to be a constant
RickRock13
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TheDarkHalf said:
That's pretty much what I am doing now too. I dropped cardio altogether last winter for bulking and my weight and bodyfat rose dramatically. Now I'm keeping the cardio in there on non-lifting days to keep the fat gain in check so come springtime I don't have another huge cut to make
mattrag
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Man I wish I had access to indoor cardio... unless I do some out side freezing cardio ... ROCKY STYLE!! hah
Cardio is great for keeping the body from thinking it doesnt need to be agile/mobile as well as freakishly strong. hehe. I hate it though...
TheDarkHalf
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Yeah well i'm not planning on cutting for another year or two. Just bulking and anabolics until then
Yeah man it's awesome for recovery purposes and just general well being and cardiovascular health