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Based on studies with normal men using steroids, 100iu HCG administered everyday was enough to preserve full testicular function and ITT levels, without causing desensitization typically associated with higher doses of hCG. (2) It is important that low-dose hCG is started before testicular sensitivity is reduced, which appears to rapidly manifest within the first 2-3 weeks of steroid use. Also, it’s important to discontinue the hCG before you start Post-Cycle-Therapy so your leydig cells are given a chance to re-sensitize to your body’s own LH production. (To help further enhance testicular sensitivity, the dietary supplement Toco-8 may be used)

Based off the above information, an optimal dose of hCG during the cycle would be 250iu every 4 days, or as a less desirable alternative, once a week shot of 500iu. Keep in mind, that the half-life of hCG is 3-4 days, while the half-life of LH is only 1-2 hours. Considering this difference in excretion time, it is best to space each dose of hCG at least 4 days apart for the optimal “peak and valley” replication. However, going more than 7 days between each hCG shot may promote increase the rate of desensitization from lack of LH or hCG stimulation.

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I've never personally used HCG. Always wanted to . I see that you inject it. What about the oral stuff. Invalid Link Removed
Does this work the same way? Or is the inject kind soley for the purpose being suggested.
 
JoHNnyNuTZ said:
I've never personally used HCG. Always wanted to . I see that you inject it. What about the oral stuff. Invalid Link Removed
Does this work the same way? Or is the inject kind soley for the purpose being suggested.
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Just run the hcg as directed above with subcutaneous injections, you use such a tiny needle its painless.
 
Oh so that is just the solutionon. DO I need something else with it(bac water) not sure what that is but remember reading something about it. Or would I draw directly from the container?
 
JoHNnyNuTZ said:
Oh so that is just the solutionon. DO I need something else with it(bac water) not sure what that is but remember reading something about it. Or would I draw directly from the container?
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Usually if you find a solid supplier you will get everything you need, but you do need to dilute it to a proper concentration.
 
A question:
Andriol (oral test undec) had minimal effects from what I read, what would make a DHEA product based on Andriol delivery system more effective ?
 
kadox said:
A question:
Andriol (oral test undec) had minimal effects from what I read, what would make a DHEA product based on Andriol delivery system more effective ?
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We need Eric or Patrick for this one.
 
kadox said:
A question:
Andriol (oral test undec) had minimal effects from what I read, what would make a DHEA product based on Andriol delivery system more effective ?
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Because it isn't based entirely on Andriol delivery, there is much more to it. The logs have been out for some time on AH and AL imo the delivery system has proven itself as the logs demonstrate its effectiveness.
 
ryansm said:
Because it isn't based entirely on Andriol delivery, there is much more to it. The logs have been out for some time on AH and AL imo the delivery system has proven itself as the logs demonstrate its effectiveness.
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Great insight Ryan, thanks for commenting. It leads me to wonder if the 7 keto topical products and Androlean are equal on some terms...
 
rulk22 said:
Great insight Ryan, thanks for commenting. It leads me to wonder if the 7 keto topical products and Androlean are equal on some terms...
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Blood work will show this and Eric is getting extensive labs done on his run so it will be interesting to see.
 
Please refer to this thread for an update on Andromass: Invalid Link Removed
 
I'm not cancelling my order. Something worthwhile is worth waiting for. Keep doing what you're doing Eric- making it right. Thanks for the update.
 
Oldnsweaty said:
I'm not cancelling my order. Something worthwhile is worth waiting for. Keep doing what you're doing Eric- making it right. Thanks for the update.
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It's very much appreciated. I'm still waiting for second batch androhard/androlean which has been pushed back due to the AM delay
 
I hope it helps to hear from Eric himself. Like I have e been saying though, we are at the point of finishing these up, no longer an issue with getting unsatisfactory raws and having to wait another 6 weeks.
 
ryansm said:
I hope it helps to hear from Eric himself. Like I have e been saying though, we are at the point of finishing these up, no longer an issue with getting unsatisfactory raws and having to wait another 6 weeks.
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Yep, QC standards have either been met or exceeded and its now the capping and boxing/packaging process. Im sure once these get in the hands of consumers and the feedback from the logs come rolling in, this will be mostly forgotten.
 
