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PES is testing a new Anabolic...Details inside

MidwestBeast said:
I'm so excited to see the actual write-up whenever that time comes down the road. I really enjoy getting to understand what makes the product tick and how it works.

I have enough trust in PES that I'm already willing to say I'll order as soon as you bring it to market.
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^^^^This:yup:
 
I actually took 2 caps of the AnaBeta-01 with my meal early this morning (well, still counts as a meal for yesterday, since it was before sleeping), to help with the nutrient repartitioning - it does such a GREAT job in that area!

~Rosie~
 
MidwestBeast said:
I'm so excited to see the actual write-up whenever that time comes down the road. I really enjoy getting to understand what makes the product tick and how it works.

I have enough trust in PES that I'm already willing to say I'll order as soon as you bring it to market.
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Its going to be a very detailed writeup. SO detailed that I decided that the first two paragraphs will just be general info for the quick readers, and then it will go into the science for the interested ones
 
Are we EVER gunna see a negative review about this stuff? haha then I wouldn't feel so bad about having to wait for the release :(
 
nattydisaster said:
Works fast!
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Yeppers :yup:


ICJLM said:
Are we EVER gunna see a negative review about this stuff? haha then I wouldn't feel so bad about having to wait for the release :(
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Those who have given and are reviewing AnaBeta-01 are pretty honest about their experiences with products and will no doubt be the same with this. Positive and negative effects, pros and cons - all will be given by the beta testers.

~Rosie~
 
Superpippo said:
hope it will not cost much,and the size of the bottle to be at least 120 cps (4 caps x 30 days)...
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Hypothetically, if it was one of the 120 cap bottles and was officially classed as a glucose disposal agent (obviously the reviews imply it has strong nutrient partitioning effects but it may not be classified as this necessarily) then there is quite a big gap in the UK for it.

Prices from the same retailer and the only one that currently stocks Need 2 Slin and Slin Sane as far as I am aware.

Need 2 Slin- 120 caps £58.99

Slin Sane- 60 caps £25.99, 120 caps therefore £51.98

Glycobol- 120 caps £35.99

LG Slin- 120 caps £31.99

P-Slin- 30 caps £31.99, 120 caps therefore £127.96
 
bdcc said:
Hypothetically, if it was one of the 120 cap bottles and was officially classed as a glucose disposal agent (obviously the reviews imply it has strong nutrient partitioning effects but it may not be classified as this necessarily) then there is quite a big gap in the UK for it.

Prices from the same retailer and the only one that currently stocks Need 2 Slin and Slin Sane as far as I am aware.

Need 2 Slin- 120 caps £58.99

Slin Sane- 60 caps £25.99, 120 caps therefore £51.98

Glycobol- 120 caps £35.99

LG Slin- 120 caps £31.99

P-Slin- 30 caps £31.99, 120 caps therefore £127.96
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Fyi.... It looks to me like genomyx possibly bought the rights to pslin... Pslin is running out of stock over here as "pslin" in multiple shops and the ingredient profile and mg amount is exactly the same in slin sane and pslin.... So also to be fair that is one strong glucose disposal agent and most won't even be able to tolerate taking 4 times a day without going hypo....

Either way AnaBeta is sounding to have even stronger effects on a daily basis alongside thermo effects etc that aren't seen in any other product in that category so who knows if it can even be wedged into that group just yet.... Man I can't wait to see the write up...

Knowing PES's rep though I'm sure it still be priced reasonably with frequent ridiculous sales for products that obviously work (ie Erase)
 
poopypants said:
Fyi.... It looks to me like genomyx possibly bought the rights to pslin... Pslin is running out of stock over here as "pslin" in multiple shops and the ingredient profile and mg amount is exactly the same in slin sane and pslin.... So also to be fair that is one strong glucose disposal agent and most won't even be able to tolerate taking 4 times a day without going hypo....

Either way AnaBeta is sounding to have even stronger effects on a daily basis alongside thermo effects etc that aren't seen in any other product in that category so who knows if it can even be wedged into that group just yet.... Man I can't wait to see the write up...

