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Post workout Marijuana use?

It seems like pot is really good post WO supplement, I wonder if anyone uses meth for pre WO. I hear it gives a user bursts of energy, alertness etc.
 
ok, let me first say that I joined the forums just to address this issue. I use to smoke the herb for many years and always thought it was Soooo great for relaxation and eating more. Well, for anyone looking to get bigger or have good test levels should NEVER smoke weed.

Heres why: "Most of the Common testosterone drugs such as cypionate, propionate and enanthate also note breast tissue growth as a common side effect. Other drugs that influence the ESTROGEN receptors are GH (growth hormone), thyroid drugs, Valium and yes, even Marijuana" pg72 Anabolic Primer Ergogenic Enhancement for the Hardcore Bodybuilder Gerard Thorone.

I hope that this clears up SOOOOOO much of the confusion about this topic. Dnt get me wrong, weed should be legal and w.e but it should NOT be part of you stack. If you want to stay small and probably get gyno, go for it. Not to mention, if your on any kind of gear you are wasting your money
 
Stri8ted25 said:
ok, let me first say that I joined the forums just to address this issue. I use to smoke the herb for many years and always thought it was Soooo great for relaxation and eating more. Well, for anyone looking to get bigger or have good test levels should NEVER smoke weed.

Heres why: "Most of the Common testosterone drugs such as cypionate, propionate and enanthate also note breast tissue growth as a common side effect. Other drugs that influence the ESTROGEN receptors are GH (growth hormone), thyroid drugs, Valium and yes, even Marijuana" pg72 Anabolic Primer Ergogenic Enhancement for the Hardcore Bodybuilder Gerard Thorone.

I hope that this clears up SOOOOOO much of the confusion about this topic. Dnt get me wrong, weed should be legal and w.e but it should NOT be part of you stack. If you want to stay small and probably get gyno, go for it. Not to mention, if your on any kind of gear you are wasting your money
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There's negative sides to anything IF you abuse it. Be in control and do not do alotnofnmuscle everything
 
^^^ Im sorry, I fail to understand that last part.
"Be in control and do not do alotnofnmuscle everything"
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Most negative side effects are usually associated with negative things to begin with. Im not trying to sound like a douche I just want to make sure people know that if you smoke, vape, eat, inject weed, you will increase estrogen output in your body.
 
Stri8ted25 said:
ok, let me first say that I joined the forums just to address this issue. I use to smoke the herb for many years and always thought it was Soooo great for relaxation and eating more. Well, for anyone looking to get bigger or have good test levels should NEVER smoke weed.
Heres why: "Most of the Common testosterone drugs such as cypionate, propionate and enanthate also note breast tissue growth as a common side effect. Other drugs that influence the ESTROGEN receptors are GH (growth hormone), thyroid drugs, Valium and yes, even Marijuana" pg72 Anabolic Primer Ergogenic Enhancement for the Hardcore Bodybuilder Gerard Thorone.
I hope that this clears up SOOOOOO much of the confusion about this topic. Dnt get me wrong, weed should be legal and w.e but it should NOT be part of you stack. If you want to stay small and probably get gyno, go for it. Not to mention, if your on any kind of gear you are wasting your money
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i dont think ur gunna talk anyone out of smoking weed. if we smoke already, we most likely dont give a fuhk about the negatives u have to share :)
 
easy big guy. :) Im not trying to get people to stop smoking weed. I love the herb. I just choose not to smoke anymore because I like the extra energy and mass gains. Toke up bro....This thread is just about the SCIENCE behind smoking weed and how it affects the body, not the politics.
 
Stri8ted25 said:
easy big guy. :) Im not trying to get people to stop smoking weed. I love the herb. I just choose not to smoke anymore because I like the extra energy and mass gains. Toke up bro....This thread is just about the SCIENCE behind smoking weed and how it affects the body, not the politics.
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I've quit from time to time, and i also enjoy the extra energy throughout the day, but the benefits are too great for me. It's nice when unwinding from the gym. But I mostly like it for helping me sleep. People underestimate how important sleep is to building muscle. I've havent stopped making mass gains, and i've been smoking weed longer than ive been lifting weights.
 
