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Need 2 Slin on a Cut=Great.. but what about a Bulk?

had the chance to read a few things.it would appear adding in Gh/Igf1 type supplement along with maybe hcgenerate and your favorite ph/ds for max bulk gains.solo its a great leaning bulk agent and great slimming agent and an even more potent slimming agent by adding in some cinnamon extract /chromium and your favorite fat burner.I've been more interested in using this as a bulking agent and have been given alot of info to work with. I have more to add but have alot of reading to do.
 
mich29 said:
had the chance to read a few things.it would appear adding in Gh/Igf1 type supplement along with maybe hcgenerate and your favorite ph/ds for max bulk gains.solo its a great leaning bulk agent and great slimming agent and an even more potent slimming agent by adding in some cinnamon extract /chromium and your favorite fat burner.I've been more interested in using this as a bulking agent and have been given alot of info to work with. I have more to add but have alot of reading to do.
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I would like to see some of this info when you come across it. I know Need2slin is very versatile and helps a lot whether bulking, cutting, or recomping. ;)
 
If you're dead set on n2slin then I would say 2 with ur first bite of food, thst way it womt block/slow ALL your absorption...
If you're willing to try a diff product, I would highly Recommend glycobol by AI bc if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't contain gynnema and really helps with a lean bulk due to the vanadyl
 
chedapalooza said:
If you're dead set on n2slin then I would say 2 with ur first bite of food, thst way it womt block/slow ALL your absorption...
If you're willing to try a diff product, I would highly Recommend glycobol by AI bc if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't contain gynnema and really helps with a lean bulk due to the vanadyl
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But it contains berberine which is shown to block protein synthesis and increase protein breakdown. That doesn't sound favorable for a bulk, unless you're trying to gain fat.
 
I am not sold on white kidney extract yet. As for bebberine there is a reason why RussianStar was not found of it...
All I know is that you really cannot go wrong with 2-4 caps of N2Slin prior to a high carb meal during a bulking phase.
 
andrew732 said:
All I know is that you really cannot go wrong with 2-4 caps of N2Slin prior to a high carb meal during a bulking phase.
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Since Need2Slin contains Synephrine HCI, I wonder if it is a good idea to take it on a bulk. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks.
 
John33 said:
Since Need2Slin contains Synephrine HCI, I wonder if it is a good idea to take it on a bulk. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks.
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In order for synepherine hcl to become counter productive on a bulk it would have to be taken in high amounts along caffeine right before workout, so its still fine to be included in the formula even if one is bulking.
 
andrew732 said:
I am not sold on white kidney extract yet. As for bebberine there is a reason why RussianStar was not found of it...
All I know is that you really cannot go wrong with 2-4 caps of N2Slin prior to a high carb meal during a bulking phase.
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^ THIS

Also, I always recommend Garcinia Cambogia :) (aka HCA, cap the raw powder)
 
Milas said:
But it contains berberine which is shown to block protein synthesis and increase protein breakdown. That doesn't sound favorable for a bulk, unless you're trying to gain fat.
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Berberine as in phellodendren?? Phellodendren is in AP. A staple product of mine and I definitely do not have fat gains/changes in bf... I've used AP as a staple for over a year now and nothing but praise... What's everyone else think about it??

This is not to say that n2s may be better. I'm willing tontry it and am going to soon.
 
chedapalooza said:
Ehite kidney is legit.. Phase2/carb control pills are a god send.. Cheaters by bsn is great too for calorie control
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John33 said:
It contains chitosan, does that stuff really work? I have heard that it does not.
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Haven't felt or seen either work for anything. If they did, there'd be a lot less fat chicks out there, and Phase 2 would be sold out!
 
Milas said:
Haven't felt or seen either work for anything. If they did, there'd be a lot less fat chicks out there, and Phase 2 would be sold out!
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Speaking of skinny chicks vs. voluptuous chicks, never mind, it is all about personal preference, but Cameron Diaz vs. Kim Kardashian, who would you rather?
 
John33 said:
Speaking of skinny chicks vs. voluptuous chicks, never mind, it is all about personal preference, but Cameron Diaz vs. Kim Kardashian, who would you rather?
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Could I have both? :D

I think there's more cachet with Kim, and when she's dolled up looks better, but overall Cameron would be more fun to hang out with and more fun. I'd go Kim, just for the hell of it (plus more likely I'd get a video out of it)!
 
John33 said:
Oh, man, that would be a great fat loss stack :D
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That's one way to get the cardio in that I wouldn't mind! Two-a-days? SURE!
 