Knowing PES's rep though I'm sure it still be priced reasonably with frequent ridiculous sales for products that obviously work (ie Erase)
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Someone more in the know can chime in on this but I remember a thread when Slin Sane came out and USP labs commented on it implying that the difference in extracts made the two products like night and day.
 
nattydisaster said:
It will be 120 caps. Some people get great effects off of just 3 per day, but it seems everyone reacts awesome to 4. We want to allow everyone to get the optimal dose for a month supply
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lol I was looking on my bottle to see if there was a number of caps written on it.

glad you said this because I was ready to count them out, haha
 
AndrewNico said:
lol I was looking on my bottle to see if there was a number of caps written on it.

glad you said this because I was ready to count them out, haha
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You guys got bottles? (Not that I mind the plastic bags of red goodies I had) :11:
 
PES stepped it up for us beta's

betas as in testers not beta individuals . . . because we're all alpha

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Has the op been updated with all the new logs? Do all beta testers even have logs? Supposed to, right?

I know I'll def log mine since I can't wait to compare it to everything else I've run.... :evil:
 
unforunately I have to buy PES products from the UK and the prices are MUUUUUUUUUUUUCH higher than here at Nutra...you pay PES stuff about 20$,in UK i pay 32£ per bottle,double the price :( Hope anabeta won't be expensive,I'll buy a lot of bottles :)
 
bdcc said:
Hypothetically, if it was one of the 120 cap bottles and was officially classed as a glucose disposal agent (obviously the reviews imply it has strong nutrient partitioning effects but it may not be classified as this necessarily) then there is quite a big gap in the UK for it.

Prices from the same retailer and the only one that currently stocks Need 2 Slin and Slin Sane as far as I am aware.

Need 2 Slin- 120 caps £58.99

Slin Sane- 60 caps £25.99, 120 caps therefore £51.98

Glycobol- 120 caps £35.99

LG Slin- 120 caps £31.99

P-Slin- 30 caps £31.99, 120 caps therefore £127.96
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Superpippo said:
unforunately I have to buy PES products from the UK and the prices are MUUUUUUUUUUUUCH higher than here at Nutra...you pay PES stuff about 20$,in UK i pay 32£ per bottle,double the price :( Hope anabeta won't be expensive,I'll buy a lot of bottles :)
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I agree with you 100%, nobody wants to pay over the odds. If you look at the average price point of PES supplements compared to rivals and look at the (possible) competition for this product it appears there would be a hole in the market in the UK.

From my own perspective, reading the logs so far and comparing it to the list above, the price of AnaBeta-01 would have to be astronomical for people to not want it.

Everyone judges for themselves, obviously. I for one am keen to try the beta version and if I get results similar to those being described would be happy to put in an order during the presale.
 
Superpippo said:
unforunately I have to buy PES products from the UK and the prices are MUUUUUUUUUUUUCH higher than here at Nutra...you pay PES stuff about 20$,in UK i pay 32£ per bottle,double the price :( Hope anabeta won't be expensive,I'll buy a lot of bottles :)
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Damn...we have no control over UK pricing but I will definitely inquire about it be sold lower
 
Superpippo is definitely right...prices in uk are much higher. I know about shipping cost but it doesn't justify to double the price

Natty. Could you please give a private email...a friend who has a shop in UE would like to ask you something. Thanks.
 
nattydisaster said:
Damn...we have no control over UK pricing but I will definitely inquire about it be sold lower
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Superpippo said:
wow,it would be great natty...the prices I wrote are from predatornutrition...
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I couldn't agree more, the prices compared to US sites are rediculous :( I hate it every time when my credit card bill hits me :tragedy:

//CC
 
ConcreteConny said:
I couldn't agree more, the prices compared to US sites are rediculous :( I hate it every time when my credit card bill hits me :tragedy:

//CC
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Which really pains us to see. I know shipping large cases over there are a bit expensive, but wouldn't double the price. I am sorry for my friends speaking the kings english.
 
To the PES guys, I wouldn't worry too much about the UK prices from these posts alone. If you can do something to bring it down- great, but these do not paint a fair picture.

PES Erase at generic UK retailer: £29.99
PES Erase at Nutraplanet: $29.99

PES Shift at generic UK retailer: £19.99
PES Shift at Nutraplanet: $22.99

PES Alpha T2 at generic UK retailer (including 'free' calipers): £32.99
PES Alpha T2 at Nutraplanet: £29.99

So, add them all up and the $ and £ prices are equivalent. Anything cheaper from the conversion rate is cancelled out with shipping.

About as much as you can expect when you are importing from the other side of the world. :)
 
Another update from an original tester today who has been taking it for 4+ weeks

this seems to have some serotonin effects...mood is AMAZING today. Took a cap on an empty stomach and ate 2 hours later....the effect got BIGGER, not to mention every muscle in my body (yes the wank).

