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How Can Letro be the ONLY thing that Works for me???

Ace5high

Ace5high

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Frankly Im so tired of getting all puffy and developing Gyno symptoms on the most basic of cycles!! Every cycle Ive run Ive started to develop Gyno...

I havent run a cycle in some time so I thought Id be safe on this one. Im only on 350mg/week of Prop 3 weeks in and again Gyno starting to show up, along with bloat, bloat bloat... My hands are so tight I can barley close them!

I started off with L-dex .5mg ED and soon upped to 1.5mg ED. Determinded that the crappy research stuff I had wasnt any good. I ordered some Aromasin from a place I KNOW is Good Chems and have been runing 25mg ED for almost a week now and Im still puffy as hell and nips still hurting, Ive even tried adding in 40mg daily of Novla for good measure and when that didnt make any differance I upped the aromasin to 40mg per day for the last 24 hours... Nothing seems to do the trick for me except Letro, everytime this BS happens I end up going back on the letro for about 2 months to straighten out the Gyno and Bloat... SO WTF gives? Any Idea why these large doses of AI's seem to be basically ineffective on me??
 
Im not sure what blast and cruise has to do with the situation, but at any rate, whats ur bf percentage?Gyno can also, though not as common be prolactin induced as well. If u decide to go get some bloodwork done id put that on the list...
 
have you tried not running an aromatizable compound on cycle, as well as running a serm like clomid while using test to prevent estrogen from binding to the er sites in the body (nolva is breast tissue specific, but i heard you mention puffyness other places too, so thats why i went clomid)

maybe test isn't for you, you know there are other compounds.

oh, i would also say to run some winstrol along side it. about 50mg e/d
 
Have you used Aromasin from other sources before? or was this the first time? I use aromasin at 12.5mgs eod and have for the past 5 cycles all bloodwork I have had done my e2 has been good. I am thinking as someone else mentioned that maybe your prolactin is high or your estro was very high and the Aromasin you recieved was underdosed. Aromasin should do the trick. Letro is hard on the lipids.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
Im not sure what blast and cruise has to do with the situation, but at any rate, whats ur bf percentage?Gyno can also, though not as common be prolactin induced as well. If u decide to go get some bloodwork done id put that on the list...
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I didn't say anything about blast N Cruise? BF is about 12% maybe less. BLood work be done in next week or so.
 
jbryand101b said:
have you tried not running an aromatizable compound on cycle, as well as running a serm like clomid while using test to prevent estrogen from binding to the er sites in the body (nolva is breast tissue specific, but i heard you mention puffyness other places too, so thats why i went clomid)

maybe test isn't for you, you know there are other compounds.

oh, i would also say to run some winstrol along side it. about 50mg e/d
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No haven't run aromatizable or clomid while "on" I hate clomid sides and save for PCT only, Ive used Nolva is all while on. Im actually gonna add some Masteron soon see if that helps any.
 
TGB1987 said:
Have you used Aromasin from other sources before? or was this the first time? I use aromasin at 12.5mgs eod and have for the past 5 cycles all bloodwork I have had done my e2 has been good. I am thinking as someone else mentioned that maybe your prolactin is high or your estro was very high and the Aromasin you recieved was underdosed. Aromasin should do the trick. Letro is hard on the lipids.
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Ive used L-dex, Aromasin, Letro from at least two places each. Letro has worked every time no matter what, others have always been questionable if working. In any event I know the aromasin Im using now is solid good quality stuff, very reputable place and have made several orders b4 with never a complaint but Thats why im running 50mg even if its under doses 50mg should do something... I dont feel like its gotten any worse since I started at 50mg dose plus 40mg Nolva but im still sore and have small lump forming... I hate using letro and always saved it for emergency only... But when Im running high doses of everything else and gyno starts going from bad to worse I know its either letro or pay for surgery...

Im getting the "female hormone" blood test done with Lipid profile, not sure if this includes prolactin or not...
 
I'm similar. tend to not react well to a-dex even at higher doses. letro keeps the gyno/bloat down, but i've found using masteron alongside test is awesome. I hardly need an AI when using mast. If your not reacting to all that stuff tho it could be a prolactin issue. I've also encountered that while using peptides and test, and no obscene amount of AI's/SeRMs did anything.
 
Ace5high said:
No haven't run aromatizable or clomid while "on" I hate clomid sides and save for PCT only, Ive used Nolva is all while on. Im actually gonna add some Masteron soon see if that helps any.
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do you mean you havn't run a non aromatizable compound for a cycle. im talking just non aromatizable compounds, no dbol, no test, no bold etc.

i bet if you added winstrol at 50mg e/d it would help out tremendously.
 
Ace5high said:
I didn't say anything about blast N Cruise? BF is about 12% maybe less. BLood work be done in next week or so.
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nah that comment wasn't for you, knowbull commented in his post something about if you have ever heard of blast and cruise before, sneaky guy edited it out now, but i was commenting to him that I don't know what blasting and cruising has to do with your situation.

like jb said, winny could def help. There are other options besides test that aren't as aromatizing.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
nah that comment wasn't for you, knowbull commented in his post something about if you have ever heard of blast and cruise before, sneaky guy edited it out now, but i was commenting to him that I don't know what blasting and cruising has to do with your situation.

like jb said, winny could def help. There are other options besides test that aren't as aromatizing.
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OIC, I wondered...

JB - No I havn't run a non aromatizable compound for a cycle. Ive always been taught that Test is the base for every cycle no exceptions... Also, I havent tried the winny but am going to add some masteron, hopefully that should help.
 
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