Stri8ted25 said:
^^^ Im sorry, I fail to understand that last part. Most negative side effects are usually associated with negative things to begin with. Im not trying to sound like a douche I just want to make sure people know that if you smoke, vape, eat, inject weed, you will increase estrogen output in your body.
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Lmfao sorry I was typing on my iPhone
 
n87 said:
It seems like pot is really good post WO supplement, I wonder if anyone uses meth for pre WO. I hear it gives a user bursts of energy, alertness etc.
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Well no, people use ephedrine not psuedo-ephedrine(meth) preworkout. Granted, meth is highly concentrated psuedo ephedrine. And thc is NOT CANCEROUS. Thats the government putting out false info. Seriously try to find cases of cancer caused by mj alone. There are none. In fact some cannabiniods in marijuana prevent some cancers and also against alzhiemers. Hence MEDICAL marijuana being perscribed to cancer patients.
 
Stri8ted25 said:
^^^ Im sorry, I fail to understand that last part. Most negative side effects are usually associated with negative things to begin with. Im not trying to sound like a douche I just want to make sure people know that if you smoke, vape, eat, inject weed, you will increase estrogen output in your body.
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Inject weed? Im a pothead not a heroine addict. And so you assume that the text u quoted is 100% correct? Seriously lil wayne smokes massive amounts of weed and hes fuggin huge
 
I smoke 1 blunt w/ my friend @ night time; im not the type to smoke a couple of days like a pot head. I enjoy 1 and its a small dime nothing crazy. But I can go days w/out smoking I wouldn't say I'm addicted. I enjoy it but plain and simple too much of anything is bad for the human body. Keep that in check when smoking weed and you will be fine
 
Inject weed? Im a pothead not a heroine addict. And so you assume that the text u quoted is 100% correct? Seriously lil wayne smokes massive amounts of weed and hes fuggin huge
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I was being silly, just saying that THC triggers increased estrogen release. I hope no one is injecting it.lol If anyone in here knows anything about Gerard Thorne and his Numerous books on Bodybuilding, then that should be credible enough. That is why I quoted him, b/c he is a very credible source. O and lil wayne is 5'5", 140lbs not exactly my idol when I comes to bodybuilding. All the people trying to justify weed smoking as part of their work out regimin is actually very funny. And MOST of those cancer patients be put on medical herb are Terminal (going to die.lol) cancer patients.

By the way, I USE to smoke blunts daily (w friends) then after about two years i started getting a lil brown/black flem I would cough up after hard cardio. Then went to vaping and eventually stopped all together. You should probably check out what those blunt papers are made of, b/c I can tell you for 100% truth they are cancerous. lol
 
I looked it up, (google: how much does lil wayne weigh) it says between 135-145. I could look like R.Coleman if someone takes my pic from the floor.lol Lighting and camera angles are VERY deceiving.
 
Checked back on this thread after a while and just want to say totally impressed with everyone's different opinions and idea's about the efectivness of weed and weightlifting. I personally have cut out weed from my life, I can't afford to slow my mind down.
 
it increases dopamine?

idk maybe that will help some people justify smoking bud.
 
kingdong said:
It used to be essential for helping me get food down when 1,3dimeth would make me too sick to eat. Now Im done with 1,3 dimeth.
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Yes, good point. I was thinking as well... If one were to use stims and follow an IF type diet, you could pack a small bowl with some good dro and pack down some good, quality calories within an 8 hour time window with the munchies.
 
Stri8ted25 said:
I was being silly, just saying that THC triggers increased estrogen release. I hope no one is injecting it.lol If anyone in here knows anything about Gerard Thorne and his Numerous books on Bodybuilding, then that should be credible enough. That is why I quoted him, b/c he is a very credible source. O and lil wayne is 5'5", 140lbs not exactly my idol when I comes to bodybuilding. All the people trying to justify weed smoking as part of their work out regimin is actually very funny. And MOST of those cancer patients be put on medical herb are Terminal (going to die.lol) cancer patients.

By the way, I USE to smoke blunts daily (w friends) then after about two years i started getting a lil brown/black flem I would cough up after hard cardio. Then went to vaping and eventually stopped all together. You should probably check out what those blunt papers are made of, b/c I can tell you for 100% truth they are cancerous. lol
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I hope your health remains well, brother. I'm sure you'll be ok now though after stopping the blunts. I prefer vaping or using a bubbler. ;)
 
Im reduced to using a lightbulb vape cuz im poor. Plus my guy isn't answering his phone.. Looks like I might have to quit early.. Dammit..
 
For the time being, the arguments for and against are all null and void considering every bit of research done is entirely conflicting. It has so far never been consistently proven that it has an effect or does not. Longer term studies do tend to lean towards it having NO effect on hormone levels, both testosterone and estrogen, however, as said before this has yet to be consistently demonstrated in subsequent studies.

