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Starting IGF-2, Free Test and Carnage

OCycle

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I'm a triathlete looking for some extra muscle gains and increased endurance. Today, I'm starting IGF-2, Free Test and Carnage. I've taken the Carnage before with great results.

I'm 5'10"...170lbs. I do 3 swims, 3 bikes and 4 runs a week. Also 2 Crossfit sessions a week as well to keep some muscle mass and core strength. I plan to take (4) IGF-2, (4) Free Test and (4) Carnage daily. I plan to take this stack for at least 30 days...probably 60 days.

Is there anything I should keep in mind when taking this stuff? What should I do after this cycle? I'm sure someone will suggest adding more to this stack, but I think I'm swallowing too many pills as it is (for me).

Thank in advance...
 
OCycle said:
I'm a triathlete looking for some extra muscle gains and increased endurance. Today, I'm starting IGF-2, Free Test and Carnage. I've taken the Carnage before with great results.

I'm 5'10"...170lbs. I do 3 swims, 3 bikes and 4 runs a week. Also 2 Crossfit sessions a week as well to keep some muscle mass and core strength. I plan to take (4) IGF-2, (4) Free Test and (4) Carnage daily. I plan to take this stack for at least 30 days...probably 60 days.

Is there anything I should keep in mind when taking this stuff? What should I do after this cycle? I'm sure someone will suggest adding more to this stack, but I think I'm swallowing too many pills as it is (for me).

Thank in advance...
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IGF-2 and FREE TEST is a GREAT stack. It is also a NATURAL stack, so there is nothing to "do after this cycle" (and referring to it as a "cycle" is misleading and inaccurate).

Depending on how long you are planning on using these products, have a two or four week break after using for four or eight weeks respectively. For the best effects and results from the stack, you're better off using it for ~8 weeks.

You're 170 pounds - make sure that you dose correctly and optimally (your IGF-2 dosing is only half of what it should be). See YOUR optimal dosing/timing for Applied Nutriceuticals products re best effects below:

IGF-2
Training Days
Dose 1 - 3 caps first thing
Dose 2 - 3 caps 40 min pre-training
Dose 3 - 2 caps pre-bed
Non-Training Days (you can use this dosing if you train first thing or close to)
Dose 1 - 4 caps first thing
Dose 2 - 4 caps pre-bed

FREE TEST
Dose - 4 caps first thing

It's not that many pills, but you don't need to add anything to it, no. However, if you want more help re endurance, then I recommend adding in Drive - will definitely make the stack better than ever, and I can attest to this from personal experience (Drive/IGF-2/FREE TEST is one of the best - if not the best - stacks I have used re endurance boosting and muscle gains).

~Rosie~
 
Thanks Rosie. Yeah, I meant to put 8 pills of IGF-2 daily. And thanks for the language correction. :-) I'll think about the DRIVE.
 
OCycle said:
Thanks Rosie. Yeah, I meant to put 8 pills of IGF-2 daily. And thanks for the language correction. :-) I'll think about the DRIVE.
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No worries :) Let me know how it goes if you do decide to add it in.

~Rosie~
 
I actually have 1.5 bottles of Millenium's Cordegyn5. Although not identical to DRIVE, it appears to be very similar. I'll add that in tomorrow as well.
 
OCycle said:
I actually have 1.5 bottles of Millenium's Cordegyn5. Although not identical to DRIVE, it appears to be very similar. I'll add that in tomorrow as well.
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It's an "endurance"/"oxygen" product, similar to Drive but not. I personally prefer Drive - nothing gives me the endurance benefits quite like Drive. The next closest product for me would be Cre-02.

~Rosie~
 
Hey Rosie, 2 weeks down and starting to feel this stuff. Noticing an increase in drive on hard efforts and muscles feel a bit more snappy on accelerations. I'm dropping a bit more BF...didn't have much to start with though.

My belly doesn't like the cordyceps for some reason. So it's just IGF-2, Free Test and Carnage (beta-alanine) for now.
 
OCycle said:
Hey Rosie, 2 weeks down and starting to feel this stuff. Noticing an increase in drive on hard efforts and muscles feel a bit more snappy on accelerations. I'm dropping a bit more BF...didn't have much to start with though.

My belly doesn't like the cordyceps for some reason. So it's just IGF-2, Free Test and Carnage (beta-alanine) for now.
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Cool :)

If you're having stomach issues, it's probably not the Cordyceps, but highly likely the Forslean causing those issues, as it's a common side effect for many people.

~Rosie~
 
Hey Rosie,

So my local place was out of IGF-2 and I couldn't get any in time to keep my program going. So I opted for HGHUP for days 31-60. I'm continuing on the FREE TEST with 4 capsule in the morning. Should I follow the 3 pills in the AM and 2pills in the PM that's on the bottle?
 
OCycle said:
Hey Rosie,

So my local place was out of IGF-2 and I couldn't get any in time to keep my program going. So I opted for HGHUP for days 31-60. I'm continuing on the FREE TEST with 4 capsule in the morning. Should I follow the 3 pills in the AM and 2pills in the PM that's on the bottle?
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Re HGHup, you can do 3 caps first thing and 2 caps pre-bed, or you can dose all 5 caps pre-bed - your choice.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie hit it spot on. that would be a great stack for you. and drive gives you the endurance of a stim but without the jitters/crash and its stim free.
 
The switch to HGHUP has been for the better I think. I'm definitely getting a deeper sleep at night. And, hardness and general feeling of strength is back that I felt for weeks 2-3 on IGF2. (it faded at the end of week 3 and 4) Also, I like it better to take the 4 FREE TEST in the AM and then the 5 HGHUP at night. I take a multi-v, beta alanine and fish oil as well. I prefer to break that stuff up so I'm not gobbling tons of pills at each dose time.

So far...so good!!!
 
emiliozapata said:
I was very interested in some of these products but just can't get past the empty stomach thing (drive, IGF 2 etc.)
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Can I ask why the issue with dosing on an empty stomach?


OCycle said:
The switch to HGHUP has been for the better I think. I'm definitely getting a deeper sleep at night. And, hardness and general feeling of strength is back that I felt for weeks 2-3 on IGF2. (it faded at the end of week 3 and 4) Also, I like it better to take the 4 FREE TEST in the AM and then the 5 HGHUP at night. I take a multi-v, beta alanine and fish oil as well. I prefer to break that stuff up so I'm not gobbling tons of pills at each dose time.

So far...so good!!!
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Glad that you're continuing to enjoy your stack :)

~Rosie~
 
emiliozapata said:
I was very interested in some of these products but just can't get past the empty stomach thing (drive, IGF 2 etc.)
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It's easy to get around. Like taking your first dose right when you wake up and by the time you've had a chance to make breakfast, shower, etc the product will have fully absorbed then.
 
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