RickRock13 said:
I would like to see some of this info when you come across it. I know Need2slin is very versatile and helps a lot whether bulking, cutting, or recomping. ;)
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theres a lot of great discussion info out there its just having the time to read through it all to ;)

andrew732 said:
I am not sold on white kidney extract yet. As for bebberine there is a reason why RussianStar was not found of it...
All I know is that you really cannot go wrong with 2-4 caps of N2Slin prior to a high carb meal during a bulking phase.
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I briefly remember RS and the bebberine thing.I agree 2 to 4 and your set.

andrew732 said:
In order for synepherine hcl to become counter productive on a bulk it would have to be taken in high amounts along caffeine right before workout, so its still fine to be included in the formula even if one is bulking.
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very very well said here

chedapalooza said:
Berberine as in phellodendren?? Phellodendren is in AP. A staple product of mine and I definitely do not have fat gains/changes in bf... I've used AP as a staple for over a year now and nothing but praise... What's everyone else think about it??

This is not to say that n2s may be better. I'm willing tontry it and am going to soon.
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I'll def be looking out for your review of Need 2 Slin.

John33 said:
Speaking of skinny chicks vs. voluptuous chicks, never mind, it is all about personal preference, but Cameron Diaz vs. Kim Kardashian, who would you rather?
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voluptuous chicks all the way ;)
 
Back to Need2Slin. Do you guys offer samples of Need2Slin? I have heard many good thing about, but have not had a chance to try it.
 
food for thought here

J Cardiovasc Pharmacol. 2004 Mar;43(3):471-6.

Development of insulin resistance by nitrate tolerance in conscious rabbits.

Clinical evidence has been raised to suggest that transdermal nitroglycerin increases the sensitivity of peripheral tissues to the hypoglycemic effect of insulin. In this study we determined whether development of tolerance to the hypotensive effect of nitroglycerin also resulted in tolerance to the insulin-sensitizing effect in rabbits. Intravenous glucose disposal and hyperinsulinemic euglycemic glucose clamp studies were performed on naive and hemodynamic nitrate tolerant conscious New Zealand white rabbits. These rabbits were exposed to continuous "patch on" with nitroglycerin (0.07 mg/kg/h) or placebo patches over 7 days. Nitroglycerin treatment of 7 days produced a lack of hypotensive response to a single intravenous bolus of 30 microg/kg nitroglycerin, which caused a significant decrease in mean arterial blood pressure in control rabbits. A six-hour exposure to transdermal nitroglycerin significantly increased insulin sensitivity determined by hyperinsulinemic (100 microU/ml) euglycemic (5.5 mmol/l) glucose clamping as compared with that seen in rabbits treated with placebo patches. A significant decrease in insulin sensitivity was observed in the nitroglycerin patch-treated animals both in the presence and after the removal of the last patch when the patches were applied over 7 days.

We conclude that acutely nitrate patches improve insulin sensitivity whereas a 7-day chronic treatment schedule that results in hemodynamic nitrate tolerance also produces insulin resistance.


nitrates can improve insulin sensitivity
 
mich29 said:
food for thought here

J Cardiovasc Pharmacol. 2004 Mar;43(3):471-6.

Development of insulin resistance by nitrate tolerance in conscious rabbits.

Clinical evidence has been raised to suggest that transdermal nitroglycerin increases the sensitivity of peripheral tissues to the hypoglycemic effect of insulin. In this study we determined whether development of tolerance to the hypotensive effect of nitroglycerin also resulted in tolerance to the insulin-sensitizing effect in rabbits. Intravenous glucose disposal and hyperinsulinemic euglycemic glucose clamp studies were performed on naive and hemodynamic nitrate tolerant conscious New Zealand white rabbits. These rabbits were exposed to continuous "patch on" with nitroglycerin (0.07 mg/kg/h) or placebo patches over 7 days. Nitroglycerin treatment of 7 days produced a lack of hypotensive response to a single intravenous bolus of 30 microg/kg nitroglycerin, which caused a significant decrease in mean arterial blood pressure in control rabbits. A six-hour exposure to transdermal nitroglycerin significantly increased insulin sensitivity determined by hyperinsulinemic (100 microU/ml) euglycemic (5.5 mmol/l) glucose clamping as compared with that seen in rabbits treated with placebo patches. A significant decrease in insulin sensitivity was observed in the nitroglycerin patch-treated animals both in the presence and after the removal of the last patch when the patches were applied over 7 days.

We conclude that acutely nitrate patches improve insulin sensitivity whereas a 7-day chronic treatment schedule that results in hemodynamic nitrate tolerance also produces insulin resistance.


nitrates can improve insulin sensitivity
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Good info to know :goodpost:
 
Would something like the AgeForce pre/post workout patches work for something like that?
 