Good stuff Natty. I added 15 pounds on my bench last night and I'm 2 months past PCT.....passed.....and I'm sure I could have put more on but I decided not to (safety).
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Interesting effect on the empty stomach dose...maybe some current testers want to try this with 1-2 doses this week
 
nattydisaster said:
Interesting effect on the empty stomach dose...maybe some current testers want to try this with 1-2 doses this week
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Do the guys here have their pre-training dose on an empty stomach? I know I did, not eating until post-training (although sometimes I dose a single cap with my post-training meal as well).

~Rosie~
 
Im really excited to run this, I hope I explode lol
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
Do the guys here have their pre-training dose on an empty stomach? I know I did, not eating until post-training (although sometimes I dose a single cap with my post-training meal as well).

~Rosie~
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Yeah I would be happy to have an answer to this too? I believe the instruction are to be taken before the workout with a meal?? But can it also be taken on an empty stomach? Since my focus is cutting I tend to only have protein or BCAAs before a meal? What are the reccomendations here from PES?

Mr.50
 
Mr.50 said:
Yeah I would be happy to have an answer to this too? I believe the instruction are to be taken before the workout with a meal?? But can it also be taken on an empty stomach? Since my focus is cutting I tend to only have protein or BCAAs before a meal? What are the reccomendations here from PES?

Mr.50
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I feel that the preworkout dose can be taking with or without food, empty stomach or food.

I would never suggest making a large diet change like when you eat for a supplement, so keep your diet as is

As for the other doses, take 1 with your post workout meal or shake, 1 with a meal, and 1 with another meal
 
Mr.50 said:
Yeah I would be happy to have an answer to this too? I believe the instruction are to be taken before the workout with a meal?? But can it also be taken on an empty stomach? Since my focus is cutting I tend to only have protein or BCAAs before a meal? What are the reccomendations here from PES?

Mr.50
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I never train after eating (unless it is a second session later in the day, when I've had a few meals in me), so anything pre-training is going to be on an empty stomach.

I used the AnaBeta-01 on an empty stomach pre-training, and also sometimes after training.

From personal experience, I wouldn't recommend using AnaBeta-01 if you're trying to cut.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
I never train after eating (unless it is a second session later in the day, when I've had a few meals in me), so anything pre-training is going to be on an empty stomach.

I used the AnaBeta-01 on an empty stomach pre-training, and also sometimes after training.

From personal experience, I wouldn't recommend using AnaBeta-01 if you're trying to cut.

~Rosie~
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Rosie,

Is that recommendation because of the appetite increase or for another reason? I really should have said "significant recomp" then true cut. Its just that I have no need to add more mass at this point for my goals.

Mr.50
 
Mr.50 said:
Rosie,

Is that recommendation because of the appetite increase or for another reason? I really should have said "significant recomp" then true cut. Its just that I have no need to add more mass at this point for my goals.

Mr.50
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AnaBeta is perfect for recomp, performance enhancment, etc.
 
Mr.50 said:
Rosie,

Is that recommendation because of the appetite increase or for another reason? I really should have said "significant recomp" then true cut. Its just that I have no need to add more mass at this point for my goals.

Mr.50
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Primarily from the ridiculously excessive increase in appetite. "Significant recomp" will occur with the AnaBeta-01, with lean mass increased for sure, coupled with body composition maintenance or a slight gain though (so definitely watch nutrition).


nattydisaster said:
AnaBeta is perfect for recomp, performance enhancment, etc.
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^^This.

~Rosie~
 
This has probably been asked a thousand times, but when are you going to release this? :)
 
AtomicFox said:
This has probably been asked a thousand times, but when are you going to release this? :)
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There is no definite date yet.

~Rosie~
 
Ok thank you for responding though :)
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
Primarily from the ridiculously excessive increase in appetite. "Significant recomp" will occur with the AnaBeta-01, with lean mass increased for sure, coupled with body composition maintenance or a slight gain though (so definitely watch nutrition).




^^This.

~Rosie~
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I really like the sound of that. It's this time of year when I'm usually testing different compounds to achieve that exact goal.
 
Rahl said:
I really like the sound of that. It's this time of year when I'm usually testing different compounds to achieve that exact goal.
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I agree with Rahl!!....release this already, ya Bahhh-stads!!**
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**I believe that was the sub text of what Rahl was saying in his post.
Any negs should evenly be distributed. :11:
 
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