Personally, I'm of the BELIEF that it is better for you on a conditional basis (Ex. Bulking) as it stimulates hunger, helps you relax, and helps to put you to sleep. All three of those things being key components in enabling growth as any bodybuilder should know.

Just because some news agency took a result out of context from ONE study that estrogen is raised and testosterone lowered, then suddenly that must be the truth. The same is true for the opposite, if a source said it increased testosterone and lowered estrogen and that was reported, suddenly everyone would be scouring for it like the next big muscle building supplement. All I'm trying to get across here is for people to do what they believe works for them. Listen to your body, not Fox News....LoL. Call it "broscience" if you want, I'll smoke and be happy.

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Cliff Notes: Chronic marijuana use showed no significant effect on hormone concentrations in either men or women.

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Cliff Notes: Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.

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Cliff Notes: A suppressive effect is seen on reproductive hormones, prolactin, growth hormone, and the thyroid axis, while the HPA axis is activated. Many of the responses observed, however, are lost with chronic administration, which is likely due to the development of tolerance. Studies in humans have had inconsistent resukts which may reflect differences in study design, stage in menstrual cycle, or the development in tolerance. Long-term effects on the various endocrine systems have not been clearly demonstrated, and clinical consequences, if present, are likely to be subtle.
 
Yea, i guess thats why all the IFBB's are using it as part of their supplementation. The biggest bulking secret in bodybuliding....WEED.lol
 
Haha really they are??? Oh snap I'm gonna sell this as a alternative to superdrol :P
 
gravity bong anyone?

i love bumping some cypress hill when i blaze

btw platinum bubba is g2g

or when im gone i turn on TV mute it, turn on stereo full blast and it trips u out cus music and tv almost synchronize. its weird
 
I would totez blaze post workout so i could grub, but i hate the feeling of being high :/
 
I actually like smoking before my workouts. Not a lot....but just a few hit to catch a decent buzz. I always feel more pumped, tighter, and have a better mind/muscle connection
 
Really depends on SO many factors, for me personally: cardio, there's almost zero chance after i chief, but dependent on my stress, rest, and hunger levels, i think medicinal marijuana can be beneficial either pre- or post- workout...in before haters (or am I too late?)...moderation on maryjane FTW
 
well shoot i tried to PM you but my post count was too low ha...dont let that fool you as to a marker of my knowledge; i read up on bodybuilding/nutrition on the daily; I'm a student of the "game"/lifestyle
 
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I actually like smoking before my workouts. Not a lot....but just a few hit to catch a decent buzz. I always feel more pumped, tighter, and have a better mind/muscle connection
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Doesn't it make your muscles relax??? Why whould u want a relaxed muscle when your working out? sounds like a good combo for injuring urself.
 
Stri8ted25 said:
Doesn't it make your muscles relax??? Why whould u want a relaxed muscle when your working out? sounds like a good combo for injuring urself.
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Nah man. I ALWAYS have a better pump when I work out stoned
 
I take a hit or two before a workout. A hit or two after. I love working out high.

But I have been getting stronger and bigger and weed ain't slowing me down. Probably the steroids :lol:
 
Stri8ted25 said:
Yea, i guess thats why all the IFBB's are using it as part of their supplementation. The biggest bulking secret in bodybuliding....WEED.lol
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Arnolds been seen doing it but we dont know how often. He did lower the penalty for being caught with it in Cali, so I dont think hes to against it.
 
granola weed protein bars.. fing so good.. I would sale them but the gov say no to that!!!!
 
Sisnce this thread was about POST WORKOUT marijuana use, and we moved on from that a long time ago, might I reccomend my favorate thread?

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I love how its old as dirt and just wont die. Apparently health conscious people love this stuff.
 
kingdong said:
Sisnce this thread was about POST WORKOUT marijuana use, and we moved on from that a long time ago, might I reccomend my favorate thread?

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I love how its old as dirt and just wont die. Apparently health conscious people love this stuff.
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The more the "mary"er hahahahahahaha

i'm stoned
 
Interestingly enough, if you can obtain some kava root and drink that it provides many of the relaxation and sleep benefits that weed does-without the risk of addiction if you do it long term and its not illeagle (except in Australia lol). Funnily enugh where i live you are allowed to grow marjuana for personal use.
 
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tats me blazed
 
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