From Eric:

AndroMass has been successfully softgelled. We will be able to fulfill all back orders when it arrives to us. They are putting it into drying today.

It will be shipped to us on Monday, so the expected arrival date to our facility is Wednesday the 11th. Orders will begin shipping the day it arrives.

The only issue we foresee is not having AndroHard and AndroLean available to ship with AndroMass orders. We are willing to split the order and ship the AndroMass separately if requested. In fact, for guys that where planning on running an AndroMass + Hard/Lean stack we have been recommending 4x2 on the AndroMass ALONE for 21 days and then switching to the Lean/Hard ALONE and finishing the cycle on 4x2.

This would allow for cutting towards the end of the cycle which is what we recommend anyway.

-Eric
 
kadox said:
A question:
Andriol (oral test undec) had minimal effects from what I read, what would make a DHEA product based on Andriol delivery system more effective ?
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IMO, it's very different when talking about pro-hormone conversions compared to trying to make testosterone orally bioavailable.
 
Rodja said:
From Eric:

AndroMass has been successfully softgelled. We will be able to fulfill all back orders when it arrives to us. They are putting it into drying today.

It will be shipped to us on Monday, so the expected arrival date to our facility is Wednesday the 11th. Orders will begin shipping the day it arrives.

The only issue we foresee is not having AndroHard and AndroLean available to ship with AndroMass orders. We are willing to split the order and ship the AndroMass separately if requested. In fact, for guys that where planning on running an AndroMass + Hard/Lean stack we have been recommending 4x2 on the AndroMass ALONE for 21 days and then switching to the Lean/Hard ALONE and finishing the cycle on 4x2.

This would allow for cutting towards the end of the cycle which is what we recommend anyway.

-Eric
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As soon as we receive the AM it will ship out
 
ryansm said:
As of now the 23rd, since AM is through capping then AL/AH will start capping now
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I'm hoping for sooner. Seriously, this pre-summer cut is being post-poned because my lean/hard aren't here yet :(
 
Im very disappointed, I was convinced by PP to run androlean instead of 7-spray and even asked to log it which I agreed, ordered it not knowing it wasn't in stock, then after I emailed 2 weeks later to customer service I got some BS about some "inventory system malfunction" and was then told early may, now PP is saying May 23rd, now since I have noticed a aproximate 100% fail rate on meeting any dates I'm just going to cancel my order and pick something up that I can actually get, after a while, although the excuses seam legit, they get tired and old
 
If we ordered AndroLean back when it was in stock, but were sill waiting for AndroMass to arrive, will it ship out on the 16th or 23rd?
 
jaydollars said:
Im very disappointed, I was convinced by PP to run androlean instead of 7-spray and even asked to log it which I agreed, ordered it not knowing it wasn't in stock, then after I emailed 2 weeks later to customer service I got some BS about some "inventory system malfunction" and was then told early may, now PP is saying May 23rd, now since I have noticed a aproximate 100% fail rate on meeting any dates I'm just going to cancel my order and pick something up that I can actually get, after a while, although the excuses seam legit, they get tired and old
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Sorry to hear this and we hope you give us a shot in the future
 
HereToStudy said:
Yeah I will say that does sound to be the worst.
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try being sober eating clean while you're friends are hitting the B and eating whatever they want.

tellin you ' brah , you should eat some of these peanut butter M&Ms' ( M&ms are my favorite lol )

at least using the leangains im not hungry ever during the fed state, eating tons of spaghetti and fruit
 
soontobbeast said:
try being sober eating clean while you're friends are hitting the B and eating whatever they want.

tellin you ' brah , you should eat some of these peanut butter M&Ms' ( M&ms are my favorite lol )

at least using the leangains im not hungry ever during the fed state, eating tons of spaghetti and fruit
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Fed state....haven't heard that term be used in awhile. It makes me miss Avant even more.
 
Rodja said:
Fed state....haven't heard that term be used in awhile. It makes me miss Avant even more.
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ya know...I never did quite understand the leptigen series...but its what I just thought of seeing that post.

I've been wondering what happened to the AL guys too...
 
im waiting for the '' we're sorry but something happened and its gonna be two more weeks'' post

lol
 
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