I had my first-ever workout this week, arm day, on BCAA Nitrate, Arginine Nitrate, and Creatine Nitrate. The pump was so painful, literally so excruciating, that I don't know if I can say I liked it, or hated it. Of course, I supplemented with over a gram Vitamin-C, took in several bottles of water, anti-oxidant blends, and added in Bridge, GEAR, and EcdyMorph.
 
PS: I heard that AnaBeta had some profoundly powerful insulinogenic properties... can someone shed a light on this for me? I am making this same post in two other threads, so excuse the redundancy, only trying to get a rich mixture of opinion. I am thinking of stacking with Racompadrol and Need 2 Slin during my off-cycle/season through the winter as I increase calories to maintain newly realized mass. Thanks! :)
 
Outstanding said:
PS: I heard that AnaBeta had some profoundly powerful insulinogenic properties... can someone shed a light on this for me? I am making this same post in two other threads, so excuse the redundancy, only trying to get a rich mixture of opinion. I am thinking of stacking with Racompadrol and Need 2 Slin during my off-cycle/season through the winter as I increase calories to maintain newly realized mass. Thanks! :)
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I believe the mix of these would make for one hell of a stack I pondered this the other day actually so def a good call on this.

Milas said:
Would something like the AgeForce pre/post workout patches work for something like that?
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great question I've been waiting for logs for age's patches if they pan out I think they would be a great stack option along with Need 2 slin

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I had my first-ever workout this week, arm day, on BCAA Nitrate, Arginine Nitrate, and Creatine Nitrate. The pump was so painful, literally so excruciating, that I don't know if I can say I liked it, or hated it. Of course, I supplemented with over a gram Vitamin-C, took in several bottles of water, anti-oxidant blends, and added in Bridge, GEAR, and EcdyMorph.
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sounds like a hell of a stack I don't know if I'd push all those nirates that hard off the bat I'd build up to them slowly to see what the toleration would be but damn that sounds likea hell of a stack.
 
Outstanding said:
PS: I heard that AnaBeta had some profoundly powerful insulinogenic properties... can someone shed a light on this for me? I am making this same post in two other threads, so excuse the redundancy, only trying to get a rich mixture of opinion. I am thinking of stacking with Racompadrol and Need 2 Slin during my off-cycle/season through the winter as I increase calories to maintain newly realized mass. Thanks! :)
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I will find out in 2 weeks when I have Need2slin stacked with AnaBeta for a couple months :D

Ohhhh...and also some DAA and Bridge in there as well :)
 
RickRock13 said:
I will find out in 2 weeks when I have Need2slin stacked with AnaBeta for a couple months :D

Ohhhh...and also some DAA and Bridge in there as well :)
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Keep us updated! I am always trying to shove glycogen into those muscle cells! Nothing, to date, has worked as well as the current stack I'm on though, the IGF-1-LR3 has been simply amazing. Almost jaw dropping really.
 
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Keep us updated! I am always trying to shove glycogen into those muscle cells! Nothing, to date, has worked as well as the current stack I'm on though, the IGF-1-LR3 has been simply amazing. Almost jaw dropping really.
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Will do bro ;)

Sounds like your stack is pretty sweet!
 
Outstanding said:
Keep us updated! I am always trying to shove glycogen into those muscle cells! Nothing, to date, has worked as well as the current stack I'm on though, the IGF-1-LR3 has been simply amazing. Almost jaw dropping really.
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igf and need 2 slin sounds like a solid choice
 
mich29 said:
igf and need 2 slin sounds like a solid choice
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Probably would work well with GHRP/GHRH peptides as well, clearing glucose and insulin before dosing.
 
Milas said:
Probably would work well with GHRP/GHRH peptides as well, clearing glucose and insulin before dosing.
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for 3 months or so i was doing something similar PWO

200mcg GHRP2
100mcg GRF 1-29
2 N2Slin
10g BCAAs
2.5g Glutamine
2.5g Beta Alanine
2.5g Citrulline Malate
 
I love this product myself.
was nice wheni used one rezolution and 4 need2slin every day in spring. nice for energy and trimming up :-)
 
Blergs said:
I love this product myself.
was nice wheni used one rezolution and 4 need2slin every day in spring. nice for energy and trimming up :-)
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That would be a good stack I bet..
 
mich29 said:
looks like the age patches are picking up steam.

on another note what are your thoughts on stacking Need 2 Slin and RS Transaderm???
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That sounds like another great combo to me! I know the combination of Formastanozol and Need2slin is great! I've been doing that through PCT and has definitely helped leaning.
 
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